NewCorkSeth Swift - 7 - A player we have missed badly. Can see him leaving in January for a smaller fee than we would like to see. MOTM.
After signing a five year contract in the summer, no chance. Would take big bucks
by genome » 22 Oct 2017 11:41
NewCorkSeth Swift - 7 - A player we have missed badly. Can see him leaving in January for a smaller fee than we would like to see. MOTM.
by Woodcote Royal » 22 Oct 2017 12:00
by leon » 22 Oct 2017 12:05
Woodcote Royal Thought we’d turned a corner last week but now it appears it’s back to square one.
My bottom line was don’t start without a striker whilst having one fit and ready to go on the bench or sat in the stand.
Well, fair enough, Bod was injured, but last week was also about a defence that didn’t leak like a sieve. So, having stumbled upon such a rare beast thanks to our mounting injury crisis, more of the same should surely been the order of the day.
Don’t be silly. All that seemed clear about yesterday’s defence on Radio Berks was that it wasn’t the same as last weeks. Tim and Kev seemed to spend much of the afternoon trying to work out who was playing where.
Frankly, I feel like saying a big FFS
If yesterday’s match day squad and tactics are the best he could achieve from an uninterrupted week of training with this talented and expensively assembled squad, what is there left to say
In every walk of life management is about getting the most out of the resources at your disposal and whereas Stam did extremely well last season this one is turning into a disaster all of his own making.
What we really needed this summer was a keeper and a striker and he was given enough resources to acquire the required quality in both departments. Instead we got enough midfielders to prevent the highly talented Kelly and Swift playing a full role (I could handle some initial failure in order to sacrifice for the future)
He also sold/loaned out existing strike options before acquiring replacements. No one will tell me, at the very least, that Dominic Samuel would not have been a welcome addition for the cup games nor that, given our huge summer outlay, giving him another year to prove himself would not have been a comparately cheap and worthwhile punt.
I know our national game is littered with prematurely off loaded managers but surely those who are given more time need to be barking up the right tree. Nothing I’ve seen from Stam this season suggests this is still the case and every week that passes the whole he’s digging gets deeper.
Thanks for all the match reports
by Kitsondinho » 22 Oct 2017 12:17
by WAZZOCK » 22 Oct 2017 12:43
by Hound » 22 Oct 2017 12:46
by RG7Fan » 22 Oct 2017 12:48
Sutekhstrap Not me, my boy who was scouting Sheff Utd for upcoming game v LUFC, (he's an RFC fan and former ST holder)
"Woeful. Men against boys. Only shining light was Swift who made a huge difference. No other positives whatsoever. Pathetic."
Rather think I trust a professional's view on the performance rather than the cr@p Stam spouts.
Dont need to be a professional to know that plan A (i.e. dont play strikers but play a load of wingers) does not work and makes for nothing more than utterly pathetic football and zero threat. We all knew what to expect as soon as the lack of Bod was revealed yesterday.
Wonder if itll be the same next week or will there be an experienced striker available?
by NewCorkSeth » 22 Oct 2017 14:03
genomeNewCorkSeth Swift - 7 - A player we have missed badly. Can see him leaving in January for a smaller fee than we would like to see. MOTM.
After signing a five year contract in the summer, no chance. Would take big bucks
by WAZZOCK » 22 Oct 2017 14:16
RG7FanSutekhstrap Not me, my boy who was scouting Sheff Utd for upcoming game v LUFC, (he's an RFC fan and former ST holder)
"Woeful. Men against boys. Only shining light was Swift who made a huge difference. No other positives whatsoever. Pathetic."
Rather think I trust a professional's view on the performance rather than the cr@p Stam spouts.
Dont need to be a professional to know that plan A (i.e. dont play strikers but play a load of wingers) does not work and makes for nothing more than utterly pathetic football and zero threat. We all knew what to expect as soon as the lack of Bod was revealed yesterday.
Wonder if itll be the same next week or will there be an experienced striker available?
Why the hell didn't he play Smith?
by windermereROYAL » 22 Oct 2017 14:17
NewCorkSethgenomeNewCorkSeth Swift - 7 - A player we have missed badly. Can see him leaving in January for a smaller fee than we would like to see. MOTM.
After signing a five year contract in the summer, no chance. Would take big bucks
Just a bit worried that some of our better players and even some of our good players not getting much game time will be thinking about jumping ship.
by Oilroyal » 22 Oct 2017 14:21
leonWoodcote Royal Thought we’d turned a corner last week but now it appears it’s back to square one.
My bottom line was don’t start without a striker whilst having one fit and ready to go on the bench or sat in the stand.
Well, fair enough, Bod was injured, but last week was also about a defence that didn’t leak like a sieve. So, having stumbled upon such a rare beast thanks to our mounting injury crisis, more of the same should surely been the order of the day.
Don’t be silly. All that seemed clear about yesterday’s defence on Radio Berks was that it wasn’t the same as last weeks. Tim and Kev seemed to spend much of the afternoon trying to work out who was playing where.
Frankly, I feel like saying a big FFS
If yesterday’s match day squad and tactics are the best he could achieve from an uninterrupted week of training with this talented and expensively assembled squad, what is there left to say
In every walk of life management is about getting the most out of the resources at your disposal and whereas Stam did extremely well last season this one is turning into a disaster all of his own making.
What we really needed this summer was a keeper and a striker and he was given enough resources to acquire the required quality in both departments. Instead we got enough midfielders to prevent the highly talented Kelly and Swift playing a full role (I could handle some initial failure in order to sacrifice for the future)
He also sold/loaned out existing strike options before acquiring replacements. No one will tell me, at the very least, that Dominic Samuel would not have been a welcome addition for the cup games nor that, given our huge summer outlay, giving him another year to prove himself would not have been a comparately cheap and worthwhile punt.
I know our national game is littered with prematurely off loaded managers but surely those who are given more time need to be barking up the right tree. Nothing I’ve seen from Stam this season suggests this is still the case and every week that passes the whole he’s digging gets deeper.
Thanks for all the match reports
I think that Stam needs someone to advise him. He's a young manager - he'll make mistakes. What he needs is someone to point this out and help him get it right.
At the moment we are doing the same (wrong) things expecting a different outcome.
by Hound » 22 Oct 2017 14:29
RG7Fan
Why the hell didn't he play Smith?
by Pandoras Box » 22 Oct 2017 14:32
Hound
Simple thing is we just need to play better. Tactics going forward need to be better, movement needs to be better and we need to stop conceding every bloody game
by Hound » 22 Oct 2017 14:43
Pandoras BoxHound
Simple thing is we just need to play better. Tactics going forward need to be better, movement needs to be better and we need to stop conceding every bloody game
So basically all round fvcking useless.
by Oilroyal » 22 Oct 2017 14:58
HoundPandoras BoxHound
Simple thing is we just need to play better. Tactics going forward need to be better, movement needs to be better and we need to stop conceding every bloody game
So basically all round fvcking useless.
Well yeah. But also all things we got right one game ago against Leeds in a very good win
by Hound » 22 Oct 2017 15:23
by Snowflake Royal » 22 Oct 2017 16:17
RG7FanSutekhstrap Not me, my boy who was scouting Sheff Utd for upcoming game v LUFC, (he's an RFC fan and former ST holder)
"Woeful. Men against boys. Only shining light was Swift who made a huge difference. No other positives whatsoever. Pathetic."
Rather think I trust a professional's view on the performance rather than the cr@p Stam spouts.
Dont need to be a professional to know that plan A (i.e. dont play strikers but play a load of wingers) does not work and makes for nothing more than utterly pathetic football and zero threat. We all knew what to expect as soon as the lack of Bod was revealed yesterday.
Wonder if itll be the same next week or will there be an experienced striker available?
Why the hell didn't he play Smith?
by NewCorkSeth » 22 Oct 2017 16:29
OilroyalHoundPandoras Box
So basically all round fvcking useless.
Well yeah. But also all things we got right one game ago against Leeds in a very good win
So why do you think Stam changed that winning formation? He could have used Smith to replace Bod but instead chose to go back to his old ways and most of us not being able to make out a formation at all. I've read the posts saying Smith isn't good enough so please explain why Stam put the lad on the bench?
Hound, I do admire you plugging away in Stam's defence but come on mate, run with the facts, things have been complete pants and another 3 games of this shit and we'll be in real bother.
by royalp-we » 22 Oct 2017 20:33
OilroyalleonWoodcote Royal Thought we’d turned a corner last week but now it appears it’s back to square one.
My bottom line was don’t start without a striker whilst having one fit and ready to go on the bench or sat in the stand.
Well, fair enough, Bod was injured, but last week was also about a defence that didn’t leak like a sieve. So, having stumbled upon such a rare beast thanks to our mounting injury crisis, more of the same should surely been the order of the day.
Don’t be silly. All that seemed clear about yesterday’s defence on Radio Berks was that it wasn’t the same as last weeks. Tim and Kev seemed to spend much of the afternoon trying to work out who was playing where.
Frankly, I feel like saying a big FFS
If yesterday’s match day squad and tactics are the best he could achieve from an uninterrupted week of training with this talented and expensively assembled squad, what is there left to say
In every walk of life management is about getting the most out of the resources at your disposal and whereas Stam did extremely well last season this one is turning into a disaster all of his own making.
What we really needed this summer was a keeper and a striker and he was given enough resources to acquire the required quality in both departments. Instead we got enough midfielders to prevent the highly talented Kelly and Swift playing a full role (I could handle some initial failure in order to sacrifice for the future)
He also sold/loaned out existing strike options before acquiring replacements. No one will tell me, at the very least, that Dominic Samuel would not have been a welcome addition for the cup games nor that, given our huge summer outlay, giving him another year to prove himself would not have been a comparately cheap and worthwhile punt.
I know our national game is littered with prematurely off loaded managers but surely those who are given more time need to be barking up the right tree. Nothing I’ve seen from Stam this season suggests this is still the case and every week that passes the whole he’s digging gets deeper.
Thanks for all the match reports
I think that Stam needs someone to advise him. He's a young manager - he'll make mistakes. What he needs is someone to point this out and help him get it right.
At the moment we are doing the same (wrong) things expecting a different outcome.
I was thinking the same thing this morning. He may get advice from the Director of football, Brian Tevreden and from what I've been told Steven Reid often spoke his mind. But I get the feeling Stam's an emotional person beneath his hard exterior and spikes when questioned. I also know that that following the team's 3rd place finish everyone at the club moved heaven and earth to support him ahead of this season. I think Stam pretty much called the shots so far.
After 3 wins in 12, Stam needs some serious help but I fear he's not one for advice from others on matters of his own doing. In his mind he wants to pull the rabbit from the hat all by himself.
by leon » 22 Oct 2017 21:15
Snowflake RoyalRG7FanSutekh
Dont need to be a professional to know that plan A (i.e. dont play strikers but play a load of wingers) does not work and makes for nothing more than utterly pathetic football and zero threat. We all knew what to expect as soon as the lack of Bod was revealed yesterday.
Wonder if itll be the same next week or will there be an experienced striker available?
Why the hell didn't he play Smith?
Because he thinks Smith is less good than Beerens, Aluko or Barrow being the obvious answer.
Clamour for Smith is very much a case of putting faith in someone purely because they're someone different who's not really been seen. Any striker, no matter their experience, quality or goalscoring record is not automatically superior to senior forwards. There's this weird obssession with football fans that it's better the devil you don't know.
Smith's had a couple of chances in the first team and not impressed. It's not even like he's scored loads in the Academy, a decent amount for sure, but the step up is huge.