Remembering the 96

[AF1]

Pitiful ‘comedy’ on this thread.

'greed


Except for Aggro - that made me laugh

[PieEater]

Still very sad. The thought that they were like us just supporting the club they loved and they didn't come home.
The season we won promotion was the first time I'd been to Hillsborough and it felt strange sitting in that end of the ground. The thought of those that died was very much in my mind. Remembering people being crushed on the concrete we were standing on, jumping to the lower tier etc.

RIP

It was the first time I'd been also, however we were in the upper tier. You could see the tunnel and how obvious it is to assume that the tunnel was the entrance to all of lower tier not just the centre. The signs to left and right hand tiers are there, but you could easily miss them

[g]

I hope it was worth it for the ones they didn't pay

[Silver Fox]

And so the thread takes an inevitable turn for the worse.....

I'm always amazed that football fans can be quite so pcunty about Hillsborough, there but for the grace of god etc..

[6ft Kerplunk]

It was the first time I'd been also, however we were in the upper tier. You could see the tunnel and how obvious it is to assume that the tunnel was the entrance to all of lower tier not just the centre. The signs to left and right hand tiers are there, but you could easily miss them

I'd imagine that the signs were changed/added after the disaster too.

[TheMaraudingDog]

19 years today;

John Alfred Anderson (62)
Thomas Howard (39)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
James Gary Aspinall (18)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Alan Johnston (29)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Simon Bell (17)
Gary Philip Jones (18)
Ian Pulfer (26)
Richard Jones (25)
David John Benson (22)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
David William Birtle (22)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Tony Bland (22)
Michael David Kelly (38)
Paul David Brady (21)
Carl David Lewis (18)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
David William Mather (19)
Carl Brown (18)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38)
David Steven Brown (25)
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
John McBrien (18)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Alan McGlone (28)
Joseph Clark (29)
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Clark (18)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Gary Collins (22)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23)
Jonathon Owens (18)
James Philip Delaney (19)
William Roy Pemberton (23)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
Christopher Edwards (29)
David George Rimmer (38)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Graham John Roberts (24)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Barry Glover (27)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Inger Shah (38)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip Hammond (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
Eric Hankin (33)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Gary Harrison (27)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
David Hawley (39)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Colin Wafer (19)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Arthur Horrocks (41)
Graham John Wright (17)

I'm not reading all that

You're being harsh there.

Why am I being harsh?
It’s a long list and I don’t have the time or energy to read through it.
I’d probably put a limit on around 39 when it comes to reading a list.

[Deadlock]

When do Bradford City remember their own dead?

May 11th

[SpaceCruiser]

That's weird, did anyone get an apology email from Football Fans Census cos they sent an email earlier about standing. Why would Reading fans be offended?

p.s. aggro, I was making a joke.

[Platypuss]

19 years today;

John Alfred Anderson (62)
Thomas Howard (39)
Colin Mark Ashcroft (19)
Thomas Anthony Howard (14)
James Gary Aspinall (18)
Eric George Hughes (42)
Kester Roger Marcus Ball (16)
Alan Johnston (29)
Gerard Bernard Patrick Baron (67)
Christine Anne Jones (27)
Simon Bell (17)
Gary Philip Jones (18)
Ian Pulfer (26)
Richard Jones (25)
David John Benson (22)
Nicholas Peter Joynes (27)
David William Birtle (22)
Anthony Peter Kelly (29)
Tony Bland (22)
Michael David Kelly (38)
Paul David Brady (21)
Carl David Lewis (18)
Andrew Mark Brookes (26)
David William Mather (19)
Carl Brown (18)
Brian Christopher Mathews (38)
David Steven Brown (25)
Francis Joseph McAllister (27)
Henry Thomas Burke (47)
John McBrien (18)
Peter Andrew Burkett (24)
Marion Hazel McCabe (21)
Paul William Carlile (19)
Joseph Daniel McCarthy (21)
Raymond Thomas Chapman (50)
Peter McDonnell (21)
Gary Christopher Church (19)
Alan McGlone (28)
Joseph Clark (29)
Keith McGrath (17)
Paul Clark (18)
Paul Brian Murray (14)
Gary Collins (22)
Lee Nicol (14)
Stephen Paul Copoc (20)
Stephen Francis O'Neill (17)
Tracey Elizabeth Cox (23)
Jonathon Owens (18)
James Philip Delaney (19)
William Roy Pemberton (23)
Christopher Barry Devonside (18)
Carl William Rimmer (21)
Christopher Edwards (29)
David George Rimmer (38)
Vincent Michael Fitzsimmons (34)
Graham John Roberts (24)
Thomas Steven Fox (21)
Steven Joseph Robinson (17)
Jon-Paul Gilhooley (10)
Henry Charles Rogers (17)
Barry Glover (27)
Colin Andrew Hugh William Sefton (23)
Ian Thomas Glover (20)
Inger Shah (38)
Derrick George Godwin (24)
Paula Ann Smith (26)
Roy Harry Hamilton (34)
Adam Edward Spearritt (14)
Philip Hammond (14)
Philip John Steele (15)
Eric Hankin (33)
David Leonard Thomas (23)
Gary Harrison (27)
Patrik John Thompson (35)
Stephen Francis Harrison (31)
Peter Reuben Thompson (30)
Peter Andrew Harrison (15)
Stuart Paul William Thompson (17)
David Hawley (39)
Peter Francis Tootle (21)
James Robert Hennessy (29)
Christopher James Traynor (26)
Paul Anthony Hewitson (26)
Martin Kevin Traynor (16)
Carl Darren Hewitt (17)
Kevin Tyrrell (15)
Nicholas Michael Hewitt (16)
Colin Wafer (19)
Sarah Louise Hicks (19)
Ian David Whelan (19)
Victoria Jane Hicks (15)
Martin Kenneth Wild (29)
Gordon Rodney Horn (20)
Kevin Daniel Williams (15)
Arthur Horrocks (41)
Graham John Wright (17)

I'm not reading all that

You're being harsh there.

Why am I being harsh?
It’s a long list and I don’t have the time or energy to read through it.
I’d probably put a limit on around 39 when it comes to reading a list.

Not one of Spacey's better efforts.

But then again, what is?

[TheMaraudingDog]

I don't know what's sadder, Spacey's "joke" or baked bean head spotting it.

[TBM]

Funny isn’t, how anonymously people will act in a way so different to how (one assumes) they act in real life. And also how our experience or otherwise of terrible events shapes our feelings towards them. TBM wants some jokes about Hillsborough; but if his brother had been crushed to death that day, would he want to share in the ‘hilarity’?

Pitiful ‘comedy’ on this thread.

Im guessing you didn't read the thread on AE yesterday then

[Dirk Gently]

Had no idea so many kids were killed, tbh.

The demographic of football crowds has changed hugely in the last 20 years. The proportion of teenagers and 20-somethings is far lower, whilst the proportion of 40-somethings is increasing rapidly.

I'd love to see the average age of matchday crowd today compared to the 70s and 80s.

I don't have all the figures, but certainly the average age of a Premier League Season Ticket Holder is 43.

[Dirk Gently]

Well worth a read :

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/04/15/from_the_vault_the_human_error.html

[Jerry St Clair]

It was the first time I'd been also, however we were in the upper tier. You could see the tunnel and how obvious it is to assume that the tunnel was the entrance to all of lower tier not just the centre. The signs to left and right hand tiers are there, but you could easily miss them

They weren't there at all in 1989.

However, at the 1988 semi-final two stewards were placed at the entrance to the tunnel directing fans to the side pens when the central pens became full. They were absent too in 1989. Just one of a string of organisational failures that led to the disaster.

[Jerry St Clair]

Spacey/TBM, were you at Elm Park for the Wigan game the following week? Possibly one of the most emotional games of football I've ever been too - the minutes silence before the start was extraordinary. I remember a few people crying on the Southbank. I suspect your attitudes would be different had you attended.

[gazzer, loyal royal]

one of the 96 was Steve Gerrard's cousin.

does anyone have the link to the poem written about Hillsbrough. A pretty harrowing poem about a 14 year old kid who never made it back on to the bus

[gazzer, loyal royal]

http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/evopoem.shtm

found these but the one i'm looking for isn't there

[TBM]

Spacey/TBM, were you at Elm Park for the Wigan game the following week? Possibly one of the most emotional games of football I've ever been too - the minutes silence before the start was extraordinary. I remember a few people crying on the Southbank. I suspect your attitudes would be different had you attended.

do me a favour

Have a read of this thread and then you'll realise why i said what i did
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=74198&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60

[Stooper]

When do Bradford City remember their own dead?

May 11th

Indeed, a day I hold very dear and personal to me.

Who can forget the hilarious chanting of Reading fans to Bradford City..."What's it like to burn to death?"

[TBM]

When do Bradford City remember their own dead?

May 11th

Indeed, a day I hold very dear and personal to me.

Who can forget the hilarious chanting of Reading fans to Bradford City..."What's it like to burn to death?"

LOL