by KentRoyal » 06 Oct 2018 18:01
by Zip » 06 Oct 2018 18:14
by Lower West » 06 Oct 2018 18:30
by Zip » 06 Oct 2018 18:34
Lower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
by KentRoyal » 06 Oct 2018 18:35
ZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
by Lower West » 06 Oct 2018 21:24
ZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
by Zip » 06 Oct 2018 21:56
Lower WestZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
I went to watch Swindon vs Northampton Town today. I saw less talented players on both sides put in more commitment and effort than a huge number of Reading players in the past two seasons. Football wasn't pretty. But at least you couldn't accuse any single player of not putting in a shift for their teammates. Managers cannot change the mentality of individuals. Too many passengers in the Reading squad in my personal opinion. Dropping a division would at least enable Clement to blood our own youth. Rather than speculate on the next overpaid prima donna journeyman.
by sandman » 06 Oct 2018 22:14
by Top Flight » 07 Oct 2018 00:35
ZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
by Ranty McRantface » 07 Oct 2018 02:20
Top FlightZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
Zip, it is not Clements fault that results are bad. This is the result of a number of years of poor management and recruitment. Any manager we appoint will suffer bad results until he can get this ship turned around. There is no quick fix to this mess. We have to be patient and give Clement our full support. The fans in the stand at West Brom today showed more intelligence than you. They were not asking for Clement to be sacked. It is the board and Gourlay that they want out. Because that is where the poor decisions have come from. Clement needs our support. Let's give it to him. He is a top coach, a good manager and a very straight and honest man. If we can't back a guy like that then we have no chance as a club.
by DOYLERSAROYALER » 07 Oct 2018 07:39
by Zip » 07 Oct 2018 10:23
Top FlightZipLower West Clinging on to the hope that a new manager is going to save the day makes little sense. Time to rebuild. To move forward we need to suffer the bad performances.
Ok. At what point do you say it’s time to go? Do you give Clement the entire season even if it means we go down? I think it would be very painful for us as a club to go back down to the lower divisions.
Zip, it is not Clements fault that results are bad. This is the result of a number of years of poor management and recruitment. Any manager we appoint will suffer bad results until he can get this ship turned around. There is no quick fix to this mess. We have to be patient and give Clement our full support. The fans in the stand at West Brom today showed more intelligence than you. They were not asking for Clement to be sacked. It is the board and Gourlay that they want out. Because that is where the poor decisions have come from. Clement needs our support. Let's give it to him. He is a top coach, a good manager and a very straight and honest man. If we can't back a guy like that then we have no chance as a club.
by Millsy » 07 Oct 2018 13:21
by Lower West » 07 Oct 2018 17:30
2 world wars, 1 world cup It seems right now we're still living with this fairyland idea that we need a couple of tweaks to be promotion candidates and so are totally getting the wrong staff in.
by Millsy » 07 Oct 2018 19:13
Lower West2 world wars, 1 world cup It seems right now we're still living with this fairyland idea that we need a couple of tweaks to be promotion candidates and so are totally getting the wrong staff in.
Hopefully few supporters are that deluded.
by Top Flight » 08 Oct 2018 03:44
ZipTop FlightZip
So on the basis of what you are saying we should not have sacked Stam, McDermott, Clarke etc.
by Snowflake Royal » 08 Oct 2018 07:43
Snowflake Royal Yeah.
Adkins: 50/50 not convinced it was that bad and he was scapegoated for Anton's mess. We hadn't spent years proving sackings didn't work though.
Clarke: Position untenable. His success was built on Blackman being in the form of his life which had already ended too, we were nose diving
McDermott2: Dreadful decision unless there were big behind the scenes issues
Stam: Position untenable. Huge difference in results between seasons, awful inflexible style putting needless pressure on us with no drive to score.
Clement may still be getting shit results, but he's changed the style to one that involves trying to win and not playing the game in our own box. It is the players that are letting us down and many of Clements signings look like our best players. Plus the weight of years of underperformance and losing now present a huge amount of inertia to turn around compared to that facing those who went before.
by Ranty McRantface » 08 Oct 2018 08:25
Old Man AndrewsSnowflake Royal Yeah.
Adkins: 50/50 not convinced it was that bad and he was scapegoated for Anton's mess. We hadn't spent years proving sackings didn't work though.
Clarke: Position untenable. His success was built on Blackman being in the form of his life which had already ended too, we were nose diving
McDermott2: Dreadful decision unless there were big behind the scenes issues
Stam: Position untenable. Huge difference in results between seasons, awful inflexible style putting needless pressure on us with no drive to score.
Clement may still be getting shit results, but he's changed the style to one that involves trying to win and not playing the game in our own box. It is the players that are letting us down and many of Clements signings look like our best players. Plus the weight of years of underperformance and losing now present a huge amount of inertia to turn around compared to that facing those who went before.
So you'd like us to sack the players then?
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