by Hound » 16 Sep 2018 20:10
by Zip » 16 Sep 2018 20:51
by Nameless » 16 Sep 2018 21:09
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I`m surprised they count blocked shots in those stats too, saw it in the paper this morning, had 5 blocked, it wasn`t plus it was included . 8 off target 10 on target, agree thats alot.
In a number of games we seemto have conceded a lot of shots however we have actually been defending reasonably well and a lot of the shots are hopeful long range efforts.
As with many football stats the numbers are fairly meaningless.
I’d say it is much more impressive to score a number of goals from a lowish number of shots than few goals from lots of shots.
If you look at the Championship Team Stats on Whoscored, we're 7th in terms of the teams with the highest percentage of shots conceded outside the box.
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by From Despair To Where? » 16 Sep 2018 21:28
Lower WestFrom Despair To Where? It will be interesting to see where Ezatolahi fits into Clement's plans. It sounds like he could add a bit of steel and solidity to midfield which is what we need.
Will he make the grade? A player with potential. Unlikely to be a saviour.
by leon » 16 Sep 2018 21:57
From Despair To Where?Lower WestFrom Despair To Where? It will be interesting to see where Ezatolahi fits into Clement's plans. It sounds like he could add a bit of steel and solidity to midfield which is what we need.
Will he make the grade? A player with potential. Unlikely to be a saviour.
Doesn't need to be a saviour, just needs to provide the bit of grit that we've been missing since Danny Williams left.
by Snowflake Royal » 16 Sep 2018 22:23
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In a number of games we seemto have conceded a lot of shots however we have actually been defending reasonably well and a lot of the shots are hopeful long range efforts.
As with many football stats the numbers are fairly meaningless.
I’d say it is much more impressive to score a number of goals from a lowish number of shots than few goals from lots of shots.
If you look at the Championship Team Stats on Whoscored, we're 7th in terms of the teams with the highest percentage of shots conceded outside the box.
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Like many modern stats I,m not really sure what that means !
Do you mean absolute numbers of shots rather than % ?
Or do you mean % outside the box compared to inside ?
by Stranded » 17 Sep 2018 08:53
by Dr_Hfuhruhurr » 17 Sep 2018 15:07
Stranded If you put any stock in xG, shows we did a little bit of a smash and grab on Preston who xG suggests should have won 3-2 (2.5xG V 1.5) rather than lost. Will take that any day of the week though.
Important to get off the mark - and with 2 other teams who have struggled so far this season coming up at home, a chance to start to build a little bit of form before we have to go to Griffin Park.
Most impressive thing at the mo is we are starting to look very had to beat away from home. Arguably unlucky at Forest and then undefeated in 3 on the road, scoring 6 in the process. If we can keep being solid away and sort out home form, then we will be comfortable.
by John Smith » 17 Sep 2018 15:29
Dr_HfuhruhurrStranded If you put any stock in xG, shows we did a little bit of a smash and grab on Preston who xG suggests should have won 3-2 (2.5xG V 1.5) rather than lost. Will take that any day of the week though.
Important to get off the mark - and with 2 other teams who have struggled so far this season coming up at home, a chance to start to build a little bit of form before we have to go to Griffin Park.
Most impressive thing at the mo is we are starting to look very had to beat away from home. Arguably unlucky at Forest and then undefeated in 3 on the road, scoring 6 in the process. If we can keep being solid away and sort out home form, then we will be comfortable.
Before we get carried away, I think we need to appreciate that Preston have their own problems at the moment, so this win is difficult to gauge. But with two home games against moderate opposition coming up, there seems to be an opportunity here to overturn our dismal form. But lets be honest, we've been seeing us miss these opportunities for a year now, the team actually have to start doing something for me to start to believe. Pure hope has got me nowhere for quite some time now. I cant see how we can be considered 'comfortable' with a grand tally of zero points at home.
by Stranded » 17 Sep 2018 15:36
John SmithDr_HfuhruhurrStranded If you put any stock in xG, shows we did a little bit of a smash and grab on Preston who xG suggests should have won 3-2 (2.5xG V 1.5) rather than lost. Will take that any day of the week though.
Important to get off the mark - and with 2 other teams who have struggled so far this season coming up at home, a chance to start to build a little bit of form before we have to go to Griffin Park.
Most impressive thing at the mo is we are starting to look very had to beat away from home. Arguably unlucky at Forest and then undefeated in 3 on the road, scoring 6 in the process. If we can keep being solid away and sort out home form, then we will be comfortable.
Before we get carried away, I think we need to appreciate that Preston have their own problems at the moment, so this win is difficult to gauge. But with two home games against moderate opposition coming up, there seems to be an opportunity here to overturn our dismal form. But lets be honest, we've been seeing us miss these opportunities for a year now, the team actually have to start doing something for me to start to believe. Pure hope has got me nowhere for quite some time now. I cant see how we can be considered 'comfortable' with a grand tally of zero points at home.
It's quite clear neither of you went to the game (unlike me) and therefore have no idea about what actually happened. Stats boy seems to think we should have lost - we were miles the better side and only rode our luck when they hit the woodwork. I thought the goalkeeper was immense, Leandro Bacuna was immense and showed his obvious Premier League class and there was a general sense of belief throughout the squad we haven't seen up until now, probably since the turn of the year.
I really think this will be a turning point and we can expect another three points on Wednesday when an equally poor [as Preston] side roll into town.
by KC Royal » 18 Sep 2018 08:17
Snowflake RoyalZipHound Just from the highlights, couple of nice bits of play by Swift
I don’t mind him and Bacuna in the middle - have a bit of dynamism and creativity about them. Be interested to see how Kelly played
Lovely bit of play by Sims on the third - laid it on a plate.
That bit of play by their #12 on their first goal was comically inept. Kind of thing we are used to seeing tbh
Yes it was good to see Sims deciding to take the ball to the by line and cut it back for Bacuna. Decent through ball by Swift to Baldock who supplied a decent finish. Lovely backheel by Swift and good work by Aluko with Ilori quick off the mark for our second goal.
I thought our first goal looked a little suspect. Swift jumped all over the Preston player who stopped, and then a hint of possible offside for Baldock. I'm not complaining though.
I saw the second half and Kelly and Swift both showed more of what they're capable of, but still flashes of the things people don't like about them. Didn't see Bacuna do much wrong, which is a positive after what I've thought were some pretty lackluster displays from him recently. And all of them contributed to our goals.
Swift played to the whistle and won the ball, then played a good pass through to Baldock to finish.
Swift combined well with Aluko at a short corner for Sone to cross for Ilori to score.
Bacuna broke forward well with a good pass to Kelly, who played a good pass to Sims, who put in a good cross for Bacuna to finish.
Swift was also close to another goal from (I think) a peach of a Kelly cross.
I fear it wouldn't take much for that midfield to have another terrible day at home and get out fought and overrun. But it also ought to be a pretty top combination in this division if they all find some form and play to close to their potential.
I find it difficult to criticise Aluko too strongly for this game given he got an assist at a time when we could easily have folded and gone on to lose.
The balance with the front three / four isn't quite there yet, but that result will have done us the world of good. We just have to string it together with another good performance and result at home. I'm not sure another score draw is good enough but I'd take it, a 0-0 would be fine and a win would be excellent. If we can do the miraculous and get three wins on the bounce, or two and a draw - hopefully with a clean sheet somewhere, that would be amazing.
by NewCorkSeth » 18 Sep 2018 08:34
John SmithDr_HfuhruhurrStranded If you put any stock in xG, shows we did a little bit of a smash and grab on Preston who xG suggests should have won 3-2 (2.5xG V 1.5) rather than lost. Will take that any day of the week though.
Important to get off the mark - and with 2 other teams who have struggled so far this season coming up at home, a chance to start to build a little bit of form before we have to go to Griffin Park.
Most impressive thing at the mo is we are starting to look very had to beat away from home. Arguably unlucky at Forest and then undefeated in 3 on the road, scoring 6 in the process. If we can keep being solid away and sort out home form, then we will be comfortable.
Before we get carried away, I think we need to appreciate that Preston have their own problems at the moment, so this win is difficult to gauge. But with two home games against moderate opposition coming up, there seems to be an opportunity here to overturn our dismal form. But lets be honest, we've been seeing us miss these opportunities for a year now, the team actually have to start doing something for me to start to believe. Pure hope has got me nowhere for quite some time now. I cant see how we can be considered 'comfortable' with a grand tally of zero points at home.
It's quite clear neither of you went to the game (unlike me) and therefore have no idea about what actually happened. Stats boy seems to think we should have lost - we were miles the better side and only rode our luck when they hit the woodwork. I thought the goalkeeper was immense, Leandro Bacuna was immense and showed his obvious Premier League class and there was a general sense of belief throughout the squad we haven't seen up until now, probably since the turn of the year.
I really think this will be a turning point and we can expect another three points on Wednesday when an equally poor [as Preston] side roll into town.
by Hound » 18 Sep 2018 08:46
by NewCorkSeth » 18 Sep 2018 08:52
Hound for the first goal, that was never a foul in a million years. Awful play from the #12, leaned into Swift, bent over and then stopped still looking at the ref.
Kind of thing I've come to expect of Aluko or Gunter on a particularly poor day
by KC Royal » 18 Sep 2018 09:06
NewCorkSethHound for the first goal, that was never a foul in a million years. Awful play from the #12, leaned into Swift, bent over and then stopped still looking at the ref.
Kind of thing I've come to expect of Aluko or Gunter on a particularly poor day
File it under "seen em given" the ref could easiĺy have stopped play there.
Oh by the way nobody is talking about Yiadoms penalty shout? I only saw it once but it didn't look like a dive to me? Anyone have any opinions? (Lol)
by Don't Panic » 18 Sep 2018 11:37
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