The League of 4

[Hound]

dunno, Christmas 2017 through to Stam's sacking was as bad as anything I can ever remember

The Burton game was the absolute basement. Doesn't get any lower than that.

yep, though it got compounded by the rubbish that followed in future weeks - Brentford, Birmingham, Sheff Utd etc

just looked back at the stats on that Burton game. 76% possession, 7 shots (2 on target). Ouch.

[Old Man Andrews]

dunno, Christmas 2017 through to Stam's sacking was as bad as anything I can ever remember

The Burton game was the absolute basement. Doesn't get any lower than that.

yep, though it got compounded by the rubbish that followed in future weeks - Brentford, Birmingham, Sheff Utd etc

just looked back at the stats on that Burton game. 76% possession, 7 shots (2 on target). Ouch.

Just remember how full of hope everyone was before the game, stadium was rocking and packed out. Half of the people who bothered to come back and give the club a try were never to be seen again because Stam decided that in his mind we were playing against Barcelona that afternoon instead of Burton and that we needed to keep possession in defence in a desperate attempt to cling on for dear life.

[URZZZZ]

The Burton game was the absolute basement. Doesn't get any lower than that.

yep, though it got compounded by the rubbish that followed in future weeks - Brentford, Birmingham, Sheff Utd etc

just looked back at the stats on that Burton game. 76% possession, 7 shots (2 on target). Ouch.

Just remember how full of hope everyone was before the game, stadium was rocking and packed out. Half of the people who bothered to come back and give the club a try were never to be seen again because Stam decided that in his mind we were playing against Barcelona that afternoon instead of Burton and that we needed to keep possession in defence in a desperate attempt to cling on for dear life.

Yep and in the case of the Sheffield game, it was nearly a quarter of the attendance of the Burton game

The Millwall and Bolton games were also devastating, and in fact last season was the only season in about 20 years I’ve ever chosen to miss a home game, it was that bad

Strange though, we actually had two real watchable games inbetween the garbage against derby and Leeds. It was all just rather strange

[Snowflake Royal]

I even quite enjoyed the period between our first 6 games and when PC got sacked

some ok games and performances in there

Same here. Brizzle, Hull, Preston, even Ipswich though a disappointing result was a fun game.

The managerial change practically destroyed the season for me, especially given how dire we were under Marshall, but Gomes has turned it around and though it took a while I'm back on board.

[From Despair To Where?]

Well, it's a league of 5 now with 1 place to fight for:


Birmingham 46 pts
Derby (h)
Rotherham (a)
Wigan (h)
Reading (a)

Reading 44pts
Bristol City (a)
West Brom (h)
Middlesbrough (a)
Birmingham (h)

Millwall 42pts
Brentford (h)
Villa (a)
Stoke (h)
Bristol City(h)
Wigan (a)

Wigan 41pts
Norwich (h)
Leeds (a)
Preston (h)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)

Rotherham 40pts
Swansea (a)
Birmingham (h)
West Brom (a)
Middlesbrough (h)

[Franchise FC]

Could do with Brum going on a little run to help out with Wigan and Rotherham, then be safe by the time they come to us.

Difficult to see Rotherham getting more than 4 points, but if we're still on 44 our goal difference would be disappearing.
One more point means Rotherham probably have to win twice and that could be tricky.

Have I covered enough possibilities ?
Does it give away a little nervousness ?

[Hound]

Yep we’re certainly not safe yet. One more win required, really hope we get that sooner rather than later

[LUX]

According to BBC, Rotherham deserved to win at Stoke today. Only desperate Stoke defending earned them a point. 16 shots for Rotherham, too.

They are not going to go down quietly. Based on the run-in, Wigan look to be in more trouble. Definitely could do with Norwich beating them tomorrow.

I hope WBA get their play off place guaranteed before they play us, but they then have Rotherham.

We are far from safe, but today has to be considered as a good day.

I still take these things far too seriously.

[windermereROYAL]

According to BBC, Rotherham deserved to win at Stoke today. Only desperate Stoke defending earned them a point. 16 shots for Rotherham, too.

They are not going to go down quietly. Based on the run-in, Wigan look to be in more trouble. Definitely could do with Norwich beating them tomorrow.

I hope WBA get their play off place guaranteed before they play us, but they then have Rotherham.

We are far from safe, but today has to be considered as a good day.

I still take these things far too seriously.

Wouldnt read too much into that Stoke are bloody awful.

[Reading4eva]

One more win will definitely do it. It will mean Rotherham having to win 3 if they lose one, or gaining 2 wins and 2 draws. Cant see either happening to be honest.

Let's do it at Bristol and then watch the others fight in relative safety

Bloody hope Swansea react to their thrashing and aren't on the beach

[Hound]

Reckon we need 2 more points. Be nice to just put it to bed against Brizzle and I think we will

[Zip]

The bookies have somewhat belatedly appreciated Wigan are in trouble. They are now 13/2 to go down. We are now 13/1
Rotherham still strong favourites to drop but Wigan have really been in freefall this year. Their relegation odds remain very generous.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Basically with the goal diff, Rotherham likely need 2 wins and for us not to win any of our last 4 - so looking good seeing how similar our run ins are.

Hoping Derby can beat Brum on Friday so keeps them in touch with the bottom going into their game with Rotherham.

[Hound]

The bookies have somewhat belatedly appreciated Wigan are in trouble. They are now 13/2 to go down. We are now 13/1
Rotherham still strong favourites to drop but Wigan have really been in freefall this year. Their relegation odds remain very generous.

Not a betting man but the odds on wigan are bizarre imo. May put on a tenner

[CountryRoyal]

The bookies have somewhat belatedly appreciated Wigan are in trouble. They are now 13/2 to go down. We are now 13/1
Rotherham still strong favourites to drop but Wigan have really been in freefall this year. Their relegation odds remain very generous.

Might just put £100 on us to go down just in case

[72 bus]

Well, it's a league of 5 now with 1 place to fight for:


Birmingham 46 pts
Derby (h)
Rotherham (a)
Wigan (h)
Reading (a)

Reading 44pts
Bristol City (a)
West Brom (h)
Middlesbrough (a)
Birmingham (h)

Millwall 42pts
Brentford (h)
Villa (a)
Stoke (h)
Bristol City(h)
Wigan (a)

Wigan 41pts
Norwich (h)
Leeds (a)
Preston (h)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)

Rotherham 40pts
Swansea (a)
Birmingham (h)
West Brom (a)
Middlesbrough (h)

Looking at those fixtures, Wigan are down

[Zip]

The bookies have somewhat belatedly appreciated Wigan are in trouble. They are now 13/2 to go down. We are now 13/1
Rotherham still strong favourites to drop but Wigan have really been in freefall this year. Their relegation odds remain very generous.

Might just put £100 on us to go down just in case

Shocking form young man.

[Crowbar6753]

Well, it's a league of 5 now with 1 place to fight for:


Birmingham 46 pts
Derby (h)
Rotherham (a)
Wigan (h)
Reading (a)

Reading 44pts
Bristol City (a)
West Brom (h)
Middlesbrough (a)
Birmingham (h)

Millwall 42pts
Brentford (h)
Villa (a)
Stoke (h)
Bristol City(h)
Wigan (a)

Wigan 41pts
Norwich (h)
Leeds (a)
Preston (h)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)

Rotherham 40pts
Swansea (a)
Birmingham (h)
West Brom (a)
Middlesbrough (h)

Looking at those fixtures, Wigan are down

Agreed, Wigan may get 4 points from those fixtures at best, and in my eye's Rotherham have done an amazing job hanging in there so far and i can seeing them getting 4/5 points at best.
That would leave us needing a win to be safe, and maybe a point might do it. I really think with current form and the up turn in confidence, we should be safe before the Boro game.....fingers crossed.

[NewCorkSeth]

Well, it's a league of 5 now with 1 place to fight for:


Birmingham 46 pts
Derby (h)
Rotherham (a)
Wigan (h)
Reading (a)

Reading 44pts
Bristol City (a)
West Brom (h)
Middlesbrough (a)
Birmingham (h)

Millwall 42pts
Brentford (h)
Villa (a)
Stoke (h)
Bristol City(h)
Wigan (a)

Wigan 41pts
Norwich (h)
Leeds (a)
Preston (h)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)

Rotherham 40pts
Swansea (a)
Birmingham (h)
West Brom (a)
Middlesbrough (h)

Looking at those fixtures, Wigan are down

Funnily enough when i predicted the results on Jonathon Lows results predictor I had Wigan going down.

[windermereROYAL]

Don't know why there wasn't any talk about Rotherham`s equaliser on SS that was blatantly offside.