Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sanguine » 28 Jun 2017 09:27

Comes a day after Chinese investment in....Northampton Town. Talks already of them being 'the next Bournemouth'. Watch this space...

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 20 Jul 2017 16:33

Top 20 clubs by net debt

1. Manchester United - €536m
2. Benfica - €336m
3. Inter Milan - €306m
4. Valencia - €285m
5. QPR - €279m
6. AC Milan - €249m
7. CSKA Moscow - €224m
8. Galatasaray - €222m
9. Juventus - €209m
10. Roma - €208m
11. Sunderland - €208m
12. PSG - €186m
13. Fenerbahçe - €166m
14. Dinamo Moscow - €164m
15. Atlético de Madrid - €164M
16. Liverpool - €163m
17. Olympique Lyonnais - €159m
18. Monaco - €148m
19. Copenhagen - €138m
20. Schalke 04 - €137m


QPR??! :shock: :lol:

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sutekh » 20 Jul 2017 16:57

Winston Biscuit
Top 20 clubs by net debt

1. Manchester United - €536m
2. Benfica - €336m
3. Inter Milan - €306m
4. Valencia - €285m
5. QPR - €279m
6. AC Milan - €249m
7. CSKA Moscow - €224m
8. Galatasaray - €222m
9. Juventus - €209m
10. Roma - €208m
11. Sunderland - €208m
12. PSG - €186m
13. Fenerbahçe - €166m
14. Dinamo Moscow - €164m
15. Atlético de Madrid - €164M
16. Liverpool - €163m
17. Olympique Lyonnais - €159m
18. Monaco - €148m
19. Copenhagen - €138m
20. Schalke 04 - €137m


QPR??! :shock: :lol:


And yet they still manage to pass FFP rules.....

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Snowflake Royal » 20 Jul 2017 20:34

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Top 20 clubs by net debt

1. Manchester United - €536m
2. Benfica - €336m
3. Inter Milan - €306m
4. Valencia - €285m
5. QPR - €279m
6. AC Milan - €249m
7. CSKA Moscow - €224m
8. Galatasaray - €222m
9. Juventus - €209m
10. Roma - €208m
11. Sunderland - €208m
12. PSG - €186m
13. Fenerbahçe - €166m
14. Dinamo Moscow - €164m
15. Atlético de Madrid - €164M
16. Liverpool - €163m
17. Olympique Lyonnais - €159m
18. Monaco - €148m
19. Copenhagen - €138m
20. Schalke 04 - €137m


QPR??! :shock: :lol:


And yet they still manage to pass FFP rules.....

No, they failed them. Quite a lot of that debt went to very very good lawyers though.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by double d » 20 Jul 2017 20:43

How can man United be allowed to spend so much on players? Surely they must be banned for so much debt.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by BR0B0T » 20 Jul 2017 20:46

double d How can man United be allowed to spend so much on players? Surely they must be banned for so much debt.


err...have you noticed how the club with the biggest debt also has the most revenue

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by From Despair To Where? » 21 Jul 2017 22:58

Isn't most of their "debt" owed to the Glazers?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Reverend » 01 Sep 2017 19:17

PSG under FFP investigation

Nothing will come of it.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 02 Sep 2017 07:20

Committed to spending £210M on 2 players this sumer and sold £70M of players.

Committed to spending around £160M on a player in the next financial year so if they sell a few next year then the net spend on those is lower than some PL clubs.

Caveat - I know it's not as simple as those reported numbers as clubs report their finances in 'clever' ways but still, bring in pretty much only those 2 expensive players and sell some and it doesn't look bad in comparison to some other clubs.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by genome » 24 Oct 2017 15:11

QPR lose arbitration claims against their FFP fine, which could be up to £58m.


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Snowflake Royal » 24 Oct 2017 17:21

genome QPR lose arbitration claims against their FFP fine, which could be up to £58m.


So it'll rumble on with no action for another couple of years for their appeal then. Whilst they bet the farm on getting back into the PL to get out of the FL's jurisdiction.

Really, given how much they've tried to weasel their way out of this having knowingly and deliberately broken the rules for their own gain, they should just get kicked out and wound up. I'm sure a successor club could get up to at least the Conference in about 10 years having started from scratch like AFC Wimbledon.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Dec 2017 12:33

Cambridge Utd may be one to watch for this.

Don't own their ground, planning permission for a sports complex fell through, so the owner may have cooling interest.
Their Chairman just resigned, including from the Board of Directors.
Their Financial Director left on the quiet recently from what I'm told.
And I'm informed that someone else senior (I think the Chief Exec) is on gardening leave pending investigation for threatening to ruin Derry's career if he didn't get them up the table.

Bit of a tale of woe.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 18 Dec 2017 13:07

AC Milan in a mess too. Spend big in the summer under their new Chinese owner, UEFA decide to investigate the new owner as they are unsure about the loans he says he has bought the club with, the owner says all is legit so nothing to worry about......and then submits a request to UEFA to be exempt from FFP as they are going to fall foul quite badly and can't afford the fines that will come with it. lolwut! :lol:


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by genome » 01 Mar 2018 14:21

Brum in trouble.

Their alleged wage bill :shock:


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Tony Le Mesmer » 01 Mar 2018 17:59

Just wait until Reading hit this thread and we find how much our players are on.

Wont be long now

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by From Despair To Where? » 01 Mar 2018 19:25

genome Brum in trouble.

Their alleged wage bill :shock:




How many of them did 'Arry sign?

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by genome » 01 Mar 2018 19:56

From Despair To Where?
genome Brum in trouble.

Their alleged wage bill :shock:



How many of them did 'Arry sign?


Hmm, let's see... all of them.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 18 Mar 2018 15:34

Spanish press claiming that Atletico Madrid have been warned they may be banned from European competitions next season as their finances are such a mess.

It's been heavily reported that there is already a deal in place to take Griezmann to Barca this summer for €100M but they are reportedly touting Niguez around for a lot of money too. Didn't realise they built and moved to their new ground without selling the old one. It's still up for sale with the asking price reportedly dropped to €250M

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Awayawayaway » 18 Mar 2018 16:00

Winston Biscuit Spanish press claiming that Atletico Madrid have been warned they may be banned from European competitions next season as their finances are such a mess.

It's been heavily reported that there is already a deal in place to take Griezmann to Barca this summer for €100M but they are reportedly touting Niguez around for a lot of money too. Didn't realise they built and moved to their new ground without selling the old one. It's still up for sale with the asking price reportedly dropped to €250M


My favourite Spanish club so I hope they'll be ok.

Simone would be great in the prem.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by 3points » 26 May 2018 23:48

Villa apparently in all sorts of financial trouble apparently. They missed a £4m payment to HMRC this week and losing the play-off final could be the last straw. Dr Tony appears to have turned the tap off. Expect a fire sale.

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