by Denver Royal » 25 Oct 2018 21:29
by Coppells Lost Coat » 26 Oct 2018 08:45
by Hoop Blah » 26 Oct 2018 09:03
by Coppells Lost Coat » 26 Oct 2018 09:13
Old Man Andrews Having a child isn't an excuse to be unprofessional. Barrow and the other first teamers are probably "working" on average 5 hours a day, it's not like Barrow is a junior doctor working 18 hour shifts is it. Barrow and Clement fell out before and I would guess it has something to do with his effort in training and matches, Clement is demanding more from Barrow and I am all for that. Mo Barrow is no doubt very talented but is a lazy sod, we have all seen it. If Clement can't tolerate that then it will only end one way.
by From Despair To Where? » 26 Oct 2018 09:22
by Snowball » 26 Oct 2018 09:43
by leon » 26 Oct 2018 09:49
by sandman » 26 Oct 2018 09:51
Snowball Just look on trnsfrmkt and the number of clubs he's played at for a very short time.
Sometimes you can have all the talent in the world but have other bits missing
like guts, hard-work, team-spirit, discipline
Many/some of us have wondered about some changing-room issues
and thought it might have been Aluko. Maybe it's Barrow? We don't know.
But Clement knows what Barrow is capable of at his best. He doesn't drop
him merely because he doesn't like him personally.
There are so many possibilities... refusing to train, refusing to travel, refusing to be a sub,
missing training, being late for training, physical bust-ups, being spotted out at 0400 the day
before a game, turning up drunk, drugs.
Not saying ANY of these apply, but we are arguing about stuff that's occurred
out of our sight.
What we do know is Barrow's iffy club record, what other fans have said, the
manager's awareness of sell-on values, usefulness to the team etc
Without facts, I leave it to the professionals and presume they are right until proven otherwise
by Snowball » 26 Oct 2018 09:56
sandmanSnowball Just look on trnsfrmkt and the number of clubs he's played at for a very short time.
Sometimes you can have all the talent in the world but have other bits missing
like guts, hard-work, team-spirit, discipline
Many/some of us have wondered about some changing-room issues
and thought it might have been Aluko. Maybe it's Barrow? We don't know.
But Clement knows what Barrow is capable of at his best. He doesn't drop
him merely because he doesn't like him personally.
There are so many possibilities... refusing to train, refusing to travel, refusing to be a sub,
missing training, being late for training, physical bust-ups, being spotted out at 0400 the day
before a game, turning up drunk, drugs.
Not saying ANY of these apply, but we are arguing about stuff that's occurred
out of our sight.
What we do know is Barrow's iffy club record, what other fans have said, the
manager's awareness of sell-on values, usefulness to the team etc
Without facts, I leave it to the professionals and presume they are right until proven otherwise
Stop being sensible and criticise the manager for having a personal vendetta and hating Barrow .
by sandman » 26 Oct 2018 10:00
SnowballsandmanSnowball Just look on trnsfrmkt and the number of clubs he's played at for a very short time.
Sometimes you can have all the talent in the world but have other bits missing
like guts, hard-work, team-spirit, discipline
Many/some of us have wondered about some changing-room issues
and thought it might have been Aluko. Maybe it's Barrow? We don't know.
But Clement knows what Barrow is capable of at his best. He doesn't drop
him merely because he doesn't like him personally.
There are so many possibilities... refusing to train, refusing to travel, refusing to be a sub,
missing training, being late for training, physical bust-ups, being spotted out at 0400 the day
before a game, turning up drunk, drugs.
Not saying ANY of these apply, but we are arguing about stuff that's occurred
out of our sight.
What we do know is Barrow's iffy club record, what other fans have said, the
manager's awareness of sell-on values, usefulness to the team etc
Without facts, I leave it to the professionals and presume they are right until proven otherwise
Stop being sensible and criticise the manager for having a personal vendetta and hating Barrow.
Sorry....
Clement OUT!
by Lower West » 26 Oct 2018 12:45
Snowball Just look on trnsfrmkt and the number of clubs he's played at for a very short time.
by Platypuss » 26 Oct 2018 13:20
RoyalBlue We're told it's a disciplinary issue but that could cover a multitude of sins, some of which might not be that serious. Could Clement/the Club be overreacting? Has Barrow fallen foul of what, given the dire situation the team is in, might be regarded as a rather petty rule?
One thing's certain, it's a good job Clement wasn't in charge when Robin Friday blessed us with his presence!
by NewCorkSeth » 26 Oct 2018 13:27
PlatypussRoyalBlue We're told it's a disciplinary issue but that could cover a multitude of sins, some of which might not be that serious. Could Clement/the Club be overreacting? Has Barrow fallen foul of what, given the dire situation the team is in, might be regarded as a rather petty rule?
One thing's certain, it's a good job Clement wasn't in charge when Robin Friday blessed us with his presence!
There are plenty of decent sticks to beat Clement with, but this is inane, even from serial point-misser RB.
It's not 1976 any more Grandad.
by Victor Meldrew » 26 Oct 2018 14:34
by bcubed » 26 Oct 2018 14:40
by Snowball » 26 Oct 2018 16:15
Victor Meldrew Just looked at Wikipedia where it says that having played 20 times in the Premier League under Bob Bradley he was made available for transfer after falling out with new manager Paul Clement.
So there is clear history.
by Snowflake Royal » 26 Oct 2018 17:26
Coppells Lost CoatOld Man Andrews Having a child isn't an excuse to be unprofessional. Barrow and the other first teamers are probably "working" on average 5 hours a day, it's not like Barrow is a junior doctor working 18 hour shifts is it. Barrow and Clement fell out before and I would guess it has something to do with his effort in training and matches, Clement is demanding more from Barrow and I am all for that. Mo Barrow is no doubt very talented but is a lazy sod, we have all seen it. If Clement can't tolerate that then it will only end one way.
You are right. But modern day footballers have such a way of doing what they like and getting paid regardless.
This is obviously hypothetical but I am just playing devils advocate. But maybe Barrows priority has changed, probably got a few quid in the bank, he might be struggling with the kid mrs might be struggling? we dont know.
But what i do know is if I just had a kid and the mrs was struggling - playing footy / going to work would be low on my list of things to do.
If he is being a brat then absolutely right to be dropped as there is no excuse. He is a professsional and been in the game for long enough to understand what is expected of him. If there is no positive reaction from him, then should be offloaded. Team spirit is quite possibly the best asset we can achieve with zero investment.
by 3points » 26 Oct 2018 18:15
by Victor Meldrew » 27 Oct 2018 11:44
SnowballVictor Meldrew Just looked at Wikipedia where it says that having played 20 times in the Premier League under Bob Bradley he was made available for transfer after falling out with new manager Paul Clement.
So there is clear history.
Selective reading. Wiki basically says Barrow moved down the pecking order because Clement brought in Luciano Narsingh for 4 million.
Prior to that, in two seasons, 36 Premiership appearance, Barrow had scored two goals, one each season.
Quote:
Despite playing 20 times for Swansea during the first half of the 2016–17 season under Guidolin and Bob Bradley, after falling out of favour under new manager Paul Clement due to the signing of Luciano Narsingh, Barrow was made available for a transfer. He was strongly linked with a move to Championship side Newcastle United.[17] On 31 January 2017, Barrow joined Leeds United on loan until the end of the 2016–17 season, with a view to a permanent deal. The move saw him link up with Monk.[18] After failing to break into the first team, he was not purchased by Leeds.[19] During his time at Swansea he became the first Gambian to score a premier league goal.
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