BFTG - Wigan

[Lower West]

I think it's simply just a case that there are too many fans still living in 106-land and just haven't watched many other live football matches so the style of play and not lumping into the oppositions half it is just not on their wavelength when it comes to watching football at the mad Stad.

Nah. Been watching football for over 50 years. Today was turgid. The worst I've ever seen a top 3 side play in any division. Simply no pattern to the play. After 45 league games you'd expect better.

[percy_freeman]

Could you imagine what Aguero or Delli Alli would of done to us today. But we did our job. Onwards and Upwards. Life as a Reading fan is always going to be a blast!

[Greatwesternline]

To those who keep saying, "but we got the three points"....


Well from now on with a two legged affair, where three points is meaningless, our goal difference suggests we will lose easily in the play offs.

Not to get all snowball on anyone, but we specialise at picking up points in one goal wins at home, so beating teams by one goal at home and taking a heavy defeat away from home isn't going to cut it in the play offs.

I'm glad our season is now in play off mode, and it seems we will most likely finish 3rd, which obviously by definition says we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

I fully expect us to win by one goal at home, but that will be too little too late because we will have lost by more away.

But there you go, go on Reading surprise me!



p.s. to all the teachers on this board, is it normal that so many people on this forum type "should of" when they mean "should have"?
I'm 30 so perhaps i'm already old, but i'm fairly sure my teachers at school would have knocked such an elementary misunderstanding of English out of me. Am i wrong?

[Kuhl_Runnings]

Pretty boring game in all honesty, don't really remember much. Atmosphere was pretty oxf*rd bad today, made worse by those guys in Y25 that wouldn't stop singing "we're on our way" which got on my oxf*rd nerves (I hope someone agrees with me).

[Davezk]

It's should have and anyone who says should of is an idiot.

[Woodcote Royal]

by definition we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

+1

Just because Brighton and Newcastle have generated more " results" than the rest of division it would be laughable to suggest they are the two best teams. Generating results does not a good team make.






















Where do these twats come from

[Jackson Corner]

How many times have we walked away this season thinking how did we win that? We must be doing something right not sure what it is but hey we keep winning and we are in the play offs. I look at Brentford who play great attacking football score loads of goals concede loads very entertaining mid table. And us drab boring sideways football scrappy 1-0 wins against crap teams third place. I know what I'd prefer.

[Nameless]

To those who keep saying, "but we got the three points"....


Well from now on with a two legged affair, where three points is meaningless, our goal difference suggests we will lose easily in the play offs.

Not to get all snowball on anyone, but we specialise at picking up points in one goal wins at home, so beating teams by one goal at home and taking a heavy defeat away from home isn't going to cut it in the play offs.

I'm glad our season is now in play off mode, and it seems we will most likely finish 3rd, which obviously by definition says we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

I fully expect us to win by one goal at home, but that will be too little too late because we will have lost by more away.
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Sadly you did go all Snowball !

Alternative analysis says in games against the other playoff sides we have a good record of 4 wins, 2 defeats.
We've won away by 2 goals, lost by a single goal and lost by a few more (in a game when we were down to 10).
Nothing suggests we will lose easily, in fact the stats suggest we'd 'easily' beat Wednesday and need to flip a coin for their other 2.
You argue against yourself by saying we are only 3rd best at generating results, but not the 3rd best team. At this stage it is 100% about results. No marks for style, just need to win.
I think the playoffs are wide open. We could be Bad Reading and get a hiding but equally we could be Good Reading and win the whole thing.
I think getting McShane back is a big part of our hopes and wonder if Jaap has deliberately held him back to make sure he is 100% rather than letting him play at 80%, which he would usually have done.

[Linden Jones' Tash]

I think the nature of being a fan is to underplayed one's own team performance.

Does anyone remember what they thought when we went up last time under Brian?

We got the best results, but it would be a stretch to claim we played the best football

This time around, I'd like to think we are a work in progress and with the right confidence, we'll do better than we think

We have yet to hit the highs, perhaps they will come in the next 4 games...

As for the game, Ilori did look good, our midfield needs tweaking and when will I get to see Mendes properly...

[royalp-we]

I think it's simply just a case that there are too many fans still living in 106-land and just haven't watched many other live football matches so the style of play and not lumping into the oppositions half it is just not on their wavelength when it comes to watching football at the mad Stad.

Nah. Been watching football for over 50 years. Today was turgid. The worst I've ever seen a top 3 side play in any division. Simply no pattern to the play. After 45 league games you'd expect better.

I did post that it was a bit of an ugly win and boring match, but you failed to quote that bit old boy. I am not suggesting you are one of the fan mindsets I mention, but I assure you we still have fans who talk as if Coppell was manager yesterday and the current team are always compared to them.

I'm referring to the people I mentioned in my post who after 45 games still yell 'forward' and lose their sh1t if a pass goes astray.

[Greatwesternline]

by definition we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

+1

Just because Brighton and Newcastle have generated more " results" than the rest of division it would be laughable to suggest they are the two best teams. Generating results does not a good team make.






















Where do these twats come from

Just because I put an idea out there you don't agree with it makes me a twat? Why so angry woodcote?

What I'm trying to get across is that we have an ability to collect points, but doesn't necessarily make us the best team.

Our very low goal difference compared to our rivals suggests to me that while we may have turned the odd draw into a win and therefore have a couple more points, our rivals have more ability to score more goals than they concede over two legs.

[Sutekh]

Another awful game but another 3 points and so back to false third again.

Really hope Macdonald gets back playing quickly. Don't think it was a red as the reaction of the players was fairly calm. Noticed also one of the Wigan players went over to Evans and had what looked to be a friendly chat and they certainly didn't try to wind Evans up afterwards so pretty sure it was just a very unfortunate accident that sometimes happens with a 50-50 ball.

Second half was best not mentioned as, apart from the officials missing a nailed on penalty, Reading did absolutely nothing.

[Sutekh]

by definition we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

+1

Just because Brighton and Newcastle have generated more " results" than the rest of division it would be laughable to suggest they are the two best teams. Generating results does not a good team make.




Where do these twats come from

Just because I put an idea out there you don't agree with it makes me a twat? Why so angry woodcote?

What I'm trying to get across is that we have an ability to collect points, but doesn't necessarily make us the best team.

Our very low goal difference compared to our rivals suggests to me that while we may have turned the odd draw into a win and therefore have a couple more points, our rivals have more ability to score more goals than they concede over two legs.

Simply, Reading are not the most entertaining team to watch in the division but they are - currently - the third most effective team at getting points/results in the league and at the end of the day that is what matters.

It all depends on what definition you are using to fi the word "best". Logically, in a league, the best team is the one that wins it not the one that finishes lower in the table but is better at being entertaining or getting the most shots or keeping possession or getting the biggest cross etc.

[LWJ]

I think it's simply just a case that there are too many fans still living in 106-land and just haven't watched many other live football matches so the style of play and not lumping into the oppositions half it is just not on their wavelength when it comes to watching football at the mad Stad.

Nah. Been watching football for over 50 years. Today was turgid. The worst I've ever seen a top 3 side play in any division. Simply no pattern to the play. After 45 league games you'd expect better.

Can you move your seat to the ED please and join all the other negative fans there

Did you expect to be top 3 at any point this season? No.
Are we a 'top 3' side? No
Have you enjoyed the season? Yes
Was yesterday a bit of a pointless game with nothing really to play for? Yes
Should I sell your Burton ticket so we can keep the negativity out of the stands? ??????

[Stockport Royal]

Great to see that our current position is still being seen as a 'false' one, now with only 1 league game to go, not long left for us to drop down to our actual position of 14th.

I'm sure they're having a party in Norwich, Derby and Aston knowing that although their current 'false' position outside the playoffs isn't great, their actual position is in the automatic spots and PL football awaits.

[genome]

+1

Just because Brighton and Newcastle have generated more " results" than the rest of division it would be laughable to suggest they are the two best teams. Generating results does not a good team make.




Where do these twats come from

Just because I put an idea out there you don't agree with it makes me a twat? Why so angry woodcote?

What I'm trying to get across is that we have an ability to collect points, but doesn't necessarily make us the best team.

Our very low goal difference compared to our rivals suggests to me that while we may have turned the odd draw into a win and therefore have a couple more points, our rivals have more ability to score more goals than they concede over two legs.

Simply, Reading are not the most entertaining team to watch in the division but they are - currently - the third most effective team at getting points/results in the league and at the end of the day that is what matters.

It all depends on what definition you are using to fi the word "best". Logically, in a league, the best team is the one that wins it not the one that finishes lower in the table but is better at being entertaining or getting the most shots or keeping possession or getting the biggest cross etc.

Most people equate "best team" with the team that plays the most attractive football. Which in itself is subjective.

The best team is the team that gets the most points. End of.

[Jagermesiter1871]

I'm glad our season is now in play off mode, and it seems we will most likely finish 3rd, which obviously by definition says we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

Spot on. Everyone knows the only stat that matters is possession which makes us easily top 1 in the division.

[genome]

Fulham are actually top of the possession league, we are languishing in false 2nd.

[Woodcote Royal]

by definition we are the 3rd best team in the league, but in reality all it means is that we are the 3rd best team at generating results, which is not the same as being the 3rd best team, by any stretch of the imagination.

+1

Just because Brighton and Newcastle have generated more " results" than the rest of division it would be laughable to suggest they are the two best teams. Generating results does not a good team make.
























Where do these twats come from

Just because I put an idea out there you don't agree with it makes me a twat? Why so angry woodcote?

What I'm trying to get across is that we have an ability to collect points, but doesn't necessarily make us the best team.

Our very low goal difference compared to our rivals suggests to me that while we may have turned the odd draw into a win and therefore have a couple more points, our rivals have more ability to score more goals than they concede over two legs.

Respect to Nameless above for gracing your observations with a few lessons in the blindingly obvious whereas some of us just can't be arsed.

[paultheroyal]

Could you imagine what Aguero or Delli Alli would of done to us today. But we did our job. Onwards and Upwards. Life as a Reading fan is always going to be a blast!

What about lukaku and Sanchez?

Walcott and Rashford?

How about King and Vardy?