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by Brum Royal » 03 Apr 2018 22:57

Well that was a bit of an odd game. At 0-0 with 11 men we looked like being competitive, albeit set up to keep it tight and play for 0-0 and hitting on the break. Edwards sending off I thought was a little harsh, the first was a justified yellow (sliding through the back of a man on the counter attack and getting more man than ball), the second I thought the ref might have been a bit more lenient on - another challenge from behind, but looked like Edwards tried to pull out of it and definitely didn't go through with studs showing or high. From then on it was purely a game of attack v defence, with the two Villa CBs playing largely on the halfway line for much of the last hour.

The defending and keeping I thought tonight was full of commitment, vital blocks, clearances and headers all over the place. We looked committed, and Villa's weight of numbers eventually told as we still played for damage limitation. In the end we had Vito to thank for a string of what must have been 6 or 7 really, really good saves tonight to keep the scoreline respectable. With a lesser keeper tonight we could have leaked 6,7 or 8 given the volume of chances Villa created second half. The only blot on his copy book was the failure to clear for the third goal, but given the rest of his game I'll let him off.

Vito - 8 despitebeing guilty for the third
Blackett - 5, generally pretty solid, left far too over exposed by Barrow first half
Moore - 6, lots of clearances, especially first half
Illori - 6, see Moore
Gunter - 5, average, one really good low cross in to the box second half
Edwards - 4, two sloppy tackles, maybe harsh to get a red as mentioned above, but looked clumsy most of the night
Evans - 5, where is our Evans of last season? largely anonymous in a rearguard action
Bacuna - 4, another fairly anonymous performance in central midfield
Barrow - 2, one counter attacking break resulting in a blocked shot in the second half aside, he was an absolute passenger tonight, left Blackett exposed so often first half against Snodgrass, who just hugged the touchline and had 15 yards to himself for much of the first half. When pushed up front second half, did little to close down defenders when they had the ball, just jogged around in the vicinity of play. I like Barrow a lot, but tonight he was awful
Aluko - 5, worked hard, and at least protected Gunter more than Barrow did
Smith - 4, tried hard but just got outmuscled and outthought by two experienced centre backs tonight. Terry v Smith was actual men against boys - he'll learn a lot from tonight I hope.

Kelly - 5, not a great back pass for their third goal
Martin - 5, put himself about a bit, largely ineffectively
Clement (player) - 5, one of his better performances from the games I've seen this year, looked quite lively and put himself about a bit

Clement (boss) - 5, thought the changes were the right ones at the time, Smith did little up top, and Martin won a few headers more than Smith did. Barrow going up top against two slow defenders was a good idea and had we still got 11 on the pitch could have worked even better

Overall a frustrating night as what could have been an opportunity to take a point from a misfiring Villa became a comfortable win for them after the sending off, and once the first goal went in was just going to be a matter or how many we could restrict them too. Given the amount of chances Villa had, 3-0 is actually a bit of let off.

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by Snowball » 03 Apr 2018 23:02

2 games, one shot on target.

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by Zip » 03 Apr 2018 23:07

Snowball wrote:2 games, one shot on target.


With very few chances created whîlst the opposition have totalled over 50 shots. It will be interesting to see how Clement sets us up on Saturday. We are big underdogs in most of our games these days.

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by leon » 03 Apr 2018 23:26

Zip wrote:
Snowball wrote:2 games, one shot on target.


With very few chances created whîlst the opposition have totalled over 50 shots. It will be interesting to see how Clement sets us up on Saturday. We are big underdogs in most of our games these days.


Just shows what a shit state Stam left us in.

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by CountryRoyal » 03 Apr 2018 23:30

I don’t know what to say to that Brum. Suffice to say I disagree, hugely.

I think it flatters us to suggest that Edwards’ red card was the turning point. From what I saw we showed no desire to partake in the game and no willingness to even remotely compete, we came for a draw but if we lost we lost and we were hardly going to try and do anything differently. Disgusting performance. Should have just called VIlla and the EFL before hand and forfeited, taken the -3 GD and not wasted any energy. I would have preferred not to come put it that way.

Mannone 6 - several good saves to keep the score down, even though the backpass from kelly wasn’t great was at fault for our second, distribution poor and nonsensical. Kept lumping it up to Smith and then Barrow.

Gunter 1 - wasn’t sure what he was doing but it wasn’t playing football, might as well have not been there.

Ilori 4

Moore 4

Blackett 2 - hopeless, abject, useless.

Bacuna 5 - wanted it more than most but utterly ineffective

Edwards 0 - to make that challenge after he’d already been booked so early on is just criminal. Terrible excuse for a footballer.

Evans 4 - meh

Aluko 2 - did oxf*rd all

Smith 2 - effort was there but can’t give him a high score because he didn’t oxf*rd do anything, barely touched the ball, he’s not a oxf*rd target man ffs why did we keep lumping the ball up to him, if it went on the floor it’s was so hard it’s was almost impossible to do control, felt sorry for him, had no support.

Barrow 4 - ran a lot, completely ineffective.

Subs:

Martin 0 - waste of space
Clement 3
Kelly 4 - poor backpass to Mannone, some energy but didn’t contribute a lot.

Honestly we surrendered the ball at every available opportunity almost on purpose and showed no willingness to attempt to win it back, it was 3 nil until we decided to have a go and even that was an embarrassing effort. If Clements “tactic” is to sit back and not compete for the remainder of the season then oxf*rd me were in for a hell of a journey,

oxf*rd oxf*rd pcunt shit. oxf*rd bollocks. oxf*rd off.


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by windermereROYAL » 03 Apr 2018 23:37

CountryRoyal wrote:I don’t know what to say to that Brum. Suffice to say I disagree, hugely.

I think it flatters us to suggest that Edwards’ red card was the turning point. From what I saw we showed no desire to partake in the game and no willingness to even remotely compete, we came for a draw but if we lost we lost and we were hardly going to try and do anything differently. Disgusting performance. Should have just called VIlla and the EFL before hand and forfeited, taken the -3 GD and not wasted any energy. I would have preferred not to come put it that way.

Mannone 6 - several good saves to keep the score down, even though the backpass from kelly wasn’t great was at fault for our second, distribution poor and nonsensical. Kept lumping it up to Smith and then Barrow.

Gunter 1 - wasn’t sure what he was doing but it wasn’t playing football, might as well have not been there.

Ilori 4

Moore 4

Blackett 2 - hopeless, abject, useless.

Bacuna 5 - wanted it more than most but utterly ineffective

Edwards 0 - to make that challenge after he’d already been booked so early on is just criminal. Terrible excuse for a footballer.

Evans 4 - meh

Aluko 2 - did oxf*rd all

Smith 2 - effort was there but can’t give him a high score because he didn’t oxf*rd do anything, barely touched the ball, he’s not a oxf*rd target man ffs why did we keep lumping the ball up to him, if it went on the floor it’s was so hard it’s was almost impossible to do control, felt sorry for him, had no support.

Barrow 4 - ran a lot, completely ineffective.

Subs:

Martin 0 - waste of space
Clement 3
Kelly 4 - poor backpass to Mannone, some energy but didn’t contribute a lot.

Honestly we surrendered the ball at every available opportunity almost on purpose and showed no willingness to attempt to win it back, it was 3 nil until we decided to have a go and even that was an embarrassing effort. If Clements “tactic” is to sit back and not compete for the remainder of the season then oxf*rd me were in for a hell of a journey,

oxf*rd oxf*rd pcunt shit. oxf*rd bollocks. oxf*rd off.


Don`t hold back. just tell us what you really mean.

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by retro royal » 03 Apr 2018 23:40

Pretty poor display, shows how poor our last few transfer windows have been, haven't seen Edwards do anything except be a spokesman to the evening post trying to flog his book, terrible signing and tonight looked lost before his sending off.

Blackett well, what's he doing playing left back is beyond me, turns his back on the crosser nearly every time, this was very apparent 2nd half.

Smith felt for him, young lad not ready to play at this level, but we're forced to after Stams lack of strike force that he started with in the summer.

Aluko, well a fluke goal Friday, back to his usual look down at floor routine.

Can't go on, just very little to be positive about this side, to be honest I'd almost enjoy going down having a total clearout, bringing in more of the youth and pushing on next year (that's if anyone wants to help us get rid of this dead wood we seem to have collected)

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by CountryRoyal » 03 Apr 2018 23:44

windermereROYAL wrote:Don`t hold back. just tell us what you really mean.


I’m doing “alcohol free april” and it’s painful watching us sober. :lol:

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by blueroyals » 03 Apr 2018 23:47

At least under Stam we'd retain the ball and make the other team work for it, and I'm sure we'd have managed more than the 1 shot on target we've had in the last 2 games...


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by windermereROYAL » 03 Apr 2018 23:49

I`m wondering what Mendes has to do to get a start?, throwing a young kid in against John Terry is just criminal. at least Mendes can put himself about a bit.
I`ve got a feeling Clement is getting bad advice from the coaching staff that didn`t leave with Stam because the same faults are still there.

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by CountryRoyal » 03 Apr 2018 23:51

blueroyals wrote:At least under Stam we'd retain the ball and make the other team work for it, and I'm sure we'd have managed more than the 1 shot on target we've had in the last 2 games...


I was thinking the exact same thing. I’d rather be bored to death watching us pass it around the back 4 and concede the inevitable goal then completely surrender possession and watch us concede 55 (FIFTY FIVE) shots in our last two games.

Obviously Stam had to go, but come on someone needs to tell the players they’re allowed to go for it wtf.

It was a training game. Attack V defence.

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by windermereROYAL » 03 Apr 2018 23:56

CountryRoyal wrote:
blueroyals wrote:At least under Stam we'd retain the ball and make the other team work for it, and I'm sure we'd have managed more than the 1 shot on target we've had in the last 2 games...


I was thinking the exact same thing. I’d rather be bored to death watching us pass it around the back 4 and concede the inevitable goal then completely surrender possession and watch us concede 55 (FIFTY FIVE) shots in our last two games.

Obviously Stam had to go, but come on someone needs to tell the players they’re allowed to go for it wtf.

It was a training game. Attack V defence.


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by alfie9 » 04 Apr 2018 00:03

We were woeful even before the sending off. Paul Clement has already had a noticeable impact on the defensive organization, which was a massive improvement in the first half. He's got a massive job on his hands.


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by windermereROYAL » 04 Apr 2018 00:11

Nobody is turning on Clement yet after 2 games. basically he came in blindfolded, had to take advice from the coaching staff that didn`t leave with Stam. but Stevie Wonder could tell him Blackett isn't a footballer.

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by genome » 04 Apr 2018 00:16

It's taken two games, one of those against a top four side, one of those a win, for people to start saying they'd have preferred Stam in being charge :lol:

Football fans don't know what they want.

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by Zip » 04 Apr 2018 00:18

[quote="windermereROYAL"]Nobody is turning on Clement yet after 2 games. basically he came in blindfolded, had to take advice from the coaching staff that didn`t leave with Stam. but Stevie Wonder could tell him Blackett isn't a footballer.[/quote]

He joined a ship that had already sunk. We have been been atrocious for nearly four months. No one can blame Clement but I am concerned that he is setting us up to absorb pressure and try and hit on the counter even at home. Our possession stats are worrying. If we haven’t got the ball we are not going to win matches.

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by genome » 04 Apr 2018 00:27

He's just trying to get us points by hook or by crook. It worked on Friday. I don't really care how we play, we could play the most negative football in existence but if it gets us enough points to stay up then I'm happy.

As soon as Edwards got sent off, I presume tonight's game plan went completely out of the window.

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by CountryRoyal » 04 Apr 2018 00:43

genome wrote:It's taken two games, one of those against a top four side, one of those a win, for people to start saying they'd have preferred Stam in being charge :lol:

Football fans don't know what they want.


Literally no one said that.

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by genome » 04 Apr 2018 08:32

CountryRoyal wrote:
genome wrote:It's taken two games, one of those against a top four side, one of those a win, for people to start saying they'd have preferred Stam in being charge :lol:

Football fans don't know what they want.


Literally no one said that.


Not you, but I’ve seen it around on social media. And others suddenly piping up saying they’re not fans of Clement. You did say you’d rather be watching Stam’s style though.

I wouldn’t read too much into the style of football we are playing at this point.

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by loyalroyal4life » 04 Apr 2018 08:41

windermereROYAL wrote:Nobody is turning on Clement yet after 2 games. basically he came in blindfolded, had to take advice from the coaching staff that didn`t leave with Stam. but Stevie Wonder could tell him Blackett isn't a footballer.



:lol:

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