by TiagoIlori » 16 Nov 2017 05:29
by Elm Park Kid » 16 Nov 2017 09:18
by Hound » 16 Nov 2017 09:32
by muirinho » 16 Nov 2017 09:34
Elm Park Kid These days I would say it's more about having a 'Premier league' team rather than individual players. You need a group of people that understand how each other play and are completely committed to their goal . You could take half of Watford's first team and mix it with half of Newcastle's and it would get relegated without a doubt.
I would actually look at it in terms of positions in which we clearly lacking. LB for sure, attacking threat from midfield definitely, a threat upfront other than Kermogant is obvious.
TiagoIlori Not convinced Moore can manage the step up(seems to at times do similar mistakes to what Blackett or Gunter do that 99% Reading fans conveniently choose to ignore)
by Sutekh » 16 Nov 2017 09:54
by TiagoIlori » 16 Nov 2017 11:53
Elm Park Kid These days I would say it's more about having a 'Premier league' team rather than individual players. You need a group of people that understand how each other play and are completely committed to their goal . You could take half of Watford's first team and mix it with half of Newcastle's and it would get relegated without a doubt.
I would actually look at it in terms of positions in which we clearly lacking. LB for sure, attacking threat from midfield definitely, a threat upfront other than Kermogant is obvious.
by TiagoIlori » 16 Nov 2017 11:58
muirinhoElm Park Kid These days I would say it's more about having a 'Premier league' team rather than individual players. You need a group of people that understand how each other play and are completely committed to their goal . You could take half of Watford's first team and mix it with half of Newcastle's and it would get relegated without a doubt.
I would actually look at it in terms of positions in which we clearly lacking. LB for sure, attacking threat from midfield definitely, a threat upfront other than Kermogant is obvious.
Agree with this - before Leicester won the PL, think most would have described all of their team as Championship quality.
You need decent Championship players, with a sprinkling of magic to make things happen. Just 2 or 3 players with class, in a team that all understand each other, makes a huge difference.TiagoIlori Not convinced Moore can manage the step up(seems to at times do similar mistakes to what Blackett or Gunter do that 99% Reading fans conveniently choose to ignore)
Also, please note - PL defenders make mistakes too. I think if you're watching PL football without the emotional investment of it being your team, you'll notice the mistakes less. But they are certainly there.
by TiagoIlori » 16 Nov 2017 12:14
Sutekh Better to ask if Reading were promoted and survived their first season back in the PL how many of the current Reading squad would be here to see that second season ... I would tentatively suggest that that SQUAD of 25 would still include
Swift
Moore
Ilori
Obita
Kelly
Barrow
Bacuna
Mannone
It also wouldn't surprise me to still see Gunter and McShane on the books as well plus, obviously, any of the youngsters that may fulfil potential e.g. Rinomhota, Watson, Richards, Loader, Smith, Holsgrove etc.
How many of them would be regular starters of course is another question entirely and it certainly shows Reading still need to make heavy investment on the playing side in order to be competitive at that level.
But then what would we have said to the same question if it had been asked in November 2005?
by Hendo » 16 Nov 2017 12:36
TiagoIlori Personally I can only see John Swift cutting it, Liam Kelly may well have premier league technical ability as some people claim but he needs time to adapt to men’s football, unfortunately the English leagues just don’t seem to suit him whatsoever. Not convinced Moore can manage the step up(seems to at times do similar mistakes to what Blackett or Gunter do that 99% Reading fans conveniently choose to ignore)
by TiagoIlori » 16 Nov 2017 12:47
HendoTiagoIlori Personally I can only see John Swift cutting it, Liam Kelly may well have premier league technical ability as some people claim but he needs time to adapt to men’s football, unfortunately the English leagues just don’t seem to suit him whatsoever. Not convinced Moore can manage the step up(seems to at times do similar mistakes to what Blackett or Gunter do that 99% Reading fans conveniently choose to ignore)
And this is where I stopped reading/taking any real interest.
Moore is by far our best defender and to pool him in with Blackett is pretty
by SCIAG » 16 Nov 2017 13:10
by John Smith » 16 Nov 2017 14:43
SCIAG We certainly wouldn't be able to get away with using Smith or Rinomhota and we'd be asking a lot of Richards. Difficult time for Holsgrove or McIntyre to step up but players do it every year.
by Silver Fox » 16 Nov 2017 15:08
Sutekh Better to ask if Reading were promoted and survived their first season back in the PL how many of the current Reading squad would be here to see that second season ... I would tentatively suggest that that SQUAD of 25 would still include
Swift
Moore
Ilori
Obita
Kelly
Barrow
Bacuna
Mannone
It also wouldn't surprise me to still see Gunter and McShane on the books as well plus, obviously, any of the youngsters that may fulfil potential e.g. Rinomhota, Watson, Richards, Loader, Smith, Holsgrove etc.
How many of them would be regular starters of course is another question entirely and it certainly shows Reading still need to make heavy investment on the playing side in order to be competitive at that level.
But then what would we have said to the same question if it had been asked in November 2005?
by muirinho » 16 Nov 2017 15:51
TiagoIlori Never claimed Blackett was as good as Moore, if it was implied then no I still wouldn’t claim it. However, I do think he can make mistakes that are conveniently overlooked. Maybe it’s just me, I love Moore(favourite defender since Ian Harte) it’s just that I can’t help but think had Blackett or Gunter missed that penalty instead theyd have got death threats, so I feel he doesn’t always get his fair share of criticism, seems very common for fans to not say anything negative about players they really like nowadays
by Victor Meldrew » 16 Nov 2017 16:50
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