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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 18 Aug 2018 20:16

I was going to start a Clement out thread as a joke. You beat me to it.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by BR0B0T » 18 Aug 2018 20:30

2 world wars, 1 world cup wrote:I was going to start a Clement out thread as a joke. You beat me to it.


unfortunately it's not a joking matter

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by AthleticoSpizz » 18 Aug 2018 20:34

Jeez Brosef

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Ascotexgunner » 18 Aug 2018 20:46

From the day he was appointed I'm still wondering what his credentials were.
Apart from carrying the cones and bibs for Ancelotti he's done nothing......and looks like continuing that record here.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Scutterbucketz » 18 Aug 2018 20:50

Ascotexgunner wrote:From the day he was appointed I'm still wondering what his credentials were.
Apart from carrying the cones and bibs for Ancelotti he's done nothing......and looks like continuing that record here.


It was Ancelotti though.


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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by windermereROYAL » 18 Aug 2018 20:59

I`m surprised how sacking managers is always the suggested ways to solve all the clubs problems, Birmingham have had 5 since they sacked Gary Rowett, since then 17 wins in 74 games,
Clement can only work with the tools at his disposal. and quite frankly most of them or not up to the job. letting Evans go to Derby and relying on Meyler in defensive midfield is truly tragic.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by sandman » 18 Aug 2018 21:04

Ascotexgunner wrote:From the day he was appointed I'm still wondering what his credentials were.
Apart from carrying the cones and bibs for Ancelotti he's done nothing......and looks like continuing that record here.


Zidane also used to carry the cones and bibs for Ancelotti.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Avon Royal » 18 Aug 2018 21:07

sandman wrote:
Ascotexgunner wrote:From the day he was appointed I'm still wondering what his credentials were.
Apart from carrying the cones and bibs for Ancelotti he's done nothing......and looks like continuing that record here.


Zidane also used to carry the cones and bibs for Ancelotti.


I think the “he’s done nothing” bit is the key differentiator here.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Hound » 18 Aug 2018 21:18

Evans was poor here and would have fitted in very well with that performance today

Let’s not pretend otherwise


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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Zip » 18 Aug 2018 21:22

Hound wrote:Evans was poor here and would have fitted in very well with that performance today

Let’s not pretend otherwise


Yep. History being rewritten here. Evans was very poor last season.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Ascotexgunner » 18 Aug 2018 21:23

windermereROYAL wrote:I`m surprised how sacking managers is always the suggested ways to solve all the clubs problems, Birmingham have had 5 since they sacked Gary Rowett, since then 17 wins in 74 games,
Clement can only work with the tools at his disposal. and quite frankly most of them or not up to the job. letting Evans go to Derby and relying on Meyler in defensive midfield is truly tragic.


You argue against sacking the manager but the examples thrown up really doesn't help your cause. Both those decisions came under his watch.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by sandman » 18 Aug 2018 21:24

Avon Royal wrote:
sandman wrote:
Ascotexgunner wrote:From the day he was appointed I'm still wondering what his credentials were.
Apart from carrying the cones and bibs for Ancelotti he's done nothing......and looks like continuing that record here.


Zidane also used to carry the cones and bibs for Ancelotti.


I think the “he’s done nothing” bit is the key differentiator here.


Indeed.

But then the post also suggests Clement merely carried bibs and cones which is simply untrue.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by WAZZOCK » 18 Aug 2018 21:32

Royal_jimmy wrote:The issue is far above the manager. We are suffering because of poor signings, poor board and managerial appointments.

The Dai's, Gourlay and Tevreden need to go.


Not Tevreden, he has been stitched up as much as the rest of us.


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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Lower West » 18 Aug 2018 21:38

Zip wrote:
Hound wrote:Evans was poor here and would have fitted in very well with that performance today

Let’s not pretend otherwise


Yep. History being rewritten here. Evans was very poor last season.



Likewise JVB, Kelly, Edwards. They made more appearances too.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Aug 2018 22:04

leon wrote:
Hound wrote:I feel we got into such a rut under Stam that it was always going to take a while to sort things out

Pleased Clement has taken a bit of responsibly as he messed up badly today. But it’s too soon to talk about sacking him.

We don’t play like we did under Stam. Confuses me when people say that. We played poorly today but we move the ball quicker, more directly and do not play the possession at all costs game. I don’t think we play any sort of slow passing game now and are Better to watch, if not much more successful for it


Second half we did. It was appalling.
The lack of any intensity was shocking. We came out second half as if we’d been drugged.


Disagree, though not that it was appalling. Under Stam there would have been far more passing between Moore, McShane and Mannone. We certainly weren't pumping it forward at all, which we should have done on occasion and certainly in the last few minutes. And in any case, faffing around with it at the back is because the midfielders aren't sharp enough to hit the first time passes to the forwards runs so they stop running, and everyone is static and no pass on. It's not a deliberate ploy.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Denver Royal » 18 Aug 2018 22:45

Unlike some, was less than thrilled with Clement post-match. Basically threw players under the bus, heads will roll, etc. It’s his team and tactics, can only pull that stuff for so long. Assume he’s looking for reaction, we’ll see. In general, rather a manager who defends his players publically. Not sure he has ‘credit in the bank’ to be giving it large anyway. Talk is just that, talk. His record in management is less than stellar and he needs to do his talking with results.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Aug 2018 22:54

Denver Royal wrote:Unlike some, was less than thrilled with Clement post-match. Basically threw players under the bus, heads will roll, etc. it’s his team and tactics, can only pull that stuff for so long. Assume he’s looking for a reaction, and we’ll see. But in general I’d rather a manager who defends his players publically, and not sure he has enough ‘credit in the bank’ to be giving it large anyway. His record in management is less than stellar and he needs to do his talking with results.


Who exactly did he throw under the bus? The performance was poor - he admitted he made some wrong choices but ultimately it was the 11 on the pitch who didn't do enough. I thought his post match assessment was spot on and they generally have been. Much better than the bollocks Stam would spew blaming the fans or Adkins who would claim everything was brilliant.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Jagermesiter1871 » 18 Aug 2018 22:54

strap wrote:I'm saying nothing.

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Bit harsh consdiering the shambles and lack of funds he's had to work with.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by AthleticoSpizz » 18 Aug 2018 22:57

Think Adkins and McD had it worse tbf...early days, so it’s all irrelevant anyway.

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Re: Clement OUT!!!!

by Lower West » 18 Aug 2018 23:01

Denver Royal wrote:can only pull that stuff for so long.


I'd prefer that this comes to a head at the beginning of the season. When's there's still plenty of time to perm a team out of this squad. We've a number of players yet to return from injury. Far from down and out.

Going to take time for the forwards to forge an understanding. At least there's glimpses of something. Which was totally lacking last season.

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