Is "The Reading Way" over?

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Re: Is "The Reading Way" over?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 13 Mar 2013 13:24

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Royalclapper The thing about the 'old Reading way' (under SJM) is that he has a pretty good track record of managerial appointments. Sure, there have been a couple of stinkers, but overall they have been successful and key to our greatest achievements as a football club.

Even if AZ wants to pimp It all up a bit, he could do worse than to cast an eye over SJM's former managerial hit or miss list.


You raise a good point. Forgetting the financial aspects, SJM mostly made the correct managerial appointments. In relation to Wolves they are not in the shit because of sacking McCarthy with 13 games to go, they are in the shit because of subsequent managers they have employed. Like Blackburn!

Its all about getting the correct manager in. Rodgers failed because he was trying to change things too quickly and we can't be scared of trying to change our footballing philosophy again.

We need a blend of both, someone wanting the team to pass, but also someone willing to throw in the long channel ball as well.


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Re: Is "The Reading Way" over?

by Alexander Litvinenko » 13 Mar 2013 13:28

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Royalclapper The thing about the 'old Reading way' (under SJM) is that he has a pretty good track record of managerial appointments. Sure, there have been a couple of stinkers, but overall they have been successful and key to our greatest achievements as a football club.

Even if AZ wants to pimp It all up a bit, he could do worse than to cast an eye over SJM's former managerial hit or miss list.


You raise a good point. Forgetting the financial aspects, SJM mostly made the correct managerial appointments. In relation to Wolves they are not in the shit because of sacking McCarthy with 13 games to go, they are in the shit because of subsequent managers they have employed......


Just to pick up on this point and where Wolves went horribly wrong, was that at that stage of the season they couldn't actually employ a decent manager. They spoke to lots, but the vast majority were no-goods or has-beens not up to the job. The ones they did want to employ wouldn't take the job anyway because they thought Wolves were a basket-case definitely going down and that expectations of a quick return would be unreasonable - or - for most of them - they were only talking to them in order to secure better contract terms from their own club.

The delicious irony is that Brian McDermott talking to Wolves (or rather his agent talking to them) secured him significantly better contract terms from his employer at the time.

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Re: Good bye OLD Reading, hello NEW

by RoyalBlue » 13 Mar 2013 13:30

leon but it doesn't really say that does it? And if so why didn't the New Reading ie spending big (ish) , hot glamour club in the making kick off in the summer or transfer window?
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The person best placed to answer that is Brian McDermott.

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Re: Is "The Reading Way" over?

by Vision » 13 Mar 2013 13:36

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Royalclapper The thing about the 'old Reading way' (under SJM) is that he has a pretty good track record of managerial appointments. Sure, there have been a couple of stinkers, but overall they have been successful and key to our greatest achievements as a football club.

Even if AZ wants to pimp It all up a bit, he could do worse than to cast an eye over SJM's former managerial hit or miss list.


You raise a good point. Forgetting the financial aspects, SJM mostly made the correct managerial appointments. In relation to Wolves they are not in the shit because of sacking McCarthy with 13 games to go, they are in the shit because of subsequent managers they have employed. Like Blackburn!

Its all about getting the correct manager in. Rodgers failed because he was trying to change things too quickly and we can't be scared of trying to change our footballing philosophy again.

We need a blend of both, someone wanting the team to pass, but also someone willing to throw in the long channel ball as well.


But those managerial appointments were all managers with a similiar philosophy Pardew,Coppell and McD. Burns and Rodgers were much more possession orientated and didn't work.

It can be done though. McGhee's transformation of Reading was similiar to Martinez at Swansea. Problem is that was done in the lower divisions where there was bit more time and less financial rewards/losses at stake. McGhee's first two seasons were pretty mediocre but there was generally a feeling that we were onto something even if the results were a little patchy. It can be achieved with the right backing and patience from the board and to a lesser extent the fans but t's a big ask when the stakes and expectations have imho become so ridiculously high.

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Re: Is "The Reading Way" over?

by Still Hate Futcher! » 13 Mar 2013 13:39

Critic's of the so called 'Reading way' claim that it shows a lack of ambition when the only way to progress is to think, and spend, big.

While there's nothing wrong with having ambition and making money available for players, the problem is that it usually results in realism being tossed out of the window. There are only 20 places available in the Premier League and several dozen clubs with realistic ambitions to become an established Premier League club. Someone is gonna be disappointed.

Should we really sack every manager that fails to get us into, or keep us in, the Premier League? Why should we consistently finish higher than clubs like Leeds, Forest, Derby, Wolves etc, etc?


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New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sir Dodger Royal » 15 Mar 2013 10:07

Look the Reading Way is dead & buried. The last thing we need to do is bring in anyone as Manager who has had any dealings with RFC. It is now time for a New Dawn, A New Day & a New Way. Forget the past and look to the future.

Many know that SDR did not rate McDermott as a Premier League Manager and of course I was right. However he did an excellent job at his level which is either Division One or Championship. Reading now need a Strategy to move forward and adopt of style of football that is not McDermott's Hoof Ball.

Of course that will require changes throughout the Club so maybe it's time for Squeaky and the Madman to depart. DOF & old owners are not everyone's cup of tea and will impact on the quality of applicants. Time for change and the new owners must invest. The issue of course is that this will not happen over night and would take a minimum of at least 2/3 seasons. Will the Russians give the new man time? In view of the fact that they did not back RFC with Real Money this season then that is a key question?

If they have any sense then a Plan for the Future is essential. Running a football club is not rocket science but unfortunately most Chairman haven't a clue. Some run very successful businesses but fail miserably when it comes to running a football club. Listen to Sir Dodger you know it makes sense.

RFC require Real Strategy, Real Money and Real Action. Sort it and I mean soonnnnnnnnn Main man.

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by floyd__streete » 15 Mar 2013 10:12

Its a New Dawn
Its a New Day
Its a New Way
Forrrrrrrrr meeeee.....

And I'm feeling good
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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by floyd__streete » 15 Mar 2013 10:19

Apropos nothing much, isn’t it just impossible to sing the above without wanting to suddenly launch into the old Diet Coke advert ‘I Just Wana Make Love To You’ song?

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Binfield Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:01

this has been done to death on countless other threads

SDR - still a dinosaur and behind the timessssss

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Hampshire Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:05

.....and, Dodger, Brian never managed in Div One (although after the Brenda debacle, he saved us from being relegated to Div One).

About time you got you reallllllll factssssssss right.

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sir Dodger Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:08

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SDR said his level (McD) was either Championship or Division One.

Real Facts. Learn to readddddddddddd

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by reading_fan » 15 Mar 2013 11:12

SDR old boy! Haven't seen you for a couple of months while things were going ok, but now we're struggling a bit here you are!

That was almost complementary of you towards McDermott, are you feeling ok? Or given that's your first post for a while, you're just easing yourself back into to your usual negative diatribe?

Who does the main maannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn SDR want as the new manager? Give us your pearls of wisdom! Perhaps Gary Alexander could come in as a player/manager? We had to watch Cityyyyyyy flyyyyyyyyyy afterall!

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Hampshire Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:18

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Many know that SDR did not rate McDermott as a Premier League Manager and of course I was right. However he did an excellent job at his level which is either Division One or Championship.


You didn't rate Brian as a Championship Manager. You were wrong!! And saying he did an excellent job at his level in Division One just further adds to your ridiculous statements which try to show how 'clever' you are, but in actual fact show you up to be the fukcwit that you really are.


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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Barry the bird boggler » 15 Mar 2013 11:21

Reading way is not dead it will be alive and well and back to normal when we appoint one of Adkins, Parkinson or Dolan. Anyone expecting a "name" or someone otherwise "exciting" will be very much disappointed.

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sir Dodger Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:22

Gary has a scoring rate of 30% goals scored from over 500 games inc substitute. Still only 33 so could still help keep RFC in the Championship next season!!!

Better value than the wasters signed by McDonet. Carrico what a signing only £650000 for 20 minutes. Wowwwwwwwwww

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Hampshire Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:25

Again, Dodger refuses to answer a direct question. reading_fan asked you to say who you'd want as the new manager. Well?

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sir Dodger Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:25

It's good to see the same old RTGs can't hack it when SDR's predictions are spot on.

Live and learn from the main man. Have a good day. Byeeee

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sir Dodger Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:28

Sir Dodger's consultancy arm costs money. SDR doesn't do Freebies.

As an OAP he can't afford to buy Pizzas doing projects for noughttttttt

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Hampshire Royal » 15 Mar 2013 11:29

Sorry, matey, but you've never predicted anything, right or wrong. I hope that your pathetic little byeeee means that you're never going to come back on this baord.

Fcuk offff.

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Re: New Dawn, New Day & New Way

by Sanguine » 15 Mar 2013 11:34

Jonny Fordham says Dolan will be asking McDermott for advice ahead of the United game.

Fcuk off.

McDermott is gone for a reason, if Dolan doesn't want to take charge of the team, someone else should.

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