by Hoop Blah » 16 May 2018 10:05
Double d v2 The big debate at work is whether or not Shelvey will go. Livermore is (so I have heard from contacts) nailed on to go. But GS is umming and eering about Shelvey, especially his discipline and hot head. Although I think creatively he is our best player.
Old Man AndrewsHoop Blah Sounds like Wilshire is out, with Delph probably in if reports are correct.
Southgate can't take the risk with Wilshire, complete liability when it comes to fitness. He has had a really bad end to the season too, horribly out of form.
by From Despair To Where? » 16 May 2018 10:09
Hoop BlahDouble d v2 The big debate at work is whether or not Shelvey will go. Livermore is (so I have heard from contacts) nailed on to go. But GS is umming and eering about Shelvey, especially his discipline and hot head. Although I think creatively he is our best player.
I don't really buy into the Shelvey love to be honest. He's a good passer but from what I've seen (and it's not a hell of a lot this season) he's one that plays a lot of those long range raking passes so in a sense he flatters a little bit. I've always been a Henderson fan he he can play those as well, and a fair few defense splitting through balls but doesn't get the credit for it and probably picks and chooses when to hit them more than Shelvey (the counter argument there might be that he just doesn't see them as often as Shelvey of course!).
I'd be very surprised it Livermore is included. Southgate obviously showed loyalty to him for the previous squads but he also made it sound like that loyalty was specifically for those friendlies. It didn't sound to me like he'd be extending it to the summer.Old Man AndrewsHoop Blah Sounds like Wilshire is out, with Delph probably in if reports are correct.
Southgate can't take the risk with Wilshire, complete liability when it comes to fitness. He has had a really bad end to the season too, horribly out of form.
Wilshire is still more creative than just about any other English midfielder, including Shelvey, and I think he's done enough to show the injuries might not be an issue. I have read that his withdrawal from the squad for the friendlies wasn't actually because of an injury but more because Southgate didn't think he was fit enough to play in his system.
Maybe with Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshire and Barkley ruled out Livermore is creeping closer to inclusion!
by Hoop Blah » 16 May 2018 10:20
From Despair To Where? I like Southgate. He clearly has a plan going forward and hes looking to pick players on form rather than reputation.
England won't win it but I think QFs and a squad for the next 8 years taking shape would be an excellent return.
by Theroyalbox » 16 May 2018 10:24
by BR0B0T » 16 May 2018 10:28
From Despair To Where?
England won't win it but I think QFs
by BR0B0T » 16 May 2018 10:28
Theroyalbox Jack Wilshere's tweet this morning is pretty funny,
Double d v2 Squad (I think) will be something like this
Pickford (no 1)
Butland
Pope
Walker (RB)
Delph (LB)
John Stones
Harry Maguire
Tarkowski/Lascelles
Cahill
Alexander Arnold
Trippier
Young
Lingard (LW)
Alli (CAM)
Sterling (RW)
Henderson (CDM)
Livermore
Shelvey
Loftus Cheek
Lallana
Vardy (ST)
Kane (ST)
Wellbeck
Shame Zaha won't play, I would take him too
Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2 Squad (I think) will be something like this
Pickford (no 1)
Butland
Pope
Walker (RB)
Delph (LB)
John Stones
Harry Maguire
Tarkowski/Lascelles
Cahill
Alexander Arnold
Trippier
Young
Lingard (LW)
Alli (CAM)
Sterling (RW)
Henderson (CDM)
Livermore
Shelvey
Loftus Cheek
Lallana
Vardy (ST)
Kane (ST)
Wellbeck
Shame Zaha won't play, I would take him too
Why would he take 3 right backs?
Zaha also plays for the Ivory Coast which might be an issue.
Double d v2Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2 Squad (I think) will be something like this
Pickford (no 1)
Butland
Pope
Walker (RB)
Delph (LB)
John Stones
Harry Maguire
Tarkowski/Lascelles
Cahill
Alexander Arnold
Trippier
Young
Lingard (LW)
Alli (CAM)
Sterling (RW)
Henderson (CDM)
Livermore
Shelvey
Loftus Cheek
Lallana
Vardy (ST)
Kane (ST)
Wellbeck
Shame Zaha won't play, I would take him too
Why would he take 3 right backs?
Zaha also plays for the Ivory Coast which might be an issue.
Which is why I said won't play Kes.
Young can play RW/LW/LB and Trent can play LB too.
I would assume Southgate will take more then 3 strikers aswell, it does not fill me with much confidence having Welbeck as our only option as a sub.
by Theroyalbox » 16 May 2018 11:14
Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2Old Man Andrews
Why would he take 3 right backs?
Zaha also plays for the Ivory Coast which might be an issue.
Which is why I said won't play Kes.
Young can play RW/LW/LB and Trent can play LB too.
I would assume Southgate will take more then 3 strikers aswell, it does not fill me with much confidence having Welbeck as our only option as a sub.
No you had no idea he played for the Ivory Coast and are now trying to make out you knew that all along. Nice try.
Why would you take a 19 year old kid to a World Cup to play out of position at left back?
by Hendo » 16 May 2018 11:17
Theroyalbox Jack Wilshere's tweet this morning is pretty
Double d v2Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2
Which is why I said won't play Kes.
Young can play RW/LW/LB and Trent can play LB too.
I would assume Southgate will take more then 3 strikers aswell, it does not fill me with much confidence having Welbeck as our only option as a sub.
No you had no idea he played for the Ivory Coast and are now trying to make out you knew that all along. Nice try.
Why would you take a 19 year old kid to a World Cup to play out of position at left back?
NO, I did know that because I read it in the news yesterday, and I also said that "he will not play" because he is not eligible.....
He has played left back before and done very well actually, and would be a good backup option to have,
Who would you have Kes?
Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2Old Man Andrews
No you had no idea he played for the Ivory Coast and are now trying to make out you knew that all along. Nice try.
Why would you take a 19 year old kid to a World Cup to play out of position at left back?
NO, I did know that because I read it in the news yesterday, and I also said that "he will not play" because he is not eligible.....
He has played left back before and done very well actually, and would be a good backup option to have,
Who would you have Kes?
Ask me again but call me by my actual name and we can have a sensible discussion. See if you can manage it.
by Vision » 16 May 2018 11:25
Double d v2Old Man AndrewsDouble d v2
NO, I did know that because I read it in the news yesterday, and I also said that "he will not play" because he is not eligible.....
He has played left back before and done very well actually, and would be a good backup option to have,
Who would you have Kes?
Ask me again but call me by my actual name and we can have a sensible discussion. See if you can manage it.
Who would you take to the World Cup, actual name unknown but goes by OMA on an internet mongboard?
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