John Smithgenome OK. Troll.
And the last away game you went to was?
Fulham. So by your logic, if you're a season ticket holder but don't attend away matches, you're not a real fan?
by genome » 15 Jun 2018 14:11
John Smithgenome OK. Troll.
And the last away game you went to was?
by Hound » 15 Jun 2018 14:20
by Norfolk Royal » 15 Jun 2018 15:12
by One87One » 15 Jun 2018 15:14
Hound see HITC have picked up the Swift thing. Thought for a minute there may be something in it, until I saw them referencing the chronicle as their source
Norfolk Royal This is all about the demise of local papers in general isn't it? Back in the days the Evening Post and sometimes the Chronicle were a must read for supporters as it was the only way to see pictures and full reports of the games.
The EP had some good reporters in those days as well, Russel Kempson and Graham Nickless I remember for decent match reports.
Since clubs took over their own PR and keep any news in house it has become a lot more difficult for reporters to get alongside managers and players etc outside the confines of what the club actually allows on their drip feed of info.
You could argue of course that it is up to the reporters concerned to bust through that barrier and find their own sources and there is some merit in that point of view but they are now operating in a different and under resourced era for the local press, (closure of the EP for instance) and press in general bar the BBC, where they perhaps don't have the time or resource to devote the time needed to provide a comprehensive service.
That is why you get them pouncing on twitter posts etc, as it has become the go to resource in the lack of any other. That and the need for clickbait to justify advertising ensures the twitter rumours are not checked and just rehashed as a story. Let's say the likes of Low, Courtney, or whoever did try to check twitter rumours with the club. They'll probably wait hours, or days, before a no comment response from one of the club's media team.
They have a pretty thankless task in the internet era to retain some veneer of being responsible journalists in my view, one that they cannot win in reality.
by Hound » 15 Jun 2018 15:31
by genome » 15 Jun 2018 15:35
by Norfolk Royal » 15 Jun 2018 15:40
Old Man AndrewsNorfolk Royal This is all about the demise of local papers in general isn't it? Back in the days the Evening Post and sometimes the Chronicle were a must read for supporters as it was the only way to see pictures and full reports of the games.
The EP had some good reporters in those days as well, Russel Kempson and Graham Nickless I remember for decent match reports.
Since clubs took over their own PR and keep any news in house it has become a lot more difficult for reporters to get alongside managers and players etc outside the confines of what the club actually allows on their drip feed of info.
You could argue of course that it is up to the reporters concerned to bust through that barrier and find their own sources and there is some merit in that point of view but they are now operating in a different and under resourced era for the local press, (closure of the EP for instance) and press in general bar the BBC, where they perhaps don't have the time or resource to devote the time needed to provide a comprehensive service.
That is why you get them pouncing on twitter posts etc, as it has become the go to resource in the lack of any other. That and the need for clickbait to justify advertising ensures the twitter rumours are not checked and just rehashed as a story. Let's say the likes of Low, Courtney, or whoever did try to check twitter rumours with the club. They'll probably wait hours, or days, before a no comment response from one of the club's media team.
They have a pretty thankless task in the internet era to retain some veneer of being responsible journalists in my view, one that they cannot win in reality.
All of what you have said is true, cannot be denied.
I think the problem we have as a club is that the Chronicle guys in particular are absolutely abysmal at their job. I am not having a fully qualified journalist saying they have missed out on reporting club stories for a week because of "phone issues" or "log in issues". He missed the John O'Shea story because he was "dropping off kids and driving all over the place". It's shoddy.
by TiagoIlori » 15 Jun 2018 23:43
by bobby1413 » 16 Jun 2018 05:38
Hound I don't mind JLow - he has improved a lot. Quite liked the grumpy version at the end of the last season who was handing out 2s and 3s in his match ratings. He obviously has no contacts whatsoever, but get the feeling he at least tries
by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jun 2018 07:36
by TiagoIlori » 16 Jun 2018 12:06
by maffff » 18 Jun 2018 13:59
From Despair To Where? I like the fact that Low made no excuses for being duped by the Yermas Dildo rumour instead of trying to bluster his way out of it with some bullshit. I think it takes the bigger man to admit you've been fooled by such an obvious spoof.
maffffFrom Despair To Where? I like the fact that Low made no excuses for being duped by the Yermas Dildo rumour instead of trying to bluster his way out of it with some bullshit. I think it takes the bigger man to admit you've been fooled by such an obvious spoof.
+1, good bloke. He's trying despite very limited access.
by maffff » 18 Jun 2018 16:36
Old Man Andrews The Chronic just rip you off, don't they?
by WAZZOCK » 19 Jun 2018 14:30
by Hound » 20 Jun 2018 08:58
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