sandman That's not really the context of what he was saying. He was talking about selecting the most important things you say to players rather than drowning them with too many instructions.
The podcast is still available so you'll be able to listen to it and discover the context of the conversation for yourself, Nameless.
sandman https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/ctw23-34f4c/The-Big-Interview-with-Graham-Hunter-Podcast//DirEpisode_page/7
Page 25 for the Clement two part interview.
Snowball IMO we still need an out and out DM in front of the back 4
sandman Some people still can't get over Clement replacing their beloved Stam and their dreams of the Berkshire version of Total Football and have steadfastly refused to acknowledge anything decent Clement did. Like giving Meite a chance to start and develop. As Ian says, he also spotted where there were weaknesses in the team and at least tried to address them even if the players signed didn't work out. Once you identify those weaknesses you need to make sure you research those players and their characters properly, as Moore alluded to with Brighton and the research into him their scouts did.
The only thing Moore really said negatively about Clement was about communication. It's interesting to hear as I listened to an interview with Clement by Graham Hunter where he said that because he'd worked in countries that he didn't fully know the language he took a less is more approach to speaking with players. By what Moore is saying that is the approach he took here and was probably the wrong one to take.
Every manager has his faults and I suspect that at some point next season we will see some of the faults Gomes has.
From Despair To Where? That seems to be quite a revisionist assessment of the past few seasons.
I remember plenty of people giving Clement credit for gritty wins against Preston and QPR. I also remember him getting very little criticism for the abject performances against Sheffield Wednesday and Ipswich, certainly nowhere near the level of criticism Gomes got for the losses against Millwall and Swansea and any criticism that did occur was levelled at the players.
I don't remember "most "people" wanting Gunter replaced, only really Ian and a couple of others. Most people recognised him as a decent option at this level but woefully lacking in competition for his place. Of Clement's 7 permanent signings, only Yiadom can be regarded as a success.
Very few of Stam's signings worked? I presume you're forgetting Moore, Swift, Beerens, Barrow, Bacuna and Bodvarsson along with players like van den Berg, Blackett and Mannone who played a part. That's 9 out of 20 signings, not including Meite and Ilori, Harriott and Mendes, who scored some crucial goals. His only big failings were Aluko, Popa and Edwards and there was a handful of cheap signings that didn't work.
I'm also bemused by this whole Stam fanboy nonsense, from day 1 he absolutely divided opinion. There's as many Clement fanboys. out there.
From Despair To Where? That seems to be quite a revisionist assessment of the past few seasons.
I remember plenty of people giving Clement credit for gritty wins against Preston and QPR. I also remember him getting very little criticism for the abject performances against Sheffield Wednesday and Ipswich, certainly nowhere near the level of criticism Gomes got for the losses against Millwall and Swansea and any criticism that did occur was levelled at the players.
I don't remember "most "people" wanting Gunter replaced, only really Ian and a couple of others. Most people recognised him as a decent option at this level but woefully lacking in competition for his place. Of Clement's 7 permanent signings, only Yiadom can be regarded as a success.
Very few of Stam's signings worked? I presume you're forgetting Moore, Swift, Beerens, Barrow, Bacuna and Bodvarsson along with players like van den Berg, Blackett and Mannone who played a part. That's 9 out of 20 signings, not including Meite and Ilori, Harriott and Mendes, who scored some crucial goals. His only big failings were Aluko, Popa and Edwards and there was a handful of cheap signings that didn't work.
I'm also bemused by this whole Stam fanboy nonsense, from day 1 he absolutely divided opinion. There's as many Clement fanboys. out there.
muirinhoFrom Despair To Where? That seems to be quite a revisionist assessment of the past few seasons.
I remember plenty of people giving Clement credit for gritty wins against Preston and QPR. I also remember him getting very little criticism for the abject performances against Sheffield Wednesday and Ipswich, certainly nowhere near the level of criticism Gomes got for the losses against Millwall and Swansea and any criticism that did occur was levelled at the players.
I don't remember "most "people" wanting Gunter replaced, only really Ian and a couple of others. Most people recognised him as a decent option at this level but woefully lacking in competition for his place. Of Clement's 7 permanent signings, only Yiadom can be regarded as a success.
Very few of Stam's signings worked? I presume you're forgetting Moore, Swift, Beerens, Barrow, Bacuna and Bodvarsson along with players like van den Berg, Blackett and Mannone who played a part. That's 9 out of 20 signings, not including Meite and Ilori, Harriott and Mendes, who scored some crucial goals. His only big failings were Aluko, Popa and Edwards and there was a handful of cheap signings that didn't work.
I'm also bemused by this whole Stam fanboy nonsense, from day 1 he absolutely divided opinion. There's as many Clement fanboys. out there.
+100
Also the contrast between yesterday's game (when we needed a point) and the abject collapse against Ipswich last year, when again we just needed a point - pretty mammoth.
What about the contrast between Hull away and then Preston last season? We collapsed it one, and held on in the other. Nonsense statement
Discounting BMcD's second stint as it was so short -
Mcdermott's second stint : 30 games
Clement's stint : 30 games
Nonsense
Adkins got us to 7th
Clarke had the FA Cup semi-final,
Stam got us to within a penalty kick of the PL
Technically it was two
Clement got us stuttering to safety, playing like crap, safe only because other teams were worse.
If we kept Stam with 1 win in 19 we'd have gone down. Those two wins kept us up
Gomes has got us over the line playing decent football - nice mix of clever stuff, pragmatism, grit and determination.
Gomes has been very good but with the exception of a couple of games, it hasn't been decent football that's got us through
Clement's definitely the low point of our managers since we got relegated from the PL.
Clarke was worse IMO but that's up to opinions
From Despair To Where? That seems to be quite a revisionist assessment of the past few seasons.
I remember plenty of people giving Clement credit for gritty wins against Preston and QPR. I also remember him getting very little criticism for the abject performances against Sheffield Wednesday and Ipswich, certainly nowhere near the level of criticism Gomes got for the losses against Millwall and Swansea and any criticism that did occur was levelled at the players.
I don't really remember that. Not saying you're wrong as such, but there was a lot of negativity going into the season. Dodgy pre season probably didn't help mind
I don't remember "most "people" wanting Gunter replaced, only really Ian and a couple of others. Most people recognised him as a decent option at this level but woefully lacking in competition for his place. Of Clement's 7 permanent signings, only Yiadom can be regarded as a success
It was more than a couple, maybe not this site but a lot of people on twitter etc were happy to see Gunter replaced
Very few of Stam's signings worked? I presume you're forgetting Moore, Swift, Beerens, Barrow, Bacuna and Bodvarsson along with players like van den Berg, Blackett and Mannone who played a part. That's 9 out of 20 signings, not including Meite and Ilori, Harriott and Mendes, who scored some crucial goals. His only big failings were Aluko, Popa and Edwards and there was a handful of cheap signings that didn't work.
Up for debate, think many of his signings were too inconsistent, only Moore has really impressed with a few others having spells
I'm also bemused by this whole Stam fanboy nonsense, from day 1 he absolutely divided opinion. There's as many Clement fanboys. out there.
URZZZZmuirinhoFrom Despair To Where? That seems to be quite a revisionist assessment of the past few seasons.
I remember plenty of people giving Clement credit for gritty wins against Preston and QPR. I also remember him getting very little criticism for the abject performances against Sheffield Wednesday and Ipswich, certainly nowhere near the level of criticism Gomes got for the losses against Millwall and Swansea and any criticism that did occur was levelled at the players.
I don't remember "most "people" wanting Gunter replaced, only really Ian and a couple of others. Most people recognised him as a decent option at this level but woefully lacking in competition for his place. Of Clement's 7 permanent signings, only Yiadom can be regarded as a success.
Very few of Stam's signings worked? I presume you're forgetting Moore, Swift, Beerens, Barrow, Bacuna and Bodvarsson along with players like van den Berg, Blackett and Mannone who played a part. That's 9 out of 20 signings, not including Meite and Ilori, Harriott and Mendes, who scored some crucial goals. His only big failings were Aluko, Popa and Edwards and there was a handful of cheap signings that didn't work.
I'm also bemused by this whole Stam fanboy nonsense, from day 1 he absolutely divided opinion. There's as many Clement fanboys. out there.
+100
Also the contrast between yesterday's game (when we needed a point) and the abject collapse against Ipswich last year, when again we just needed a point - pretty mammoth.
What about the contrast between Hull away and then Preston last season? We collapsed it one, and held on in the other. Nonsense statement
Discounting BMcD's second stint as it was so short -
Mcdermott's second stint : 30 games
Clement's stint : 30 games
Nonsense
Adkins got us to 7th
Clarke had the FA Cup semi-final,
Stam got us to within a penalty kick of the PL
Technically it was two
Clement got us stuttering to safety, playing like crap, safe only because other teams were worse.
If we kept Stam with 1 win in 19 we'd have gone down. Those two wins kept us up
Gomes has got us over the line playing decent football - nice mix of clever stuff, pragmatism, grit and determination.
Gomes has been very good but with the exception of a couple of games, it hasn't been decent football that's got us through
Clement's definitely the low point of our managers since we got relegated from the PL.
Clarke was worse IMO but that's up to opinions
From Despair To Where? At the the time of his sacking, I wanted Clement to be given more time but I think the decision has been justified and the improvement in results is just a small part of that. I feel that Gomes has invested far more of himself into the club than Clement ever did.
I don't demand success but I do expect players to give their all. For the first time in ages, the players play like they give a shit in every game and that starts with the manager.
From Despair To Where? Coppell understood exactly what motivated each player and what each player needed and he kept it simple.
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