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Re: Howe ?

by westongeezer » 29 Jan 2010 20:48

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Re: Howe ?

by Row Z Royal » 29 Jan 2010 22:11

MeMeMe Howe have we found ourselves second from bottom with the two teams above us having a game in-hand ?

Howe are we supposed to take this club seriously as fans when we can't even appoint a decent manager ?

Howe patient are we supposed to be waiting for the appointment of a decent manager ?.... oh forgot, there's no rush is there :roll:

Howe much sense does balancing the books make when it costs us relegation ?

Howe much more of this do you expect the fans to take Mr HOWE ?


HOWE have you not been banned for posting shit?

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Re: Howe ?

by MeMeMe » 29 Jan 2010 23:32

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MeMeMe Howe have we found ourselves second from bottom with the two teams above us having a game in-hand ?

Howe are we supposed to take this club seriously as fans when we can't even appoint a decent manager ?

Howe patient are we supposed to be waiting for the appointment of a decent manager ?.... oh forgot, there's no rush is there :roll:

Howe much sense does balancing the books make when it costs us relegation ?

Howe much more of this do you expect the fans to take Mr HOWE ?


HOWE have you not been banned for posting shit?


Howe did you ever manage to login to write that ?, you must have had some assistance

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Re: Howe ?

by Dirk Gently » 30 Jan 2010 00:13

MeMeMe Howe did you ever manage to login to write that ?, you must have had some assistance


Who says irony is dead?

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Re: Howe ?

by MeMeMe » 30 Jan 2010 00:27

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MeMeMe Howe did you ever manage to login to write that ?, you must have had some assistance


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Irony isn't dead. just certain peoples brains


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Re: Howe ?

by Sun Tzu » 30 Jan 2010 08:26

mathematically_safe one of those 'i can't reveal the source' posts i'm afraid...

... i know someone who has recently had a business meeting with SJM and NH. SJM was defiant that RFC would survive in the CCC. Howe on the other hand was already resigned to relegation and planning for League One.

Read into that what you will...


I'd read into that standard business planning.

In a business like football with annual cycles you would expect the CE to plan for all possible scenarios. This time last year they would have been putting two business plans together, one for promotion and one for not getting promoted.

It would be careless in the extreme to plump for one possibility and ignore the other. To have to start putting a plan together for the second option in May would be near enough impossible.
In this situation the plan if we stay up is probably easy to produce, the one if we go down much harder so you'd put more attention on that.

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Re: Howe ?

by Terminal Boardom » 30 Jan 2010 08:57

If we stay up then it will be by the skin of our teeth. The investment needed to ensure that status is maintained may well be high. A new LB will be needed and certainly strengthened up front and at CB.

If we go down, the planning is much easier. Don't need to look for money for new signings that's for sure! Reduce the numbers coming in through the gates and commercial areas and work from there.

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Re: Howe ?

by Mad Dog's Ghost » 30 Jan 2010 09:01

More importantly, is that not Gaz Topp of Get Fresh-fame with the Fred Dineage and that weather forecaster. A TV leg end.

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Re: Howe ?

by Terminal Boardom » 30 Jan 2010 10:52

I always wondered what Floyd looked like



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Re: Howe ?

by RoyalBlue » 30 Jan 2010 11:54

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Howe is essentially the problem @ the club. people who dont know wat they're talking about slate Rodgers, Hammond, Madejski, whoever but Howe is the real cancer. Never got behind Rodgers, created unrest within the club and single handidly created the problems we're in now


plus, his sons a cock



Can't agree with you there AF2. Running a football club is a business, and Howe's experience in business is unrivalled by any other football club chief executive.

Reading fans have unrealistic expectations of what can be done whilst running the club as a business - and when managers like Rodgers who was no better than a fan himself come into contact with Howe, that's when we have problems.

My worry is that the constant criticism of Howe will lead to him taking a back seat. You only have to look at Portsmouth to see how dangerous that would be for us.


The supporters of the current board and Chief Executive can't have it both ways. They and the board claim football is like any other business.If that is the case there are a few inescapable principles. Firstly, you can't continue to cut costs. At the end of the day you need sensible investment on an ongoing basis in order to secure the longer term security, prosperity and growth of that business. Secondly, you have to keep moving forwards, if not, you tend to start falling backwards. Thirdly, you have to provide a product that customers are happy with and want to buy. Fourthly, if you p*ss off your customers they will desert you in their droves. Fifthly, if you start providing a shyte product you can't expect/ask your customers to carry on supporting you purely through brand loyalty.

Reality is, football isn't entirely like other businesses.

As for Howe's experience in business, as a Quantity Surveyor and Project Manager if I recall correctly, is it that brilliant and successful? And when it comes to his experience in the different business of football, the likes of Karen Brady wipe the floor with him!

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Re: Howe ?

by Royalee » 30 Jan 2010 12:54

Get out of our club Howe and Madejski.

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Re: Howe ?

by Row Z Royal » 30 Jan 2010 13:01

Royalee Get out of our club Howe and Madejski.


GET OUT OF OUR CLUB, ROYALEE

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Re: Howe ?

by Royalee » 30 Jan 2010 13:03

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Royalee Get out of our club Howe and Madejski.


GET OUT OF OUR CLUB, ROYALEE


So you don't have any problem with us going from the Premiership to League 1 in 2 years then?


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Re: Howe ?

by Dirk Gently » 30 Jan 2010 13:04

Royalee Get out of our club Howe and Madejski.


That's the nub of it, though - it's not "our" club, is it? Spiritually and emotionally it is, but look at the share register and see just how much "our" club it is.

But then again, spirit and emotion don't build stadia or pay players' wages, let along put in financial subsidies when the numbers of "us" coming through the gates to watch "our" club don't generate enough money to make us self-sufficient.

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Re: Howe ?

by Royalee » 30 Jan 2010 13:10

Whilst I agree with your sentiment Dirk, the football club could not survive without the fans and Madejski's reward for his investment has come in the way of personal accolades such as his knighthood and honorary degree. He is now taking everything he can out of the club and is running it for his personal benefit as opposed to that of the community - he can't have his cake and eat it.

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Re: Howe ?

by Dirk Gently » 30 Jan 2010 13:13

Royalee Whilst I agree with your sentiment Dirk, the football club could not survive without the fans and Madejski's reward for his investment has come in the way of personal accolades such as his knighthood and honorary degree. He is now taking everything he can out of the club and is running it for his personal benefit as opposed to that of the community - he can't have his cake and eat it.


But he's not "taking everything he can out of the club and running it for his personal benefit" - he's actually just not putting anything extra into it from outside, and he's leaving it to run on its own as a self-sustaining business. And that's a very different thing from what you just said.

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Re: Howe ?

by Royalee » 30 Jan 2010 13:18

He's taking out money in 'loan repayments' and is drawing in money he invested initially - which is not running the business in its best long term interests. You don't see every chairman in the league paying back loan payments in such dramatic fashion whilst claiming the club is 'well-run'. It's no coincidence that many of Madejski's businesses are reported to be struggling, the documentary he featured in should leave no doubt as to his mindset.

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Re: Howe ?

by Row Z Royal » 30 Jan 2010 13:20

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Royalee Get out of our club Howe and Madejski.


GET OUT OF OUR CLUB, ROYALEE


So you don't have any problem with us going from the Premiership to League 1 in 2 years then?


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Re: Howe ?

by Royalee » 30 Jan 2010 13:21

That's just the thing with you though RZR - you'e one of the trolls on here who disagree with a point, try and turn it into an insult yet don't actually try to construct a proper argument.

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Re: Howe ?

by Row Z Royal » 30 Jan 2010 13:23

Royalee That's just the thing with you though RZR - you'e one of the trolls on here who disagree with a point, try and turn it into an insult yet don't actually try to construct a proper argument.


What's the point when a two-bit keyboard warrior like your good self will just dislike what I say and call me a tw@?

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