WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Mr Optimist » 20 Jun 2014 17:45

Libertine England was ranked 3rd in their group in terms of world rankings (10th) behind Uruguay (7th) and Italy (9th). And if they defeat Costa Rica that is probably where they will end up in the group.

I was lamenting the US's draw with Germany, Portugal and Ghana. England got almost as tough a group as the US did. They got defeated by two highly ranked, very skillful teams, who have a good deal of world class difference making players. What I saw from England was they have no player who is a difference maker, a player who can rise to the occasion and give you those moments of brilliance needed to win close games against world class opposition. Italy and Uruguay have those players. Why do Italy and Uruguay have those kind of players and England don't? I think a case could be made about it coming down to the nature of the professional leagues in England and their reliance on foreign born superstars instead of homegrown ones. All the best players in the PL seem to be born in places other than England...


I hear what you are saying but the too many foreigners in the Premier League is the fashionable excuse for the last 10 years failure to get anywhere close to a final, and sometimes failing to get to a World Cup or European championship. What is the excuse, 1966 on home soil apart, for the dog shit of the 70s and 80s international performances.

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Mr Optimist » 20 Jun 2014 17:53

I was surprised at the population figure for Uruguay at c.3.3m. About the equivalent of Wales. They really do punch above their weight in footballing terms for a small nation.

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Green » 20 Jun 2014 18:43

Avon Royal Genuine LOL at all the people using the FIFA rankings as some sort of justification for England failing to get out the group :lol:

They have the Netherlands at 15th place FFS. They are utterly irrelevant.

Good post

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by leon » 20 Jun 2014 19:02

I think the problem is that we're shit.

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by MmmMonsterMunch » 20 Jun 2014 19:04

Just LOL @ England. However low you set your expectations, they still go below them. Quite an impressive feat to be knocked out with a game to spare.

Rooting for Costa Rica now - I hope they get 9 points & one of Italy / Uruguay misses out.


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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by stealthpapes » 20 Jun 2014 19:10

One of Italy or Uruguay will join us now

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Whatevs » 20 Jun 2014 19:10

stealthpapes One of Italy or Uruguay will join us now


no shit Sherlock!

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by MmmMonsterMunch » 20 Jun 2014 19:11

Fair fcuks to Costa Rica. Who'd have thunk it?

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by stealthpapes » 20 Jun 2014 19:12

no shit Sherlock!


Some things look much much better written down. That's all.

I, for one, welcome our new costa rican overlords.


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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by tulip » 20 Jun 2014 19:17

Anyone had Costa Rica as their dark horses?

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by genome » 20 Jun 2014 19:17

tulip Anyone had Costa Rica as their dark horses?


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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by windermere_royal » 20 Jun 2014 19:32

stealthpapes One of Italy or Uruguay will join us now


Italy need a point, Uruguay need to win

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Kitsondinho » 20 Jun 2014 19:35

windermere_royal
stealthpapes One of Italy or Uruguay will join us now


Italy need a point, Uruguay need to win

Uruguay will do it. I am sure of that.


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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by soggy biscuit » 20 Jun 2014 19:40

Would quite like to see Uruguay win the WC tbh

tiny population, Cavani & Suarez brilliant to watch. Proper underdogs

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by multisync1830 » 20 Jun 2014 19:42

really really really want to see Suarez cry again

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Kitsondinho » 20 Jun 2014 19:52

multisync1830 really really really want to see Suarez cry again

He will when they win it on 13th July :wink:

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by Ouroboros » 20 Jun 2014 20:18

Green
Avon Royal Genuine LOL at all the people using the FIFA rankings as some sort of justification for England failing to get out the group :lol:

They have the Netherlands at 15th place FFS. They are utterly irrelevant.

Good post


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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by sandman » 20 Jun 2014 21:13

multisync1830 really really really want to see Suarez cry again


If he doesn't win the player of the tournament it'll be a crime.

Can we have three cheers for Suarez? Hip hip...

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by multisync1830 » 20 Jun 2014 21:21

sandman
multisync1830 really really really want to see Suarez cry again


If he doesn't win the player of the tournament it'll be a crime.

Can we have three cheers for Suarez? Hip hip...


he's played one game and scored 2 goals against a shite team...wow wee woo

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Re: WC 2014 Match 22 - Uruguay vs England

by multisync1830 » 20 Jun 2014 21:22

Kitsondinho
multisync1830 really really really want to see Suarez cry again

He will when they win it on 13th July :wink:



a tenner to charity they don't win

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