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by alad » 24 Sep 2006 13:41

2 world wars, 1 world cup Disgraceful behaviour by Reading 'fans' and I hope they're banned.

Obviously f**king stupid of the kid and perhaps the poor lad will learn.

It has to be remembered home and away section are there for a REASON. Home is for home fans, Away is for away fans. Simple.

If your end is sold out don't go to the opposition section because it's not for you!

What detracts slightly from my sympathy for the lad is that there are many true lifelong diehard Reading fans like myself who were unable to get a ticket for one fo the biggest matches in our history so far, and yet an away 'fan' sneaks in AND is arrogant and disrespectful enough to rub his allegiance in all our faces.

Ok, if you're going to do it fine. I went to the away end for the Preston match with my PNE mates but I didn't wear Reading colours out of respect, and was very complimentary about Preston the whole way through, even claping their goals, and of course not cheering ours out loud. And I was definitely not depriving a Preston fan of one of the most momentous games of their history.


Make up your mind, some say it was just another game and wasn't as important as the win at Shef U, while some say it was the biggest game in Reading's history. The way the everyone cheered the draw at the end felt like it was Reading's cup final. People were actually jumping up and down as if a goal had gone in :lol:

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by Sharpy » 24 Sep 2006 13:43

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2 world wars, 1 world cup Disgraceful behaviour by Reading 'fans' and I hope they're banned.

Obviously f**king stupid of the kid and perhaps the poor lad will learn.

It has to be remembered home and away section are there for a REASON. Home is for home fans, Away is for away fans. Simple.

If your end is sold out don't go to the opposition section because it's not for you!

What detracts slightly from my sympathy for the lad is that there are many true lifelong diehard Reading fans like myself who were unable to get a ticket for one fo the biggest matches in our history so far, and yet an away 'fan' sneaks in AND is arrogant and disrespectful enough to rub his allegiance in all our faces.

Ok, if you're going to do it fine. I went to the away end for the Preston match with my PNE mates but I didn't wear Reading colours out of respect, and was very complimentary about Preston the whole way through, even claping their goals, and of course not cheering ours out loud. And I was definitely not depriving a Preston fan of one of the most momentous games of their history.


Make up your mind, some say it was just another game and wasn't as important as the win at Shef U, while some say it was the biggest game in Reading's history. The way the everyone cheered the draw at the end felt like it was Reading's cup final. People were actually jumping up and down as if a goal had gone in :lol:


fcuk off mate, put it in perspective...

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by Millsy » 24 Sep 2006 14:00

alad
2 world wars, 1 world cup Disgraceful behaviour by Reading 'fans' and I hope they're banned.

Obviously f**king stupid of the kid and perhaps the poor lad will learn.

It has to be remembered home and away section are there for a REASON. Home is for home fans, Away is for away fans. Simple.

If your end is sold out don't go to the opposition section because it's not for you!

What detracts slightly from my sympathy for the lad is that there are many true lifelong diehard Reading fans like myself who were unable to get a ticket for one fo the biggest matches in our history so far, and yet an away 'fan' sneaks in AND is arrogant and disrespectful enough to rub his allegiance in all our faces.

Ok, if you're going to do it fine. I went to the away end for the Preston match with my PNE mates but I didn't wear Reading colours out of respect, and was very complimentary about Preston the whole way through, even claping their goals, and of course not cheering ours out loud. And I was definitely not depriving a Preston fan of one of the most momentous games of their history.


Make up your mind, some say it was just another game and wasn't as important as the win at Shef U, while some say it was the biggest game in Reading's history. The way the everyone cheered the draw at the end felt like it was Reading's cup final. People were actually jumping up and down as if a goal had gone in :lol:


Whilst I (now) dislike Man Utd I don't think it's unreasonable to admit this has so far been in many ways one of the biggest league fixtures in our history - the likes of which we've only been waiting for for 135 years or so - a marker of the fact that we're finally entertaining the big boys. And yes I was delighted to have drawn against such class.

Yet it's also valid to say it was just another game and is just as important as Sheff Utd. It's reasonable to hold both points of view.

I think it'd be rather odd for a fan not to regard this fixture as a big one for the majority of people, and not to realise this was going to be a match msot Reading fans would love to get to.

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by handbags_harris » 24 Sep 2006 14:24

Whilst any violence is not particularly wanted by the majority of people at a football match, it is a fact of life at the moment that violence does still occur. It can be instigated in any manner of ways, but one surefire way to spark violence is to brazenly wear an away shirt in the home end. I have absolutely no sympathy for the fella who did this yesterday, he clearly was looking for it if he did it. If he's 16/17 odd then he knows what he' doing. I'm by no means condoning the actions of the guys who battered him, but there are people who do this and this kiddy knew it.
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by Dirk Gently » 24 Sep 2006 14:25

Agreed he was stupid - but the penalty for stupidity shouldn't be a severe beating.


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by Jerry St Clair » 24 Sep 2006 15:34

So, what happened to the lad? Did he leave, get thrown out...?

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by The 17 Bus » 24 Sep 2006 15:47

was this the lad that was surrounded by Tango's in the disabled section? if so he was escorted down the access tunnel between satnds

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by RODWAY ROAD ROYAL » 24 Sep 2006 15:48

the kids only crime was stupidity - i hope the older idiots were caught on
cctv & get banned for life - that sort of behavior has no place in football

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by Royal Rother » 24 Sep 2006 15:51

If it transpires that the lad was in the disabled section or was not "quite the ticket" I wonder how ashamed the Reading supporters who think he brought it on himself might then feel.


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by Royal Lady » 24 Sep 2006 15:53

If that were the case RR, I would hope his parents/carers were more ashamed at letting him go on his own if he didn't know what he was doing.

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by alad » 24 Sep 2006 15:54

Then he should have gone into the disabled section in the away end. Being disabled is no excuse to walk around a home stand in the away teams shirt.

I recall when some fool wore an Oxford shirt to a Reading v Wrexham game in 99 (I think) and was started on and then escorted out for his own safety. When will these idiots learn.

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by PlasticRoyale » 24 Sep 2006 15:55

Didn't really see any punches thrown and he was with a couple of older adults who were protecting him. Was a big mob surrounding him and a bit of shoving. Ended up being forced down the entrance to Y25 before tango's escorted him out. Was told to take his shirt off and plenty of people were trying to rip it off him.

One of the adults with him took his top off and fronted a few people up but it didn't really kick off into a major brawl.

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by The 17 Bus » 24 Sep 2006 15:55

Royal Rother If it transpires that the lad was in the disabled section or was not "quite the ticket" I wonder how ashamed the Reading supporters who think he brought it on himself might then feel.


not suggesting that he was disabled, but a young Man U fan was in that area, and was escorted away, perhaps he ended up there trying to escape these idiots.


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by Sharpy » 24 Sep 2006 15:56

Royal Rother If it transpires that the lad was in the disabled section or was not "quite the ticket" I wonder how ashamed the Reading supporters who think he brought it on himself might then feel.


he was probably in the disabled section after pegging it out of the concourse :roll:

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by Royal Rother » 24 Sep 2006 15:57

No T17B, but the very thought was going through my mind an hour or two ago that he MIGHT have been. (Having seen your post thought the observation was relevant.)

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by Peter Kay - Top of the To » 24 Sep 2006 16:56

Bath Hoops I don't think punching the hell out of a kid or adult is responsible action, all you had to do was get a steward and he'd have been thrown out. Certainly not the image I'd like Reading FC fans to be assocaited with, we are a family club and people respect us for that not. I hope the club can identify the people involved too, and you get the bans you deserve.
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Im sorry I disagree. I simply dont believe our stewarding system at the Mad Stad has that many stewards who are capable or confident enought to step in and avert the potential violence.

Fact is the kid should never have been allowed into the East Stand. When will we have stewards who are capable of being pro-active in seeing a situation before it arises? Im sick and tired of this excuse environment. Would you seriously wear a Reading shirt into the home end of any other leagure team in a competetive match?? (The League Cup is not a competetive match!)

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by brendywendy » 24 Sep 2006 17:11

a tw@t in the north stand had a rooney shirt on, but all he got was nasty glares
a better class of reading fan in the north stand dont you know, wot wot wot

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by matt_turner » 24 Sep 2006 17:13

outside the north stand at half time i saw a few united shirts, noone said a thing, it's a shame such a brilliant occasion in the clubs history can be ruined by a few narrow minded yobs that think it's fun to pick a fight with people

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by Peter Kay - Top of the To » 24 Sep 2006 17:29

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alad That is football, if someone is stupid enough to wear a United shirt in the Reading stand then they're inciting trouble and asking for it.


Absolutely right.
So if he was getting beaten in front of your children you think that was the right action to undertake ? There should be no place for violence of any kind at football and people who take part in it should be banned. If the guy was stupid enough to wear the shirt then he should just have been thrown out of the ground, it did not need any violence and if you think that was the right course of action then I feel very sorry for you.


You are incapable of understanding the critical point of this thread. I merely agreed (for once) with Alad. His point was that if you are stupid enough to wear an away shirt in the home end, then you should not expect sympathy.

As you come from Bath I assume you are more at home at Rugby matches where the middle classes jovially mock each other in close proximity. If you havent spent that long watching football then I will educate you:

1. Its triblal
2. Its mostly verbal (very occasionally physical)
3. Its the national sport
4. Before you 'prawn sandwich twats' arrived it was quite good fun.

Consider yourself gripped. Do not lecture me on what is/is not in appropriate in a football stadium again.

You have no idea.

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by brendywendy » 24 Sep 2006 17:34

dont really think punching anyone for whatever reason, anywhere is ever really acceptable

he was a twat-just for supporting UTD, and a bigger one for wearing the shirt, but if hes come to the game with a couple of reading supporting family, what is so bad about that, it doesnt sound like he was a stanley knife wieldingthug who had snuck into our end for some argy bargy

hope they all feel really big and hard for doing that, Nobbers

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