by windermereROYAL » 12 Feb 2018 11:46
by genome » 12 Feb 2018 11:49
Old Man AndrewsgenomeOld Man Andrews
Yep good shout, that was the time to do it. Possibly too late now, we just have to put up with it until summer.
I was thinking yesterday, if we do go down, I have the feeling that the Gourlay will still want to keep Stam, and see if he can turn it around in League One. Perish the thought, but I can really see that happening.
I would find it hard to believe the Stam or Gourlay have the bottle and stomach for League 1. We would have to literally press the reset button at the club and start from scratch with the youngsters and a manager who has experience of promotions in that league. Lets hope it doesn't come to that as we would be in financial ruin if we go down.
genomeOld Man Andrewsgenome
I was thinking yesterday, if we do go down, I have the feeling that the Gourlay will still want to keep Stam, and see if he can turn it around in League One. Perish the thought, but I can really see that happening.
I would find it hard to believe the Stam or Gourlay have the bottle and stomach for League 1. We would have to literally press the reset button at the club and start from scratch with the youngsters and a manager who has experience of promotions in that league. Lets hope it doesn't come to that as we would be in financial ruin if we go down.
I imagine the first thing we'd do is cash in on Liam Moore at a much reduced price. Then try and thin out the wage bill. I do wonder who would end up staying.
While going down could be a springboard if we do well, there's always the risk of doing a Coventry or Leyton Orient and continue tumbling down. Not sure I could take ending up like Coventry tbh.
by Denver Royal » 12 Feb 2018 11:55
savage 4 englandOld Man Andrewssavage 4 england Despite the problems with Stam, our squad is full of bang average players.
Who came third last season........ Can't be that average.
19th, 17th, 3rd, 18th...that's where we have been.
by Hound » 12 Feb 2018 12:05
Old Man AndrewsgenomeOld Man Andrews
I would find it hard to believe the Stam or Gourlay have the bottle and stomach for League 1. We would have to literally press the reset button at the club and start from scratch with the youngsters and a manager who has experience of promotions in that league. Lets hope it doesn't come to that as we would be in financial ruin if we go down.
I imagine the first thing we'd do is cash in on Liam Moore at a much reduced price. Then try and thin out the wage bill. I do wonder who would end up staying.
While going down could be a springboard if we do well, there's always the risk of doing a Coventry or Leyton Orient and continue tumbling down. Not sure I could take ending up like Coventry tbh.
Moore, Swift, Kelly will all have their value cut by about half I would think should we go down. We would be in deep, deep sh*t financially, it is a scary thought. I see some people bang on about different away days etc but there is a serious risk of ending up like Coventry like you say.
by Stranded » 12 Feb 2018 12:10
jar95 Cardiff at home, felt like this could have been the moment we kicked on had we won.
HoundOld Man Andrewsgenome
I imagine the first thing we'd do is cash in on Liam Moore at a much reduced price. Then try and thin out the wage bill. I do wonder who would end up staying.
While going down could be a springboard if we do well, there's always the risk of doing a Coventry or Leyton Orient and continue tumbling down. Not sure I could take ending up like Coventry tbh.
Moore, Swift, Kelly will all have their value cut by about half I would think should we go down. We would be in deep, deep sh*t financially, it is a scary thought. I see some people bang on about different away days etc but there is a serious risk of ending up like Coventry like you say.
I'm not saying you are wrong on the finances, but how much of a hit would going down be?
We'd lose some tv money undoubtedly, but we're not on often anyway. Crowds would prob go down, but maybe not by a huge amount if we had a good season (obvs a big if), though there are very few 'big' teams in that division. Though if Swindon and Oxford were in it would help.
Player values would certainly take a hit, but I'd assume we'd get rid of Swift, Aluko, Moore, Ilori, Mannone, Gunter, Barrow and maybe one or two others. The value of the squad would go down hugely, but we'd probably pull in a few quid from that lot. The wage bill would surely be massively slashed.
by Hound » 12 Feb 2018 12:16
Old Man AndrewsHoundOld Man Andrews
Moore, Swift, Kelly will all have their value cut by about half I would think should we go down. We would be in deep, deep sh*t financially, it is a scary thought. I see some people bang on about different away days etc but there is a serious risk of ending up like Coventry like you say.
I'm not saying you are wrong on the finances, but how much of a hit would going down be?
We'd lose some tv money undoubtedly, but we're not on often anyway. Crowds would prob go down, but maybe not by a huge amount if we had a good season (obvs a big if), though there are very few 'big' teams in that division. Though if Swindon and Oxford were in it would help.
Player values would certainly take a hit, but I'd assume we'd get rid of Swift, Aluko, Moore, Ilori, Mannone, Gunter, Barrow and maybe one or two others. The value of the squad would go down hugely, but we'd probably pull in a few quid from that lot. The wage bill would surely be massively slashed.
Aren't we in relative deep sh*t now financially? I was basing the financial peril on what we have now in the Championship and can only see League 1 being a bigger hit on our income. Would relegation stop the training ground development etc? Who knows.
With player sales we are probably ok, you're right. Would need a quick return to the Championship though. I worry we would just get lost in League 1 limbo for many years to come if we didn't come up straight away.
by Dickie's Spear » 12 Feb 2018 12:16
by Sanguine » 12 Feb 2018 13:12
HoundOld Man Andrewsgenome
I imagine the first thing we'd do is cash in on Liam Moore at a much reduced price. Then try and thin out the wage bill. I do wonder who would end up staying.
While going down could be a springboard if we do well, there's always the risk of doing a Coventry or Leyton Orient and continue tumbling down. Not sure I could take ending up like Coventry tbh.
Moore, Swift, Kelly will all have their value cut by about half I would think should we go down. We would be in deep, deep sh*t financially, it is a scary thought. I see some people bang on about different away days etc but there is a serious risk of ending up like Coventry like you say.
I'm not saying you are wrong on the finances, but how much of a hit would going down be?
We'd lose some tv money undoubtedly, but we're not on often anyway. Crowds would prob go down, but maybe not by a huge amount if we had a good season (obvs a big if), though there are very few 'big' teams in that division. Though if Swindon and Oxford were in it would help.
Player values would certainly take a hit, but I'd assume we'd get rid of Swift, Aluko, Moore, Ilori, Mannone, Gunter, Barrow and maybe one or two others. The value of the squad would go down hugely, but we'd probably pull in a few quid from that lot. The wage bill would surely be massively slashed.
by Hound » 12 Feb 2018 13:22
by Forbury Lion » 12 Feb 2018 13:26
by Elm Park Kid » 12 Feb 2018 13:30
by Hound » 12 Feb 2018 13:34
by Kingsley Junior » 12 Feb 2018 13:36
Elm Park KidHound Obita got injured after the window ended didn't he? In hindsight we've really struggled at LB but if Obita had been fit it wouldn't have been an issue
I think the biggest mistake in hindsight was trusting that Yann would come back and hit the ground running and play as he did last year. So as an extension of that, buying Aluko instead of a CF. And as an extension of that, seemingly having a shopping list of CFs who weren't going to be released by their club
There are/were certainly players we could have got hold of who would have made a massive difference, esp early season when we looked pretty good, but just lacking a CF
Well he hasn't played for us this season. Maybe it was thought that he would come back quicker and suffered a further injury after August.
Still - given that Obita isn't actually a left back himself I would have just bit the bullet and bought one in. He's a fine Championship player but if we ever got promoted we'd have to buy one anyway.
by Coppells Lost Coat » 12 Feb 2018 14:22
by The Royal Forester » 12 Feb 2018 14:39
HoundOld Man Andrewsgenome
I imagine the first thing we'd do is cash in on Liam Moore at a much reduced price. Then try and thin out the wage bill. I do wonder who would end up staying.
While going down could be a springboard if we do well, there's always the risk of doing a Coventry or Leyton Orient and continue tumbling down. Not sure I could take ending up like Coventry tbh.
Moore, Swift, Kelly will all have their value cut by about half I would think should we go down. We would be in deep, deep sh*t financially, it is a scary thought. I see some people bang on about different away days etc but there is a serious risk of ending up like Coventry like you say.
I'm not saying you are wrong on the finances, but how much of a hit would going down be?
We'd lose some tv money undoubtedly, but we're not on often anyway. Crowds would prob go down, but maybe not by a huge amount if we had a good season (obvs a big if), though there are very few 'big' teams in that division. Though if Swindon and Oxford were in it would help.
Player values would certainly take a hit, but I'd assume we'd get rid of Swift, Aluko, Moore, Ilori, Mannone, Gunter, Barrow and maybe one or two others. The value of the squad would go down hugely, but we'd probably pull in a few quid from that lot. The wage bill would surely be massively slashed.
by linkenholtroyal » 12 Feb 2018 16:11
by alfie9 » 12 Feb 2018 16:21
by Denver Royal » 12 Feb 2018 16:30
linkenholtroyal Something unfortunately out of our hands......
Injuries losing Obita, Swift, Mccleary, Kermorgant early on and Evans, these were all players that I thought were going to be Key this year and have made this season what it has. It has meant that we don't have the competition for places or the quality we would have with them.
Also losing Williams and Al Habsi more Al Habsi out of the pair.
Williams may have not had the finest touch or the best end product but he always put a shift in and showing that commitment makes others do the same. We have missed him this Year.
Don't get me wrong I like Mannone and he is a good keeper but he is not a Leader like Al Habsi was he was always encouraging and giving instructions to the back for and he really did make a real difference and I really think he is the biggest miss this year.
I do think IF we stay in the Championship and IF we have a fit squad next Year, Sign Martin and Elphick permanently. Find a reserve Left Back and Mannone gains some respect of his defence we will be right up there again next season.
The key is staying up then keeping the squad. next year may well be a very good year. There is a long way yet though
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