by windermereROYAL » 04 Oct 2018 15:54
by Sanguine » 04 Oct 2018 16:27
by Hound » 04 Oct 2018 16:47
by Elm Park Kid » 04 Oct 2018 16:50
by Sanguine » 04 Oct 2018 16:59
Elm Park Kid Whether relegation hurts or helps you in the long run is 99% down to the finances of the club and owners. If they have the capacity and willingness to fund us whilst we're in League One it would probably be ok.
You can say we have players that are too good for the league and will leave, but ask yourself who would in the Championship would match our wages for players who have just been relegated? Obviously Moore goes but the rest of the squad? People at the end of their contracts will go (and with relegation release clauses) but otherwise I think most of them stay if they get the impression from the club that they are looking to bounce back.
Then we would actually have an opportunity to win games and get some success. A decent run through the season will give the manager (whoever they are) to establish a stable team and a winning mentality. Then when you go back up people start talking about you as the 'dark horse' and are able to attract those players looking for promotion.
by John Smith » 04 Oct 2018 17:03
windermereROYAL Yes still early days but nothings seems to change does it? with a likely defeat at the baggies on Saturday we could arguably be back in the bottom 3
5 wins in 2018 is a shameful stat and unless improvement is forthcoming we will almost certainly be playing league 1 football next season.
by Hopeful » 04 Oct 2018 17:10
by windermereROYAL » 04 Oct 2018 17:12
John SmithwindermereROYAL Yes still early days but nothings seems to change does it? with a likely defeat at the baggies on Saturday we could arguably be back in the bottom 3
5 wins in 2018 is a shameful stat and unless improvement is forthcoming we will almost certainly be playing league 1 football next season.
I'm not even going to entertain responding to this topic with utter drivel posting like what I've just read here ^
What the hell are you on about you daft clown?
by windermereROYAL » 04 Oct 2018 17:17
Hopeful Less income (gate receipts/merchandise) resulting in having to pay lower wages, means attracting a different type of player, plus being in lower League means we wouldn't be competitive in trying to get the players the fans crave.
In addition, reducing resources of club infrastructure (pitch maintenance/marketing/funding for academy) will have a knock-on effect, plus less coverage means less TV revenue, resulting in further reductions.
To counter some of this, the cost of "stuff" e.g. pints / programmes / merchandise would possibly go up.
On the plus side, it would mean more parking being available and perhaps easier queues at half-time to buy a pie. So, not all doom and gloom.
And we may win more than we lose. Then, again, we may not.
by muirinho » 04 Oct 2018 17:26
Kulshaw72RFC It will be a bad thing if the owners and Gormlessly stay.
The sooner the pfuck off the better. I would not mind going down to L1 much, IF we make a success of it. Bring in Loader, Nova, Walker 1st team GK, Yiadom etc.
by NewCorkSeth » 04 Oct 2018 17:38
by Sutekh » 04 Oct 2018 17:40
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2018 18:42
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Oct 2018 18:47
Sanguine Yes, it would be a bad thing. The specific 'problem' we have is not quite that our players aren't good enough, and I'd argue that Stam's squad was even better, but that they are under-performing. In the event that we go down, they all leave, almost to a man. Does Bodvarsson stay and play in League One when he has Iceland ambitions? Does Swift, who has obvious technical ability but needs better coaching, play in League One or does he join another Championship side? And Mannone, Moore, Ilori, O'Shea, Gunter, Yiadom, Barrow, Bacuna, Blackett. All Championship level players, or better.
If we go down, I'd say we're building a team around Walker, Omar Richards, maybe Gunts, Meite, McNulty, Callum Harriot, and maybe Aluko if no-one will have him, but we'd probably look to shed his wages. Less money coming into the club, which means half the matchday squad is from the academy.
None of this is necessarily a bad thing, but it would certainly be 'back to square one', with promotion not even visible in the distance.
by leon » 04 Oct 2018 19:02
Snowflake RoyalSanguine Yes, it would be a bad thing. The specific 'problem' we have is not quite that our players aren't good enough, and I'd argue that Stam's squad was even better, but that they are under-performing. In the event that we go down, they all leave, almost to a man. Does Bodvarsson stay and play in League One when he has Iceland ambitions? Does Swift, who has obvious technical ability but needs better coaching, play in League One or does he join another Championship side? And Mannone, Moore, Ilori, O'Shea, Gunter, Yiadom, Barrow, Bacuna, Blackett. All Championship level players, or better.
If we go down, I'd say we're building a team around Walker, Omar Richards, maybe Gunts, Meite, McNulty, Callum Harriot, and maybe Aluko if no-one will have him, but we'd probably look to shed his wages. Less money coming into the club, which means half the matchday squad is from the academy.
None of this is necessarily a bad thing, but it would certainly be 'back to square one', with promotion not even visible in the distance.
Interesting. You see a player exodus as a negative, whereas i see it as essential no matter the division.
Besides, an exodus on the level you describe is extremely unlikely. These players would all have to find Championship clubs who wanted them, were prepared to pay us for them and willing to offer them wages comparative to what they are stealing here. Simply won't happen for the majority.
by Royal_jimmy » 04 Oct 2018 19:25
by windermereROYAL » 04 Oct 2018 19:32
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