by RoyalBlue »
01 Feb 2015 10:58
If you still hate Futcher marlowuk RoyalBlue Which really shouldn't have made much difference given he wasn't playing in goal!
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Of course Ruddy did dive (for Norwich!). Westwood (for Wednesday) didn't. I'm sure he would have watched a recording of the Norwich game for that info!
^^^this, the trouble with the penalty was it was exactly the same as the one he took a couple of weeks ago - in fact it's the same penalty he takes every time. Usually he gets the keeper to go the wrong way and then strokes the ball into the empty net. When the keeper didn't dive it probably put him off a bit and rather than being able to adjust he just scuffed his shot making it look even worse.
For the offside goal, I thought at the time McCleary was onside but as I was in the North I assumed it was the angle I was looking at and there didn't seem to be that much of a reaction from fans behind the lino.
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There was a very angry reaction from fans in the East Stand behind the lino, which continued for some time, and rightly so.
Watch a recording of the incident in slowmo and you will see why. At the time HRK passes, the lino is a couple of yards ahead of the rugby line marking and McCleary is a couple of yards behind! Now either the lino is in line with the last defender*, in which case McCleary is yards onside, or he is ahead (I think he actually tracked Cox's run!
) and therefore not able to properly judge whether McCleary is on or offside.
Not completely possible to tell from the footage but imagine a line running parallel to the rugby line and cutting across the back of the defender and McCleary is at worst in line with him as the ball is released by HRK. Extremely poor officiating from a very poor official.
SydenhamRoyal P!ssed Off Awful penalty.
Not quite as awful as the linesman's offside flag for McCleary.
He was so blatantly onside! I think there needs to be some sort of retrospective punishment for linesmen wrongly ruling out goals for offside. It might encourage them to actually follow the rules for a change and give the attacker the benefit of the doubt.
He didnt rule out a goal for offside. The ref saw the flag, and blew the whistle before McCleary took his shot. Van Persie got a second yellow and a sending off at Barcelona for Arsenal for doing exactly that.
The assistant referees (as they are actually called) don't follow the rules, they follow the laws of football. In every game they will probably make a 100 decisions. They get paid about £300. What punishment would you give for one wrong decision? Nathaniel Chalobah gets paid £30,000 a week and he made a few wrong decisions today, so I assume you'll include that in your thinking about the punishment to the bloke getting 1% of that.
How would you judge that the "mistake" was worthy of whatever punishment it was decided upon - for example, how many slow motion replays would be required? And would that need to be done for every single decision? Would they get a bonus for the decision that was right, even though some pillock was screaming that they got it wrong? Would it only apply to decisions that were absolutely right or wrong, rather than those where different people have different opinions? Given that every ref and assistant ref will make a mistake in a game - either as a matter of fact, or according to some pillock's opinion - do you think that punishing them, lets say by dropping them altogether or removing the match fee for one mistake will a) lead to no referees at all and therefore no football or b) lead to no referees at all and therefore no football.
The reason he made the 'mistake' was that he wasn't staying in line with the last defender as he is required to do so. Therefore, it wasn't so much a case of making an innocent mistake, he simply wasn't doing his job as instructed, which is far more culpable.
Oh, and if he flagged because Cox was offside, then he is one iteration behind the latest laws, which is even more culpable!
Edit: *As Nameless correctly points out, I do, of course, mean the last but one defender. I was speaking on the assumption that in most cases the keeper is behind the last outfield defender.
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RoyalBlue on 01 Feb 2015 11:54, edited 2 times in total.