What is our best team now?

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What is our best team now?

by linkenholtroyal » 28 Feb 2018 11:50

There is a lot of talk about squad selection. If you had to pick our best 11 who would you all pick now after a season of dross.
So best 11 if all fit
Best 11 with current injuries.

All fit. 4 3 2 1
Jaakola
Gunter
Moore
Mcshane
Obita.
Kelly
Swift
Bacuna
Barrow
Bod.
Mccleary

Current squad with players fit 4-3-1-2

Jaakola
Gunter
Richards
Moore
Llori (because I have to)
Bacuna
Swift
Kelly
Barrow (floating behind front 2)
Martin
Bod

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Hound » 28 Feb 2018 12:01

its really difficult to say tbh. I do know its not the dross that turned out last night though

Would prob go for

Mannone
Gunter Moore Ilori Richards
Bacuna
Swift Kelly
McCleary Bod Barrow

possibly with Martin in for Swift or Kelly and 4-4-2 but that would be harsh on Kelly, and Swift is potentially our best player. If you could pin Aluko to the right wing, then maybe him instead of GMac

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Coppells Lost Coat » 28 Feb 2018 12:16

4-2-1-3

Mannone
Gunter Moore Ilori Richards
Edwards Kelly
Swift
Aluko/McCleary** Martin Barrow

**McCleary is only in due to his ability to put a decent cross in, he has been pretty dire, but Aluko is in the same boat - both great players there somewhere.
Evans also just misses out, very tidy player but Kelly just edges it ahead as he has more in his locker.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by paddy20 » 28 Feb 2018 13:06

Coppells Lost Coat wrote:4-2-1-3

Mannone
Gunter Moore Ilori Richards
Edwards Kelly
Swift
Aluko/McCleary** Martin Barrow

**McCleary is only in due to his ability to put a decent cross in, he has been pretty dire, but Aluko is in the same boat - both great players there somewhere.
Evans also just misses out, very tidy player but Kelly just edges it ahead as he has more in his locker.


Maybe Blackett is better than Lori at this moment

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Re: What is our best team now?

by John Smith » 28 Feb 2018 13:09

linkenholtroyal wrote:There is a lot of talk about squad selection. If you had to pick our best 11 who would you all pick now after a season of dross.
So best 11 if all fit
Best 11 with current injuries.

All fit. 4 3 2 1
Jaakola
Gunter
Moore
Mcshane
Obita.
Kelly
Swift
Bacuna
Barrow
Bod.
Mccleary

Current squad with players fit 4-3-1-2

Jaakola
Gunter
Richards
Moore
Llori (because I have to)
Bacuna
Swift
Kelly
Barrow (floating behind front 2)
Martin
Bod

So you'd rather put the sub keeper in who has only played a couple of League Cup games? I take it you weren't at Stevenage away?

And you'd leave out the striker we have with one of the best goal tallys at this level?

Dreamer.


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Re: What is our best team now?

by linkenholtroyal » 28 Feb 2018 13:50

John Smith wrote:
linkenholtroyal wrote:There is a lot of talk about squad selection. If you had to pick our best 11 who would you all pick now after a season of dross.
So best 11 if all fit
Best 11 with current injuries.

All fit. 4 3 2 1
Jaakola
Gunter
Moore
Mcshane
Obita.
Kelly
Swift
Bacuna
Barrow
Bod.
Mccleary

Current squad with players fit 4-3-1-2

Jaakola
Gunter
Richards
Moore
Llori (because I have to)
Bacuna
Swift
Kelly
Barrow (floating behind front 2)
Martin
Bod

So you'd rather put the sub keeper in who has only played a couple of League Cup games? I take it you weren't at Stevenage away?

And you'd leave out the striker we have with one of the best goal tallys at this level?

Dreamer.

Hey no I wasn't at Stevenage but I can't stand mannone at the moment. I would rather stick a broom with a keepers shirt on at the moment than mannone. He has no influence on his defence and can't catch a ball to save his life. Always has to parry.

I guess you mean ketmorgant being left out. I do see your point but he is definitely not what he was last season and bod is in some kind of form.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by CavershamRoyal » 28 Feb 2018 14:02

Probably something like:

Mannone
Gunter - Moore - Ilori - Richards
Bacuna - Kelly
Aluko - Swift - Barrow
Bod

And then the possibility of replacing one of the midfield with Martin to go two up front.

Aluko hasn't been very good, but occasionally shows flashes of being a good player whilst McCleary looks absolutely shot.
Probably would go Obita over Richards if fit and gets back to the level he was at before the injury.

Think we really need another quality CB, considering McShane looks like he won't be a regular any time soon, and Blackett is, well... Blackett. We don't really have any full back cover either.

If I'm honest, I don't think playing our so-called "best team" will make any difference at the moment. The team selection isn't the main issue, it's the complete lack of confidence. The Derby game should have given the squad some belief, but by all accounts it was usual service resumed yesterday. We just need to grind out a couple of 1-0 wins, play with a bit more freedom and try and build some momentum to take us away from the relegation zone and to provide a little bit of impetus for both the players and the fans going in to next season.

Easier said than done, of course.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by pwb » 28 Feb 2018 14:33

Our best team would be one without Stam at the helm!

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Forbury Lion » 28 Feb 2018 14:39

linkenholtroyal wrote:What is our best team now?
Reading Ladies


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by Coppells Lost Coat » 28 Feb 2018 15:22

Forbury Lion wrote:
linkenholtroyal wrote:What is our best team now?
Reading Ladies


Very interesting point, could open the door to boycott Reading games and attend the ladies side instead, still supporting your local team but in a somewhat sideways protest to the mens side.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by SCIAG » 28 Feb 2018 15:38

If everyone was fully fit and at their best:

Mannone; Bacuna, Moore, Ilori, Richards; Kelly, Evans, Swift; McCleary, Martin, Barrow

Left out Elphick (who I haven't seen enough of) and Obita (who is out for the whole season).

Could reasonably select any of the three strikers. Bod is in the best form and Kermie is a great player. Think Martin offers the most, but isn't on his game right now.

Don't rate Bacuna as a defensive midfielder and wouldn't pick him ahead of Swift or Kelly in central midfield, so he goes to right back.

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by Royalwaster » 28 Feb 2018 16:21

SCIAG wrote:If everyone was fully fit and at their best:

Mannone; Bacuna, Moore, Ilori, Richards; Kelly, Evans, Swift; McCleary, Martin, Barrow

Left out Elphick (who I haven't seen enough of) and Obita (who is out for the whole season).

Could reasonably select any of the three strikers. Bod is in the best form and Kermie is a great player. Think Martin offers the most, but isn't on his game right now.

Don't rate Bacuna as a defensive midfielder and wouldn't pick him ahead of Swift or Kelly in central midfield, so he goes to right back.


Seems like most people agree ... but Stam persists to see it differently.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Denver Royal » 28 Feb 2018 18:33

SCIAG wrote:Don't rate Bacuna as a defensive midfielder and wouldn't pick him ahead of Swift or Kelly in central midfield, so he goes to right back.


SCIAG, that's interesting because there was a lot of clamor for Bacuna in midfield, but now it's suggested he gets sent back to right-back. And unless he unseats Gunter there, Leandro Bacuna doesn't even get in this team? And that's even before Elphick gets back.
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Re: What is our best team now?

by Lower West » 28 Feb 2018 19:19

linkenholtroyal wrote:There is a lot of talk about squad selection. If you had to pick our best 11 who would you all pick now after a season of dross.
So best 11 if all fit
Best 11 with current injuries.

All fit. 4 3 2 1
Jaakola
Gunter
Moore
Mcshane
Obita.
Kelly
Swift
Bacuna
Barrow
Bod.
Mccleary

Current squad with players fit 4-3-1-2

Jaakola
Gunter
Richards
Moore
Llori (because I have to)
Bacuna
Swift
Kelly
Barrow (floating behind front 2)
Martin
Bod


Kelly lacks an ability to impose himself on the game. To play him we need more firepower in midfield. With Swift also in the team too lightweight. Bacuna needs a partner , something we just don't have.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by tidus_mi2 » 28 Feb 2018 20:11

I'll go for:

Mannone
Gunter, Moore, McShane, Obita
Bacuna, Swift, Kelly
Barrow, Aluko
Bod

Maybe McCleary for Aluko and Kermorgant for Bod but it's hard to gauge as those two have been out injured for a while now.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by PistolPete » 28 Feb 2018 20:15

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:!: If (when) we need a goal, we take off Illori or Blackett for Swift.
:!: Blackett is only a left sided defender as part of a 3. Illori cast be trusted as part of a 2. Van den Berg can't be trusted.
:!:Evans could play instead of Illori in the 3rd centre back/anchorman midfielder role - a bit like Michael Hector did for us for a while.
:!:Mannone is no Ali, but he's better than Jaakkola.
:!:Kermorgant, Quinn and McCleary are done.
:!:Mendes, Obita and Harriott need to get ready for next season, maybe with Meite too.
:!:Clement just isn't the right player for a dogfight.
:!:Elphick might just be useful by the ned of the season.
:!:Martin can come on for Bod when he's run himself into the ground - shame it won't ever be the other way around.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Victor Meldrew » 28 Feb 2018 20:26

In rely to the o.p. I would have Mo and Richards as definite starters plus 9 others with preferably not a Dutch player in sight.
For whatever reason Liam Moore has this season been a moderate centre-back.
Last season he was a colossus but this season he has become ordinary.

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Re: What is our best team now?

by John Smith » 01 Mar 2018 12:04

Some incredible cluelessness here: Tommy Elphick and Chris Martin are the first names on the team sheet when fit - how is that not clearly apparent to all of you on here?

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Re: What is our best team now?

by Snowball » 01 Mar 2018 12:20

John Smith wrote:Some incredible cluelessness here: Tommy Elphick and Chris Martin are the first names on the team sheet when fit - how is that not clearly apparent to all of you on here?




Yes, TBF, Martin's 17 goals have made one heck of a difference

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Re: What is our best team now?

by russyb » 01 Mar 2018 12:26

paddy20 wrote:
Coppells Lost Coat wrote:4-2-1-3

Mannone
Gunter Moore Ilori Richards
Edwards Kelly
Swift
Aluko/McCleary** Martin Barrow

**McCleary is only in due to his ability to put a decent cross in, he has been pretty dire, but Aluko is in the same boat - both great players there somewhere.
Evans also just misses out, very tidy player but Kelly just edges it ahead as he has more in his locker.


Maybe Blackett is better than Lori at this moment


I Think Blackett would be much better off playing as a centre half anyway and should be considered an option there. Also the young player Arenderssen (is it?)

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