Forbury LionFrom the Millwall fans.genomeHound I don't think I've even heard a single Stam out chant (though I didn't go to Millwall)
There was a chorus of "you're getting sacked in the morning" after Millwall's 2nd
And joined by Reading fans
by genome » 12 Feb 2018 13:45
Forbury LionFrom the Millwall fans.genomeHound I don't think I've even heard a single Stam out chant (though I didn't go to Millwall)
There was a chorus of "you're getting sacked in the morning" after Millwall's 2nd
by BKnumber6 » 12 Feb 2018 13:50
Forbury Lion The best way for Stam to improve the atmosphere for his players is to tell the fans to boo him, Let him take the flack - A chant of Sacked in the morning or Stam Out is going to make it clear to the players that they are not the ones being blamed/booed and that will probably be better than gerneric boo's which may affect them.
by Tilehurstsouthbank » 12 Feb 2018 14:02
genomeForbury LionFrom the Millwall fans.genome
There was a chorus of "you're getting sacked in the morning" after Millwall's 2nd
And joined by Reading fans
by Theroyalbox » 12 Feb 2018 14:09
by 72 bus » 12 Feb 2018 14:17
TilehurstsouthbankgenomeForbury Lion From the Millwall fans.
And joined by Reading fans
This is fact. I'm in Y24 and I could hear and see people in Y25 & Y26 signing this.
by Victor Meldrew » 12 Feb 2018 14:25
strapEaststandman I'm sorry l don't buy this we are shit fans and it's our fault and the atmosphere is making the team shit! They are well paid, selected individuals, prepared and groomed by a manager to give of their best in a cohesive way! When that happens we get excited, in adversity we get vociferous towards the other team, OUR opponents! It's a circle and the professionals are underperforming!
Can only agree with you. As an example, Monaco regularly play to home crowds of less than 10000. I have no idea what atmosphere they generate, but it won't be anything like Old Trafford etc. The Monaco players certainly seem unaffected by playing home matches in such an environment given they are 2nd in the French Ligue 1.
It really is the responsibility of the players and management, in the first instance, to galvanise the fans and give them something worth shouting about. After all, the fans are paying to be entertained. I cannot think of another example in the "entertainment industry" where the paying customers are expected to galvanise the performers to perform.
by Eaststandman » 12 Feb 2018 14:39
by Tilehurstsouthbank » 12 Feb 2018 14:40
72 busTilehurstsouthbankgenome
And joined by Reading fans
This is fact. I'm in Y24 and I could hear and see people in Y25 & Y26 signing this.
Deaf club 7 ?
by Denver Royal » 12 Feb 2018 15:09
Forbury Lion The best way for Stam to improve the atmosphere for his players is to tell the fans to boo him, Let him take the flack
by Forbury Lion » 12 Feb 2018 16:36
The booers are going to boo, might as well take one for the team and get them to boo himBKnumber6Forbury Lion The best way for Stam to improve the atmosphere for his players is to tell the fans to boo him, Let him take the flack - A chant of Sacked in the morning or Stam Out is going to make it clear to the players that they are not the ones being blamed/booed and that will probably be better than gerneric boo's which may affect them.
Or....don't boo at all and get behind the team and the manager. I don't like Stam, never have if I'm honest but any kind of booing will be detrimental to what we ultimately want to achieve, which is staying up.
by Forbury Lion » 12 Feb 2018 16:39
signing/singingTilehurstsouthbank72 busTilehurstsouthbank
This is fact. I'm in Y24 and I could hear and see people in Y25 & Y26 signing this.
Deaf club 7 ?
Probably due a 'whoosh' here but in the words of the virgin Mary; Come again?
by ROYALJOE » 12 Feb 2018 18:47
TilehurstsouthbankgenomeForbury Lion From the Millwall fans.
And joined by Reading fans
This is fact. I'm in Y24 and I could hear and see people in Y25 & Y26 signing this.
by SCIAG » 12 Feb 2018 19:11
Victor MeldrewstrapEaststandman I'm sorry l don't buy this we are shit fans and it's our fault and the atmosphere is making the team shit! They are well paid, selected individuals, prepared and groomed by a manager to give of their best in a cohesive way! When that happens we get excited, in adversity we get vociferous towards the other team, OUR opponents! It's a circle and the professionals are underperforming!
Can only agree with you. As an example, Monaco regularly play to home crowds of less than 10000. I have no idea what atmosphere they generate, but it won't be anything like Old Trafford etc. The Monaco players certainly seem unaffected by playing home matches in such an environment given they are 2nd in the French Ligue 1.
It really is the responsibility of the players and management, in the first instance, to galvanise the fans and give them something worth shouting about. After all, the fans are paying to be entertained. I cannot think of another example in the "entertainment industry" where the paying customers are expected to galvanise the performers to perform.
A better example might be Wimbledon of old.
Even in the Premier League their home support was often no bigger than 5,000 or so and when the big sides came to town they would outnumber the home support by two or three fold.
They managed to stay at the highest level of our game for many years but as a group of players they spurred each other on as did the different managers Gould and Bassett.and even won a cup final.
It couldn't have been the volume of home support that got them results against the big boys-it was determination and pride in performance and effort.
I have always thought that chanting, cheering etc. does more in terms of improving the "matchday experience" for us fans than it does to encourage the team to perform better.
As a PR exercise managers and players always say what a difference it makes to the players and their performance but I have never believed it-I see it, as strap says,that the players do something good or aggressive and fans join in and in doing so we are all in it together but to say that the fans need to do their stuff first is the wrong way round.
by Woodcote Royal » 12 Feb 2018 19:46
BKnumber6 We can boo and moan and stamp our feet but the long and short of it is that he will be here until the last kick of the last game.
by AthleticoSpizz » 12 Feb 2018 20:02
by Victor Meldrew » 13 Feb 2018 12:17
SCIAGVictor Meldrewstrap
Can only agree with you. As an example, Monaco regularly play to home crowds of less than 10000. I have no idea what atmosphere they generate, but it won't be anything like Old Trafford etc. The Monaco players certainly seem unaffected by playing home matches in such an environment given they are 2nd in the French Ligue 1.
It really is the responsibility of the players and management, in the first instance, to galvanise the fans and give them something worth shouting about. After all, the fans are paying to be entertained. I cannot think of another example in the "entertainment industry" where the paying customers are expected to galvanise the performers to perform.
A better example might be Wimbledon of old.
Even in the Premier League their home support was often no bigger than 5,000 or so and when the big sides came to town they would outnumber the home support by two or three fold.
They managed to stay at the highest level of our game for many years but as a group of players they spurred each other on as did the different managers Gould and Bassett.and even won a cup final.
It couldn't have been the volume of home support that got them results against the big boys-it was determination and pride in performance and effort.
I have always thought that chanting, cheering etc. does more in terms of improving the "matchday experience" for us fans than it does to encourage the team to perform better.
As a PR exercise managers and players always say what a difference it makes to the players and their performance but I have never believed it-I see it, as strap says,that the players do something good or aggressive and fans join in and in doing so we are all in it together but to say that the fans need to do their stuff first is the wrong way round.
I think it's pretty difficult to unpack the extent to which a louder crowd has a positive impact on the players.
I also think the three of you have missed the point being made. The issue isn't so much that the fans are often quiet, it's more that our fans are often noisily negative. Senior players have felt the need to have angry words with the fans when they start booing in the middle of a passing move. It is actively undermining the players.
by Theroyalbox » 13 Feb 2018 12:31
Victor MeldrewSCIAGVictor Meldrew
A better example might be Wimbledon of old.
Even in the Premier League their home support was often no bigger than 5,000 or so and when the big sides came to town they would outnumber the home support by two or three fold.
They managed to stay at the highest level of our game for many years but as a group of players they spurred each other on as did the different managers Gould and Bassett.and even won a cup final.
It couldn't have been the volume of home support that got them results against the big boys-it was determination and pride in performance and effort.
I have always thought that chanting, cheering etc. does more in terms of improving the "matchday experience" for us fans than it does to encourage the team to perform better.
As a PR exercise managers and players always say what a difference it makes to the players and their performance but I have never believed it-I see it, as strap says,that the players do something good or aggressive and fans join in and in doing so we are all in it together but to say that the fans need to do their stuff first is the wrong way round.
I think it's pretty difficult to unpack the extent to which a louder crowd has a positive impact on the players.
I also think the three of you have missed the point being made. The issue isn't so much that the fans are often quiet, it's more that our fans are often noisily negative. Senior players have felt the need to have angry words with the fans when they start booing in the middle of a passing move. It is actively undermining the players.
Come off it m8-one incident with Blackett for a few minutes hardly makes our crowd "noisily negative".
Ours is one of the least hostile crowds in the country and it takes something to produce the reaction to the helpless and hopeless Blackett impersonating a focused footballer.
The "angry words with the fans"-presumably you are referring to tweets made by Gunter and McShane.
We don't want tweets from players, we want maximum effort and a bit of personal responsibility on the pitch rather than moans from players and managers about a few (and it is only a few) booing from time to time.
Once again it is a good example of our predicament being everybody else's fault-it isn't, it is down to the manager and players.
by Tilehurstsouthbank » 13 Feb 2018 14:00
Forbury Lionsigning/singingTilehurstsouthbank72 bus
Deaf club 7 ?
Probably due a 'whoosh' here but in the words of the virgin Mary; Come again?
by SCIAG » 14 Feb 2018 20:00
Victor Meldrew
Come off it m8-one incident with Blackett for a few minutes hardly makes our crowd "noisily negative".
Ours is one of the least hostile crowds in the country and it takes something to produce the reaction to the helpless and hopeless Blackett impersonating a focused footballer.
The "angry words with the fans"-presumably you are referring to tweets made by Gunter and McShane.
We don't want tweets from players, we want maximum effort and a bit of personal responsibility on the pitch rather than moans from players and managers about a few (and it is only a few) booing from time to time.
Once again it is a good example of our predicament being everybody else's fault-it isn't, it is down to the manager and players.
by Denver Royal » 14 Feb 2018 20:20
Victor Meldrew ...moans from players and managers about a few (and it is only a few) booing
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