by Lower West » 21 Dec 2018 19:39
by andrew1957 » 21 Dec 2018 20:09
by Barney » 21 Dec 2018 22:05
maffff January window
Anssi Jaakkola - keep - revisit in summer (look at academy / who manager wants as to if we keep around)
Sam Walker - loan (if Mannone stays) or keep - revisit in summer (sell then)
Vito Mannone - sell or keep - revisit in summer (sell then)
Luke Southwood - keep
Lewis Ward - keep out on loan
George Legg - keep out on loan
Chris Gunter - keep
Andy Yiadom - keep
Tennai Watson - keep out on loan
Paul McShane - move on (out of contract in summer)
John O'Shea - keep until summer
Jordan Obita - keep
Liam Moore - keep (unless great offer)
Tiago Ilori - keep
Tyler Blackett - keep (unless great offer)
Tom McIntyre - keep
Gabriel Osho - keep
Danzell Gravenberch - keep (out on loan until his summer departure)
Omar Richards - loan
Joey van den Berg - keep (out on loan, summer departure)
John Swift - whatever, sell if anyone interested for a few million, keep otherwise
Garath McCleary - keep
Callum Harriott - loan
Adrian Popa - out on loan, sell in summer
Leandro Bacuna - keep
Saeid Ezatolahi - keep (does he exist?)
Andy Rinomhota - keep
Sone Aluko - keep (as Kingsley)
David Meyler - let manager look at him, not fussed either way - unlikely to be more than backup
Dave Edwards - loan pre summer departure
Modou Barrow - keep
Liam Kelly - whatever, sell if anyone is interested for a few million, keep otherwise
Pelle Clement - keep
Sam Baldock - keep
Marc McNulty - loan
Danny Loader - loan if league one / two club, keep otherwise
Yakou Méïte - keep
Sam Smith - keep out on loan
Jón Daði Böðvarsson - keep
Andrija Novakovich - keep out on loan ahead of joining first team in summer
by Lower West » 21 Dec 2018 22:09
andrew1957 I don't see the need to ship anyone else out unless we have better players coming in.
by Lower West » 21 Dec 2018 22:14
Barney
Ye gods...makes me realise what a mammoth task Gomes has on his hands. How to turn a massive pile of dog turd into a team that can retain Championship football. Gomes deserves a knighthood already to take on this stack of toss.
by maffff » 22 Dec 2018 01:49
Barney I can't help but think that you have used the word "keep" a bit too much.
by Snowflake Royal » 22 Dec 2018 11:55
andrew1957 People keep saying we have a bloated squad but many of those we probably don't want such as VDB, Gravenberch and Popa are already on loan. I make it that if we include young players such as Rimonhota and Loader that we have a first team squad of 30 currently available but some with long term injuries (Obita, Ezatolahi, O'Shea?) The only other one that would benefit from a loan would be Clement. I liked Harriott before the injury and I would keep him around personally but they might loan him to see if he can get fit. I don't see the need to ship anyone else out unless we have better players coming in.
by Denver Royal » 22 Dec 2018 13:30
Lower West Hope the guy has a thick skin. As I expect what's left of the fanbase to be pretty hostile if performances don't improve immediately.
by Lower West » 23 Dec 2018 01:15
Denver RoyalLower West Hope the guy has a thick skin. As I expect what's left of the fanbase to be pretty hostile if performances don't improve immediately.
Yet you've consistently preached patience, saying the state of the team is such that it's a massive job, there's no magic wand, that it's going to take years to turn things around and rebuild, and it might take dropping down a division or two? (Well, you did under Clement, anyway...)
by 3points » 23 Dec 2018 10:57
by Snowflake Royal » 23 Dec 2018 11:11
Denver RoyalLower West Hope the guy has a thick skin. As I expect what's left of the fanbase to be pretty hostile if performances don't improve immediately.
Yet you've consistently preached patience, saying the state of the team is such that it's a massive job, there's no magic wand, that it's going to take years to turn things around and rebuild, and it might take dropping down a division or two? (Well, you did under Clement, anyway...)
by Eaststandman » 23 Dec 2018 13:32
by Denver Royal » 23 Dec 2018 16:05
Lower WestDenver RoyalLower West Hope the guy has a thick skin. As I expect what's left of the fanbase to be pretty hostile if performances don't improve immediately.
Yet you've consistently preached patience, saying the state of the team is such that it's a massive job, there's no magic wand, that it's going to take years to turn things around and rebuild, and it might take dropping down a division or two? (Well, you did under Clement, anyway...)
Do you think Gomes will survive if we get relegated?
by Lower West » 23 Dec 2018 17:33
Denver Royal
I guess my point was, are you still ok with being relegated, conceptually, because it might be better for the club? Or has that changed with the change in manager?
by Snowflake Royal » 25 Dec 2018 23:43
Denver RoyalLower WestDenver Royal Yet you've consistently preached patience, saying the state of the team is such that it's a massive job, there's no magic wand, that it's going to take years to turn things around and rebuild, and it might take dropping down a division or two? (Well, you did under Clement, anyway...)
Do you think Gomes will survive if we get relegated?
At this point, and without having seen a ball kicked yet, I'd say prolly not. Don't really know for sure, though. I think we're all trying to get a grasp of what their thinking is.
I guess my point was, are you still ok with being relegated, conceptually, because it might be better for the club? Or has that changed with the change in manager?
(Edit: As I recall, you were of that opinion early doors in Clement's reign, i.e. and not when things were 'starting to get better' (which I didn't necessarily agree with, btw)).
by Hiram K Hackenbacker » 26 Dec 2018 23:35
Old Man Andrews Hiram K Hackenbacker doesn't just agree with anyone and anything you know!
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