CONFIMRED - Chris Martin (loan)

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Maneki Neko » 19 Jan 2018 09:55

Sutekh wrote:Let's not panic until the window shuts and once again Reading will have done sod all about a striker but more than likely will have got another midfielder in.


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by genome » 19 Jan 2018 10:07

Old Man Andrews wrote:
genome wrote:Well Sunderland probably have more money than us (parachute payments) so I imagine they have just come in and offered the exact amount Derby want.

Alan Nixon said we were negotiating with them over wages, so Sunderland have probably offered 100%.

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Sunderland trying hard for Chris Martin. Need him more than Reading. Could get done today.


But would you not agree it is silly of the club to let it drag on this long? Surely we could have wrapped this up in late December ready for January 1st. I am not devestated that we haven't got the player I am more annoyed that it would appear we have not got it done early allwoing another club to come in.


Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Old Man Andrews » 19 Jan 2018 10:24

genome wrote:
Old Man Andrews wrote:
genome wrote:Well Sunderland probably have more money than us (parachute payments) so I imagine they have just come in and offered the exact amount Derby want.

Alan Nixon said we were negotiating with them over wages, so Sunderland have probably offered 100%.

@reluctantnicko
Sunderland trying hard for Chris Martin. Need him more than Reading. Could get done today.


But would you not agree it is silly of the club to let it drag on this long? Surely we could have wrapped this up in late December ready for January 1st. I am not devestated that we haven't got the player I am more annoyed that it would appear we have not got it done early allwoing another club to come in.


Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?


I absolutely agree that Sunderland are in a better financial position but we should not have allowed it to get this far.

Are you saying that the club haven't dragged their heels at all on this one?

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hendo » 19 Jan 2018 10:32

genome wrote:
Old Man Andrews wrote:
genome wrote:Well Sunderland probably have more money than us (parachute payments) so I imagine they have just come in and offered the exact amount Derby want.

Alan Nixon said we were negotiating with them over wages, so Sunderland have probably offered 100%.

@reluctantnicko
Sunderland trying hard for Chris Martin. Need him more than Reading. Could get done today.


But would you not agree it is silly of the club to let it drag on this long? Surely we could have wrapped this up in late December ready for January 1st. I am not devestated that we haven't got the player I am more annoyed that it would appear we have not got it done early allwoing another club to come in.


Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?


Exactly this. Say we did throw money at a loan like Martin (like we did with another sticker who is at Derby) and it doesn't work out, I am sure that everyone would be blaming the club. If the money isn't right for us, it might be right for someone else. This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hendo » 19 Jan 2018 10:33

Old Man Andrews wrote:
genome wrote:
Old Man Andrews wrote:
But would you not agree it is silly of the club to let it drag on this long? Surely we could have wrapped this up in late December ready for January 1st. I am not devestated that we haven't got the player I am more annoyed that it would appear we have not got it done early allwoing another club to come in.


Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?


I absolutely agree that Sunderland are in a better financial position but we should not have allowed it to get this far.

Are you saying that the club haven't dragged their heels at all on this one?


Who's saying we are dragging our heels? We have made a bid, which might have been acceptable, Derby become aware of a team with more money sniffing around, they could be the ones stalling the deal.


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Old Man Andrews » 19 Jan 2018 10:35

Hendo wrote:
genome wrote:
Old Man Andrews wrote:
But would you not agree it is silly of the club to let it drag on this long? Surely we could have wrapped this up in late December ready for January 1st. I am not devestated that we haven't got the player I am more annoyed that it would appear we have not got it done early allwoing another club to come in.


Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?


Exactly this. Say we did throw money at a loan like Martin (like we did with another sticker who is at Derby) and it doesn't work out, I am sure that everyone would be blaming the club. If the money isn't right for us, it might be right for someone else. This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hendo » 19 Jan 2018 10:38

Old Man Andrews wrote:
Hendo wrote:
genome wrote:
Sometimes that's not possible. It depends how much Martin is being paid, how much money we have.

If we don't have the cash to do it, then we'll try and negotiate. If another club then comes in a waves all the cash at the selling club, what can we do?


Exactly this. Say we did throw money at a loan like Martin (like we did with another sticker who is at Derby) and it doesn't work out, I am sure that everyone would be blaming the club. If the money isn't right for us, it might be right for someone else. This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.


Johnny Panini?


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 19 Jan 2018 10:47

Maneki Neko wrote:
Sutekh wrote:Let's not panic until the window shuts and once again Reading will have done sod all about a striker but more than likely will have got another midfielder in.


^^^


This has happened once

Would have been good to have wrapped it up - but Sunderland were always in the chase. Presume Derby will come back to us and see if we want to pay what Sunderland are offering, and if we do it’s then up to Martin

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Old Man Andrews » 19 Jan 2018 10:56

Hound wrote:
Maneki Neko wrote:
Sutekh wrote:Let's not panic until the window shuts and once again Reading will have done sod all about a striker but more than likely will have got another midfielder in.


^^^


This has happened once

Would have been good to have wrapped it up - but Sunderland were always in the chase. Presume Derby will come back to us and see if we want to pay what Sunderland are offering, and if we do it’s then up to Martin


And what a choice that is! Lucky boy.


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by TiagoIlori » 19 Jan 2018 11:19

He’s supposed to be on 40k a week which Sunderland have probably agreed to cover completely. Derby definitely wanted to drum up more interest to try get the best offer. As annoying as it is... I think the club is being responsible with their spending for once

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 19 Jan 2018 11:30

I suspect Sunderland are far happier to pay that than us

If Martin is happy enough to join them, then it’s probably a done deal

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Wycombe Royal » 19 Jan 2018 11:39

Hendo wrote:This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.

Not any more.....

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Norfolk Royal » 19 Jan 2018 13:00

Have we dodged the Martin bullet yet?


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 19 Jan 2018 13:03

Wycombe Royal wrote:
Hendo wrote:This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.

Not any more.....


Are they not? Thought Rodwell has refused to rip up his contract unless I missed something

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Victor Meldrew » 19 Jan 2018 13:30

Norfolk Royal wrote:Have we dodged the Martin bullet yet?


Good to see somebody not creaming themselves over this possible transfer (you obviously know more about him than most from the Norwich days).
I always liked Martin but over the past couple of years he looks to have got slower and wanting to buy more and more free-kicks.
This is Trevor Morley 2018 style but we don't have a Caskey to cash-in on all the free-kicks gained.

If we get him that is at least another striker but if we don't (but get somebody else) I won't be too disappointed.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hendo » 19 Jan 2018 13:54

Hound wrote:
Wycombe Royal wrote:
Hendo wrote:This is Sunderland as well who are paying Jack Rodwell £70K/week, just to put it in some sort of perspective.

Not any more.....


Are they not? Thought Rodwell has refused to rip up his contract unless I missed something


Yeah, I thought that was the situation as well.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 19 Jan 2018 15:03

Update on SS news, went into some depth

Sunderland have agreed deal with Derby but ‘a lot of work to do’ to persuade Martin to move there

Reading still interested but have not as yet agreed deal with Derby

Suggested without saying in so many words that he’d rather come to us

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by John Smith » 19 Jan 2018 15:24

Hound wrote:Update on SS news, went into some depth

Sunderland have agreed deal with Derby but ‘a lot of work to do’ to persuade Martin to move there

Reading still interested but have not as yet agreed deal with Derby

Suggested without saying in so many words that he’d rather come to us

Well, according to Old Man Andrews he got homesick at Fulham, so coming 40 miles further west might be too tall an order for him to come!

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by TiagoIlori » 19 Jan 2018 15:32

Can’t see what we have over Sunderland. Personally I don’t think he’d go to us if he doesn’t want to join Sunderland...

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 19 Jan 2018 15:47

TiagoIlori wrote:Can’t see what we have over Sunderland. Personally I don’t think he’d go to us if he doesn’t want to join Sunderland...


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