by windermereROYAL » 18 Sep 2017 19:29
by Norfolk Royal » 18 Sep 2017 19:37
by CountryRoyal » 18 Sep 2017 19:47
Norfolk Royal Even if they find the person responsible for discharging the smoke bomb all he/she has to say is that it went off by mistake. Little tip there.
by Gunny Fishcake » 18 Sep 2017 20:13
Jagermesiter1871 I mean blue smoke and chanting football fans is a pretty good give away it wasn't anything particularly sinister.
I would be very surprised if any passengers on the train thought their life was in danger.
by Norfolk Royal » 18 Sep 2017 20:16
CountryRoyalNorfolk Royal Even if they find the person responsible for discharging the smoke bomb all he/she has to say is that it went off by mistake. Little tip there.
Are accidents no longer punishable by law?
Might as well just get rid of vehicular manslaughter or death by dangerous driving... clearly if you didn't mean to do it that makes everything ok.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Sep 2017 20:21
Snowflake RoyalJagermesiter1871 I mean blue smoke and chanting football fans is a pretty good give away it wasn't anything particularly sinister.
Definitely obnoxious and probably very irritating if you were a normal passenger on the train but football fans in general are that. Don't really get why everyone is getting upset over this. I would be very surprised if any passengers on the train thought their life was in danger.
Said by a person who knows about, and understands football and football fans. For those who aren't embedded in the culture, just fans shouting on a train can be intimidating and scary, let alone letting off smoke bombs.
Quite simply, it is incredibly inconsiderate. Regardless of any safety or health related risks, which there clearly are, how about just not being a total dick in the first place?
by Gunny Fishcake » 18 Sep 2017 20:23
Norfolk RoyalCountryRoyalNorfolk Royal Even if they find the person responsible for discharging the smoke bomb all he/she has to say is that it went off by mistake. Little tip there.
Are accidents no longer punishable by law?
Might as well just get rid of vehicular manslaughter or death by dangerous driving... clearly if you didn't mean to do it that makes everything ok.
from the accidental discharge of a smoke bomb.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Sep 2017 20:23
Gunny FishcakeJagermesiter1871 I mean blue smoke and chanting football fans is a pretty good give away it wasn't anything particularly sinister.
I would be very surprised if any passengers on the train thought their life was in danger.
24 hours after the Parsons Green incident , that was a train carriage filled with smoke.....how on earth do you think any innocent passengers would feel , even though it was our so called football fans.
They're p*ssed up and thinks it's great acting like that , they should be punished, not a life ban but a season ban, considering the current climate of fear over terrorism.
And they will be caught wait and see.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Sep 2017 20:24
Gunny FishcakeNorfolk RoyalCountryRoyal
Are accidents no longer punishable by law?
Might as well just get rid of vehicular manslaughter or death by dangerous driving... clearly if you didn't mean to do it that makes everything ok.
from the accidental discharge of a smoke bomb.
Note the word bomb.....may give an indication to the feelings on this matter....and why would anybody want to take one to a game anyhow ....they are clearly banned
by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Sep 2017 20:37
windermereROYALKatieY23windermereROYAL A few lads making noise on the platform on my way up. train had 8 carriages , I made a point on being on a different one to them.
Noise? On the way to a football match?
I hope you found space in the train for your flask and blanket.
I didn`t say that did I you fecking plum, if I don`t want a hour of Reading chants that my choice, we all have them in our life, look it up before your spiteful comments.
by windermereROYAL » 18 Sep 2017 21:03
Jagermesiter1871windermereROYALKatieY23 Noise? On the way to a football match?
I hope you found space in the train for your flask and blanket.
I didn`t say that did I you fecking plum, if I don`t want a hour of Reading chants that my choice, we all have them in our life, look it up before your spiteful comments.
You dramalama - spiteful comments?
by Gunny Fishcake » 18 Sep 2017 21:31
windermereROYALJagermesiter1871windermereROYAL
I didn`t say that did I you fecking plum, if I don`t want a hour of Reading chants that my choice, we all have them in our life, look it up before your spiteful comments.
You dramalama - spiteful comments?
yea had to edit that
by oldebiscuit » 18 Sep 2017 22:13
Jagermesiter1871 I mean blue smoke and chanting football fans is a pretty good give away it wasn't anything particularly sinister.
Definitely obnoxious and probably very irritating if you were a normal passenger on the train but football fans in general are that. Don't really get why everyone is getting upset over this. I would be very surprised if any passengers on the train thought their life was in danger.
by Snowflake Royal » 18 Sep 2017 22:28
Jagermesiter1871Snowflake RoyalJagermesiter1871 I mean blue smoke and chanting football fans is a pretty good give away it wasn't anything particularly sinister.
Definitely obnoxious and probably very irritating if you were a normal passenger on the train but football fans in general are that. Don't really get why everyone is getting upset over this. I would be very surprised if any passengers on the train thought their life was in danger.
Said by a person who knows about, and understands football and football fans. For those who aren't embedded in the culture, just fans shouting on a train can be intimidating and scary, let alone letting off smoke bombs.
Quite simply, it is incredibly inconsiderate. Regardless of any safety or health related risks, which there clearly are, how about just not being a total dick in the first place?
I said in my post that it was incredibly obnoxious and inconsiderate. Football fans generally are - shouting, chanting, swearing, public drinking etc - if you're not a football fan you're likely to find all of that either irritating or intimidating or somewhere in between but all of it is generally accepted.
I just don't buy that an obvious set of football fans letting of a blue smoke bomb whilst chanting and drinking could be misconstrued by anyone as being a terrorist attack, which is the implication by associating it with the Parsons Green incident. Stupid yes but feels like people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
by Norfolk Royal » 19 Sep 2017 08:25
Snowflake RoyalJagermesiter1871Snowflake Royal Said by a person who knows about, and understands football and football fans. For those who aren't embedded in the culture, just fans shouting on a train can be intimidating and scary, let alone letting off smoke bombs.
Quite simply, it is incredibly inconsiderate. Regardless of any safety or health related risks, which there clearly are, how about just not being a total dick in the first place?
I said in my post that it was incredibly obnoxious and inconsiderate. Football fans generally are - shouting, chanting, swearing, public drinking etc - if you're not a football fan you're likely to find all of that either irritating or intimidating or somewhere in between but all of it is generally accepted.
I just don't buy that an obvious set of football fans letting of a blue smoke bomb whilst chanting and drinking could be misconstrued by anyone as being a terrorist attack, which is the implication by associating it with the Parsons Green incident. Stupid yes but feels like people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
That assumes everyone would definitely know it was them and understand it was a stupid prank, rather than misunderstand and react in panic.
by Theroyalbox » 19 Sep 2017 08:28
by Hampshire Royal » 19 Sep 2017 08:34
by Jagermesiter1871 » 19 Sep 2017 16:16
Theroyalbox the thing that p!sses me off the most is the little gimp who posted it on twitter trying to sell the video for 50£ that's more punishable than what these lads did.
Harmless fun? if you can call it that but its certainly harmless if anything quite stupid. I'd imagine they will face punishment otherwise it'll happen again and again as people will think it can go unpunished. If the carriage was filled with football fans perhaps it would be more forgivable but people calling for life bans need to relax and lighten up a bit.
Personally I think its nice to see the youngsters come to the games enjoying themselves, but all you lot seem to think about is how chavvy they are.
by SCIAG » 20 Sep 2017 12:34
Norfolk Royal Perhaps you could explain what charges would result in my scenario from the accidental discharge of a smoke bomb. That would be a bit more accurate than your ludicrous conflation. Neither did I say that no charges would result, merely that a deliberate act would be difficult to prove were the suspect to say it were accidental.
by boycey » 20 Sep 2017 15:02
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