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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by bagman » 09 Jan 2018 12:33

Much as it is possible to criticise SJM and Nigel ( two very different and possibly flawed personalities ) they ultimately had the best interests of RFC at the centre of what they did, albeit for different reasons. They knew little about football, but were guided and influenced by Nick Hammond and Ian Wood-Smith ( both now absent from the Boardroom for different reasons)

The rot really started not with Anton ( who was naive , but well intentioned ) but the influence of Samuelson, Oblenski and the two Andersons , who were after making money out of the Club. Paroj then came along with the Thai deal, and agents continued to proliferate.

The Thais quickly moved on from the football side to making potentially a great deal of money for themselves from REP, and we now have the Chinese siblings, whose intentions remain unclear as they choose to take such a low profile and do not communicate at all with the fan base ( the total opposite to SJM !)

I would be willing to give the Chinese owners the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but we now have Gourlay in total control of the Football Club ( Nigel is running the REP project and SJM is totally marginalised ) and that potentially is the biggest disaster to date

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Nessa From Eldorado » 09 Jan 2018 12:47

bagman wrote:Much as it is possible to criticise SJM and Nigel ( two very different and possibly flawed personalities ) they ultimately had the best interests of RFC at the centre of what they did, albeit for different reasons. They knew little about football, but were guided and influenced by Nick Hammond and Ian Wood-Smith ( both now absent from the Boardroom for different reasons)

The rot really started not with Anton ( who was naive , but well intentioned ) but the influence of Samuelson, Oblenski and the two Andersons , who were after making money out of the Club. Paroj then came along with the Thai deal, and agents continued to proliferate.

The Thais quickly moved on from the football side to making potentially a great deal of money for themselves from REP, and we now have the Chinese siblings, whose intentions remain unclear as they choose to take such a low profile and do not communicate at all with the fan base ( the total opposite to SJM !)

I would be willing to give the Chinese owners the benefit of the doubt for the moment, but we now have Gourlay in total control of the Football Club ( Nigel is running the REP project and SJM is totally marginalised ) and that potentially is the biggest disaster to date


This.

Tony Le Mesmer wrote:
I would politely suggest that the current problems at the club have literally fck all to do with what formation we play.

The whole ethos of the club has gone from one extreme to the other. The whole club is absolutely rotten. Owners, directors, manager, coaches, players, fans. The whole lot.


And probably most of that.

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Forbury Lion » 09 Jan 2018 13:38

The board needs someone with more football knowledge, not necessarily a board member. This would normally be the director of football but I don't think we have the right person in place in terms of experience of the club/game/league etc combined with a manager in a similar situation.

I don't know what the situation is with our scouting network, Do they even scout players/games in this country? - If they see a future opponent totally demolish a team similar to ourselves or better playing the same tactics as us, shouldn't that give the manager some food for thought?

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Maneki Neko » 09 Jan 2018 16:08

genome wrote:
Maneki Neko wrote:and I know he ended up splitting opinions, but the way McDermott was treated(Twice) was the day(s) that the club began to die. imo


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:roll: oooo look at you with your research, and checking of previous posts and responding to actual words wot I wrote. :roll:



(kind of meant the old club, and that this new entity is something else entirely, but thanks for keeping me on my toes. A*)

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Royal Lady » 09 Jan 2018 16:42

Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:


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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by genome » 09 Jan 2018 16:54

I mean, you're making a bit of a leap there, RL

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Maneki Neko » 09 Jan 2018 16:55

personally, I think that kind of chicken lickening is going too far

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Hound » 09 Jan 2018 17:23

indeed. Lets be honest, its hardly prime real estate at the moment.

If they were really that fussed they could find similar size land on the A33. Not like that part of Reading is short of land to build on

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by AthleticoSpizz » 09 Jan 2018 17:29

Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:
you mean like, JS being under their contract for the £ and property? :o


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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Royal Lady » 09 Jan 2018 17:59

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Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:
you mean like, JS being under their contract for the £ and property? :o

No I mean they obviously don't care that he is dragging us down the league with his refusal to change tactics etc - so they not bothered about replacing him - they know he'll go when another team comes in for him while we languish down the lower leagues. Until these new owners come out and say otherwise, that's what I'm going with!

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Lower West » 09 Jan 2018 18:04

Hound wrote:indeed. Lets be honest, its hardly prime real estate at the moment.

If they were really that fussed they could find similar size land on the A33. Not like that part of Reading is short of land to build on


No rush until the rail link is built..

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Maneki Neko » 10 Jan 2018 09:45

Royal Lady wrote:
AthleticoSpizz wrote:
Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:
you mean like, JS being under their contract for the £ and property? :o

No I mean they obviously don't care that he is dragging us down the league with his refusal to change tactics etc - so they not bothered about replacing him - they know he'll go when another team comes in for him while we languish down the lower leagues. Until these new owners come out and say otherwise, that's what I'm going with!


its a little bit convoluted though, isn't it?

they could have just bought the greyhound stadium land, would have been cheaper, and it wouldn't have needed a plan to slowly bankrupt a championship football club through poor management decisions to do so

Until these new owners come out and say otherwise


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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Forbury Lion » 10 Jan 2018 14:24

Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:
Is there anything we can do to get the groud protected?


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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by muirinho » 10 Jan 2018 14:33

Forbury Lion wrote:Is there anything we can do to get the groud protected?


It's an Asset of Community Value. Which means that if it comes up for sale, the fans can buy it. That's about as much as can be done.

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by John Smith » 10 Jan 2018 14:44

Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:

Crikey. A bad run of form and suddenly it's Armageddon.

What you be like if we were in Coventry's position?!

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by biff » 10 Jan 2018 15:38

Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol: fcking christ

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by LWJ » 10 Jan 2018 15:47

Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You're so senile, bless <3 xxxxxxx

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Tilehurstsouthbank » 10 Jan 2018 15:49

LWJ wrote:
Royal Lady wrote:Mark my words, the Thais were in for the money to be gleaned from the land around the stadium and the Chinese will end up building on the stadium itself if something is not done and soon. I'd like to think that STAR are trying to arrange meetings with someone on the board, in order to allay our fears, but I doubt they'll have much luck.

For them, if the club goes down and down the leagues, the Chinese will be happy - develop the ground and we'll be playing at Prospect Park. Or sharing with Aldershot. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You're so senile, bless <3 xxxxxxx


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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Royal Lady » 10 Jan 2018 16:29

:lol: Charming!!

I was about in the days of the proposed Thames Valley Royals merger - no-one could have foretold that little scenario a few years previously. It is clear the Chinese are not interested in the football side of things, so what are they interested in?

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Re: Madjeski and Howe

by Old Man Andrews » 10 Jan 2018 16:58

Royal Lady wrote::lol: Charming!!

I was about in the days of the proposed Thames Valley Royals merger - no-one could have foretold that little scenario a few years previously. It is clear the Chinese are not interested in the football side of things, so what are they interested in?


Nobody knows what they are interested in, think that's the issue for a lot of supporters. Any sort of statement would be welcome, long overdue.

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