CONFIMRED - Chris Martin (loan)

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by TiagoIlori » 12 Jan 2018 17:12

Hendo wrote:
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Tommio wrote:We need 22 points from 20 games to stay up roughly, what makes you think that we need to win nearly half our games?

Blackburn went down with 51 points last season and the bottom 3 sides seem to be picking up points all over the place. As I said winning nearly 10 games(or equivalent), is what will keep us up securely without any final day hassle...


Yet the year before, Charlton went down with 40 points?

Those 3 teams that went down were by far the worst teams in the championship, Rotherham would’ve been on par had they not turned into Barcelona. This year it’s a lot more competitive

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Sutekh » 12 Jan 2018 17:16

Hendo wrote:
TiagoIlori wrote:
Tommio wrote:We need 22 points from 20 games to stay up roughly, what makes you think that we need to win nearly half our games?

Blackburn went down with 51 points last season and the bottom 3 sides seem to be picking up points all over the place. As I said winning nearly 10 games(or equivalent), is what will keep us up securely without any final day hassle...


Yet the year before, Charlton went down with 40 points?


Peterborough hold the record of being relegated from division 2 football with the most points, 54, in 2013.

It is rare for relegation to be "achieved" with more than 50 points. Before last season the average points achieved by the club finishing 22nd over the previous 15 years was just under 46 while for the club finishing 21st it was just over 49. With this in mind I would say 8 wins worth of points should be sufficient (would take Reading to 52 points) but this will obviously become clearer as things develop

Let's hope 3 of the clubs below us start falling apart quickly.

Whatever happens Chris Martin added to the ranks should certainly help the cause - so long as Stam doesn't do to him what he did to Grabban last season.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Zip » 12 Jan 2018 17:30

I well remember we were relegated back to the basement division in 1982/3 on 53 points :twisted: Our playing record was won 12, drew 17, lost 17 which really wasn’t that bad.

Kerry Dixon left the club thereafter

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Norfolk Royal » 12 Jan 2018 19:05

£8-million bid from Derby for Oliveira.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 12 Jan 2018 20:12

Norwich should be walking this league considering how much their players seem to be worth!

Anyway, not sure they’ll sell. If they do to Derby then Martin will definitely be on his way


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by maffff » 12 Jan 2018 20:40

Norfolk Royal wrote:£8-million bid from Derby for Oliveira.

Derby end saying it's not true.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Sutekh » 13 Jan 2018 09:46

maffff wrote:
Norfolk Royal wrote:£8-million bid from Derby for Oliveira.

Derby end saying it's not true.


Is it the same source that said Reading bid £9m for him only for the Reading end to say it's not true.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by maffff » 13 Jan 2018 13:55

Sutekh wrote:
maffff wrote:
Norfolk Royal wrote:£8-million bid from Derby for Oliveira.

Derby end saying it's not true.


Is it the same source that said Reading bid £9m for him only for the Reading end to say it's not true.


HITC. Yep.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by RichTea94 » 13 Jan 2018 19:12

Unused sub today vs Brum. Winnall started with Vydra, Weimann and Nugent came off the bench.

Looks like Martin is at the bottom of the pecking order (well, except Nick Blackman...)


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Sutekh » 14 Jan 2018 11:03

RichTea94 wrote:Unused sub today vs Brum. Winnall started with Vydra, Weimann and Nugent came off the bench.

Looks like Martin is at the bottom of the pecking order (well, except Nick Blackman...)


Blackman is on loan in Israel so Martin would look to be bottom of what's left

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Maneki Neko » 15 Jan 2018 11:33

can I just mention how upsetting it is seeing vydra being all good again this season.

WTAF?!

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by windermereROYAL » 15 Jan 2018 11:44

Recurring theme with us , talented players coming here and not providing the goods. if he played in the 2006 team he would have got 30 goals .
Our fans gave him a hard time but you don't turn into a bad player over night.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by genome » 15 Jan 2018 11:45

windermereROYAL wrote:Recurring theme with us , talented players coming here and not providing the goods. if he played in the 2006 team he would have got 30 goals .
Our fans gave him a hard time but you don't turn into a bad player over night.


I imagine that happens to loads of clubs, not just us.

How many great RFC players have moved on only to be shit elsewhere?


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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 15 Jan 2018 12:00

windermereROYAL wrote:Recurring theme with us , talented players coming here and not providing the goods. if he played in the 2006 team he would have got 30 goals .
Our fans gave him a hard time but you don't turn into a bad player over night.


They didn’t really. He tried hard but just had a rotten season. Some of the chances he missed were horrendous

Considering the cost of the loan we all expected better. There was clearly a good player there, but his confidence was totally shot

He was pretty useless last year as well tbf. Wasn’t that he magically became great again the minute he left us

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hendo » 15 Jan 2018 13:52

genome wrote:
windermereROYAL wrote:Recurring theme with us , talented players coming here and not providing the goods. if he played in the 2006 team he would have got 30 goals .
Our fans gave him a hard time but you don't turn into a bad player over night.


I imagine that happens to loads of clubs, not just us.

How many great RFC players have moved on only to be shit elsewhere?


Quite a fair few have left and done nothing.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Coppells Lost Coat » 15 Jan 2018 14:22

Hendo wrote:
genome wrote:
windermereROYAL wrote:Recurring theme with us , talented players coming here and not providing the goods. if he played in the 2006 team he would have got 30 goals .
Our fans gave him a hard time but you don't turn into a bad player over night.


I imagine that happens to loads of clubs, not just us.

How many great RFC players have moved on only to be shit elsewhere?


Quite a fair few have left and done nothing.

Its swings and roundabouts tbh. Vydra just needed the right manager, Rowett is getting the best out of him with the style of play. Our management at the time seemed to suck the life out of everyone when he was here.
Some players have moved on and played a level above than we expected they could through the right development - Antonio
Most of the 106 team when moved on didn't really set the footballing world alight.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by genome » 16 Jan 2018 12:26

Reading 'favourites' to sign Derby County striker Chris Martin

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/f ... ar_twitter

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Old Man Andrews » 16 Jan 2018 12:32

genome wrote:Reading 'favourites' to sign Derby County striker Chris Martin

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/f ... ar_twitter


The more I have thought about this the more pleased I am. We just need someone to come in and give everyone a lift regardless of if they have played much football or not. He's not the greatest and his last loan wasn't great but I don't think we can be fussy at the moment.

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Hound » 16 Jan 2018 12:42

thats barely news to be honest, just some bookie odds. I'm a little disappointed if there is an opportunity here we haven't got it settled by now. We could do with that lift asap

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Re: Rumour - Chris Martin

by Longhorn1970 » 16 Jan 2018 12:56

NewCorkSeth wrote:
genome wrote:Reading fans: Sign a striker ffs!!!
*Reading are interested in Chris Martin*
Also Reading fans: Ugh, not that one

Hilarious isn't it. I quite like Martin. He's been a good champ level striker for a while now.


With the right service, most strikers look good tbf. Looking at the figures we are already operating a 20% loss so to increase the wage bill by a further £30-40k a week is unlikely imo

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