by Nameless »
01 Feb 2019 20:06
Snowflake Royal Nameless Snowflake Royal I've already said how I'd measure it.
Funny how you decide the majority just agrees with you.
I tend to use a more conventional measure of majority - there’s you saying he’s shit and everyone else disagreeing (with Hendo flip flopping depending on who posted last !)
Your idea that you can ‘measure’ positive influence of an individual with a nebulous concept of whether a defence (of which O’Shea has not usually been part of) looks less clueless than it did previously doesn’t really hold water. Specially if you refuse to accept the fact that the defensive record is actually better when O’Shea has played ....
I suggest you read more widely. It's certainly not just me. In fact it's far from my perception that the majority agree with you he's been ok.
I can hardly be the one faulted that the claim he's a positive influence is nebulous and unsupported. A claim entirely separate to performance when he plays btw. And based solely on his having played for a long time and in a successful Utd side plus wishful thinking (it seems to me)
Show me some evidence of his positive influence and I'll give it consideration. Asserting with nothing ain't good enough for me.
It is kind of logical that the definition of ‘majority’ in this instance needs to be based on views expressed on the thread !
I would have thought you would be all for that given it is measureable !
By all means extend your definition to ‘all Reading supporters’ but good luck measuring it.
For the record amongst the fans I know there isn’t a general view that O’Shea has been shit. One or two think he was an odd signing, a couple think he’s great when we’re playing a route 1 type side and most (ok the other 2) don’t think he stands out either way in an under performing squad.