Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

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Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by The Cube » 03 Apr 2012 21:37

On my recent visits to other clubs' boards, I keep coming across ignorant statements about our club's lack of history. Well, for a start what were any of their clubs doing in the 1871/72 season? I'm going to show you where Reading FC fit into the town, and in this part what the Purple Turtle has to do with it.

Of course this starts with the formation of the club. Despite extensive research I've not identified the precise date, but it was obviously in late 1871 or early 1872. So where did it take place? Well, there are two realistic possibilities. Standard accounts say at the Bridge Street Rooms, but there are no references from the time that even mention such a place. Supposedly the rooms were part of a house on the brewery site, but at that date that house was still a family home. The house no longer exists, but this is where it was:


Or at least you would be able to see where it was, if someone hadn't built House of Fraser in front of the site.

The building was set back some way from Bridge Street. Here's an 1861 drawing showing the layout, and it would be to the right of the big chimney:


Now that's one possible location for the formation of the club, but I have a preferred alternative. The earliest mention I've seen of the inaugural meeting comes from an AGM in 1879, where the Club President talks about it taking place in a small room in Gun Street. That's a small street in a conservation area so almost all the buildings still there now were also there at the time. And there is an obvious candidate - the prime movers at that meeting were involved with St Mary's Church, and the church had a reading room across the street. What's more that reading room was definitely also used for other later club meetings. So I think that the club was actually formed here:


Actually it's the building on the left - 10 Gun Street. The first floor is still laid out as one room, and quite possibly the actual site.


In recent years, the building was used by the Community Health Council, and since they left has occasionally been used for public art projects (including Gallery 10, which is why it says G10 on the front in that photo). It seems to have been looking for a new tenant for some time, though, if anyone is interested.


In part 2 - the first game, and why we need to bomb the swimming baths.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Friday's Legacy » 03 Apr 2012 21:44

This is worthy of a sticky.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Whore Jackie » 03 Apr 2012 21:48

Nice thread The Cube. I presume the building to the left of House of Fraser (and to the right of Zero Degrees), now used by Hammerson IIRC, has been ruled out as the Bridge Street Rooms?

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by anR » 03 Apr 2012 22:05

So what of the rumours that RFC were formed during a public meeting in what is now Yates'? Have you found this to be untrue?

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by Friday's Legacy » 03 Apr 2012 22:18

http://thebeautifulhistory.wordpress.com/clubs/reading/

Reading Football Club was formed in 1871, when the inaugural meeting of the club was held at the Bridge Street Rooms under the chairmanship of Mr J E Sydenham, who later became the first Honorary Secretary of the club. In those days Reading had already had competition from Earley FC and the Reading Hornets. The latter was to amalgamate with Reading in 1877. The club was further strengthened in 1889 when Earley FC joined them.

The early matches were played at Reading Recreation Ground, nothing more than an unenclosed area with no facilities. Among the opposition Reading entertained here were Henley, Marlow, Wycombe and Swifts. The ground was just north-east of the town centre and was known locally as King’s Meadow. Before moving to Coley Park in 1882, Reading fulfilled its fixtures at Reading Cricket Ground, pleasantly located next to the river Thames. Coley Park was the first enclosed venue for the club, yet lacking facilities of note. Therefore, in 1890 Reading moved on to the Caversham Cricket Ground, yet another unfavourable venue, liable to flooding. On top of that, access was difficult since the bulk of support came from the town for which an awkward ferry trip had to be made to cross the Thames. One may now wonder why they moved there in the first place.

Anyway, in 1896, it was decided that yet another relocation was desirable. A lease of four acres at a former gravel pit at Elm Park was offered. It was to be their home until 1998. Reading now play at the 25,000 capacity Madejski Stadium on the outskirts of the town. Outsiders please note – it’s the Madejski Stadium, not the Madjeski Stadium!

The team’s colours have always been blue and white, but this has taken many forms throughout the years. Narrow hoops were in favour for the first twenty-four years , before dark blue and white stripes were introduced in 1895. The wonderful broad hoops appeared for the first time just before the Second World War. Reading have also experimented with white shorts and blue shorts and with an all-sky blue strip, neither of which brought any fortune. The hoops returned much to the pleasure of the fans. Common myth says that Reading share with Preston one singular honour – because they are a Royal Borough, and because Preston did the first Double all those many years ago, both have the right, never actually used, of wearing their first colours whenever they wish, even if it means the home team have to change.

When Huntley and Palmer took over the Berkshire County Cricket ground opposite Elm Park, Reading became known as The Biscuitmen or Biscuiteers. The Huntley & Palmer biscuit factory was the chief industry in the town. The nickname stuck until H&P left in 1974. Today the club are referred to as

The Royals, denoting the connection with Royal Berkshire.

Reading’s first emblem depicted five maidens’ heads on a blue shield, in fact the pre-1953 arms, granted in 1566. These arms were based on the Common Seal of the town, which was in use as early as 1365. In this seal however, the heads are those of men, the middle one wearing a Saxon crown, the other heads being uncrowned, probably representing burgesses, leading citizens of the medieval Borough and usually members of the town council. It has been suggested that the central head represents Edward I, King of the West Saxons from 975 till 978. He was assassinated at the instigation of his stepmother, Queen Elfthryth, in order that her son, Ethelred the Unready, could occupy the throne.

In expiation of her crime, Elfthryth founded a nunnery in Reading, perhaps on the site of St. Mary’s Church. Anyway, when Reading were granted arms in 1566 during the reign of Elizabeth I, for reasons obscured by clouds the heads were changed to those of females, one being a queen’s head.

Unfortunately this breathtaking emblem was never worn on shirts but only used on the programme cover in the late 40’s and early 50’s. Club blazers from the late 50’s and 60’s era show an embroidered version of Reading’s full arms, now including the two supporting white rams with golden horns and hooves, representing the early wool trade of Reading. The bishop’s mitre in the crest commemorates the once magnificient Reading Abbey. Incidentally, the motto ‘A Deo et Regina’ means ‘From God and the Queen’.

A different badge was introduced in the mid 70’s and shows elm trees and the river Thames, on which Reading is situated while a third similar version commemorated 100 years of football at Elm Park in 1996.

The current emblem was introduced at the beginning of the 1998/99 season, coinciding with the move to the majestic Madejski Stadium. The crown represents the royal connection with Berkshire and the lion represents the famous ‘Forbury Lion’, a statue in the Forbury Gardens in Reading.

Our first badge:



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And now:



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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Elliott » 03 Apr 2012 22:28

The first match I believe was against Reading School's 1st XI at King's Meadow?

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Elliott » 03 Apr 2012 22:29

Elliott The first match I believe was against Reading School's 1st XI at King's Meadow?


Oh and the score was 0-0 :lol:

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by The Cube » 03 Apr 2012 22:40

Whore Jackie Nice thread The Cube. I presume the building to the left of House of Fraser (and to the right of Zero Degrees), now used by Hammerson IIRC, has been ruled out as the Bridge Street Rooms?

If you mean 19 Bridge Street on the south side of the canal, then it's definitely out, although I can't remember exactly why I am 100% certain of this. It often gets confused with the building that I was actually talking about.

anR So what of the rumours that RFC were formed during a public meeting in what is now Yates'? Have you found this to be untrue?

Can't say that I've ever heard those rumours. However, Yates' is in the old Post Office, which was built on the site of the Queens Hotel, which was used as the club rooms in the early years. So it was used before and after games, plus for later meetings. It will get mentions later in this series.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by anR » 03 Apr 2012 23:17

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anR So what of the rumours that RFC were formed during a public meeting in what is now Yates'? Have you found this to be untrue?

Can't say that I've ever heard those rumours. However, Yates' is in the old Post Office, which was built on the site of the Queens Hotel, which was used as the club rooms in the early years. So it was used before and after games, plus for later meetings. It will get mentions later in this series.


I swear I heard from somewhere that it was formed on Christmas Day 1871 around those buildings, does that make sense?

Interesting thread.


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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 04 Apr 2012 07:06

No one has ever seen Reading as a historic or big club as we have been in the shadows of the London and Southern clubs for years playing our football the lower leagues.

Since our move to the Mad Stad in the 1998 / 99 season we have seen our fortunes turn round thanks largely to one man Sir John Madejski.

As a club we have gone from strength to strength over the last 14 years, rewarding the fans with some memorable moments, always competing with the famous or should I say not so famous any more.

• 106 points and champions
• Reading in the top league for the first time.
• Back to back seasons in the FA Cup Quarter Finals.

These are historic and memorable moments for any Reading fan.

I for one want more of it, so onwards and upwards.

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by Wimb » 04 Apr 2012 07:07

The Real Sandhurst Royal No one has ever seen Reading as a historic or big club as we have been in the shadows of the London and Southern clubs for years playing our football the lower leagues.

Since our move to the Mad Stad in the 1998 / 99 season we have seen our fortunes turn round thanks largely to one man Sir John Madejski.

As a club we have gone from strength to strength over the last 14 years, rewarding the fans with some memorable moments, always competing with the famous or should I say not so famous any more.

• 106 points and champions
• Reading in the top league for the first time.
• Back to back seasons in the FA Cup Quarter Finals.

These are historic and memorable moments for any Reading fan.

I for one want more of it, so onwards and upwards.


Not to mention 3 play-off finals under SJM and two League Cup quarter-finals as well.

and an auto-windscreens shield semi-final.....

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Rex » 04 Apr 2012 07:20

There are some excellent photos of Reading players in The Star in Pangbourne. Handlebar moustaches galore.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Gordons Cumming » 04 Apr 2012 07:35

When they say lack of history is it to do with historical football success on the pitch?

FA & league Cup finals, Division one champions, long periods in the top level, European success?

This is my understanding..................we are found wanting in these areas.


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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Dare to Dr£am » 04 Apr 2012 07:45

Gordons Cumming When they say lack of history is it to do with historical football success on the pitch?

FA & league Cup finals, Division one champions, long periods in the top level, European success?

This is my understanding..................we are found wanting in these areas.


Yes, otherwise we are one of the oldest clubs in the Football League, second or third?

Also on the point of the FA Cup, our best run in that competition was a semi-final against Cardiff City in 1947 was it? More recently two 1/4 finals (back to back), and as mentioned above a couple of League Cup semi's not long ago as well.

Not bad really for a club that spent much of it's time in the third tier of English football and has had it's best years over the last 18 years.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Gordons Cumming » 04 Apr 2012 07:50

League cup semi's? :shock:

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Einstein agogo » 04 Apr 2012 08:00

Gordons Cumming When they say lack of history is it to do with historical football success on the pitch?

FA & league Cup finals, Division one champions, long periods in the top level, European success?

This is my understanding..................we are found wanting in these areas.


who gives a toss?
man utd came from , nowhere , liverpool came from nowhere... they could be league 2 regulars with Preston , Sheff Wed , Accrington etc. (who all have MORE history) in 10 years time and we could be winning the FA cup every other year... who knows? Look at Wigan if you want a team without history... they're still in the Prem though !

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by under the tin » 04 Apr 2012 08:43

Einstein agogo
Gordons Cumming When they say lack of history is it to do with historical football success on the pitch?

FA & league Cup finals, Division one champions, long periods in the top level, European success?

This is my understanding..................we are found wanting in these areas.


who gives a toss?
man utd came from , nowhere , liverpool came from nowhere... they could be league 2 regulars with Preston , Sheff Wed , Accrington etc. (who all have MORE history) in 10 years time and we could be winning the FA cup every other year... who knows? Look at Wigan if you want a team without history... they're still in the Prem though !


Quite right.
Liverpool, particularly, were very much the poor relations on Merseyside until Shankly dragged then out of D2 in the 1960's
They never looked back. Maybe that can be us, too.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by Gordons Cumming » 04 Apr 2012 09:09

under the tin

Quite right.
Liverpool, particularly, were very much the poor relations on Merseyside until Shankly dragged then out of D2 in the 1960's
They never looked back. Maybe that can be us, too.


:shock:

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by Mr Angry » 04 Apr 2012 09:15

I always thought that part of our "lack of history" was the fact that Reading, in common with a lot of Southern teams) didn't join the Football League for quite a long time after is started, unlike teams such as (and no, this isn't fishing!) Chelsea, who joined as soon as they formed in 1905.

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Re: Homes of Reading FC - illustrated guide (part 1)

by SpaceCruiser » 05 Apr 2012 16:08

Friday's Legacy Our first badge:



Then:



Then:



Then:



And now:



You missed out a badge, between the gash four colour stripey one and the reading arms. The three elms was inbetween those two.

Dare to Dr£am Also on the point of the FA Cup, our best run in that competition was a semi-final against Cardiff City in 1947 was it?


1927, actually.

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