by genome » 31 Oct 2017 12:37
by muirinho » 31 Oct 2017 12:38
Elm Park Kid Basic analysis:
I think most people are confident that even if we don't improve much under Stam that we wont go down - we can beat enough bottom table teams at home to be comfortable. Also I think most people would accept that a new manager coming in is unlikely to lead to a promotion push. So our season is going to end up the same regardless of whether we sack him or not.
When looking at the long term success, I think our issue is finances not the manager. He achieved optimal results last season given the team at his disposal and there's no reason (IMO) to believe that a new one is doing better with more money. Sorry, I know there's RFC fans out there that always believe that we've got a load of amazing players (esp. those home grown youngsters who "never get a chance") and that the only reason we're not winning the champs league is because the manager messes up, but the truth is that our team is slightly above average at best. FIring Stam without any other fundamental change at the club and hoping for more success is unrealistic to me.
However, we have also played a style of football under Stam that many of us don't like; and so personally, I would like him to go. Not because I think we'd do better but because I think I would enjoy watching Reading more with a different manager. Ask yourself which season did you enjoy more - McDermott's first full season when we finished 6th and lost in the PO final 4-2 or last season when we finished 3rd and lost on penalties?
by bcubed » 31 Oct 2017 12:49
genome I wonder if it's a worth setting up an In or Out 2.0 poll, if we fail to win this evening?
by Ascotexgunner » 31 Oct 2017 12:52
by windermereROYAL » 31 Oct 2017 12:56
Ascotexgunner That poll has got a tad closer......
Just as a follow on I just wonder how many fans on here are hoping we lose just to hammer the final nails in the coffin.....
Im just putting it out there......Although come to think of it, it does sound a bit trollish.....
bcubedgenome I wonder if it's a worth setting up an In or Out 2.0 poll, if we fail to win this evening?
if there was a poll on whether to do this or not I'd vote Yes
by Hound » 31 Oct 2017 13:09
by Oilroyal » 31 Oct 2017 15:03
by Denver Royal » 31 Oct 2017 15:55
Elm Park Kid FIring Stam without any other fundamental change at the club and hoping for more success is unrealistic to me.
However, we have also played a style of football under Stam that many of us don't like; and so personally, I would like him to go.
Not because I think we'd do better with another manager but because I think I would enjoy watching Reading more with a different manager.
by Half Biscuit » 31 Oct 2017 15:58
Elm Park Kid I think most people are confident that even if we don't improve much under Stam that we wont go down - we can beat enough bottom table teams at home to be comfortable.
by marcusopp » 31 Oct 2017 19:04
Elm Park Kid Basic analysis:
I think most people are confident that even if we don't improve much under Stam that we wont go down - we can beat enough bottom table teams at home to be comfortable. Also I think most people would accept that a new manager coming in is unlikely to lead to a promotion push. So our season is going to end up the same regardless of whether we sack him or not.
When looking at the long term success, I think our issue is finances not the manager. He achieved optimal results last season given the team at his disposal and there's no reason (IMO) to believe that a new one is doing better with more money. Sorry, I know there's RFC fans out there that always believe that we've got a load of amazing players (esp. those home grown youngsters who "never get a chance") and that the only reason we're not winning the champs league is because the manager messes up, but the truth is that our team is slightly above average at best. FIring Stam without any other fundamental change at the club and hoping for more success is unrealistic to me.
However, we have also played a style of football under Stam that many of us don't like; and so personally, I would like him to go. Not because I think we'd do better but because I think I would enjoy watching Reading more with a different manager. Ask yourself which season did you enjoy more - McDermott's first full season when we finished 6th and lost in the PO final 4-2 or last season when we finished 3rd and lost on penalties?
by Half Biscuit » 31 Oct 2017 21:26
Half BiscuitElm Park Kid I think most people are confident that even if we don't improve much under Stam that we wont go down - we can beat enough bottom table teams at home to be comfortable.
At the moment, I can't see us beating anyone, home or away.
by CountryRoyal » 31 Oct 2017 21:30
by Hound » 31 Oct 2017 21:38
by CountryRoyal » 31 Oct 2017 22:02
Hound It’s all well and good winning that game and winning it well, and I’m delighted about it
But Stam needs to learn from it again.
And he needs to keep Yann, Bacuna, Barrow and Swift fit
by Hound » 31 Oct 2017 22:08
by biff » 31 Oct 2017 23:25
Hound It’s all well and good winning that game and winning it well, and I’m delighted about it
But Stam needs to learn from it again.
And he needs to keep Yann, Bacuna, Barrow and Swift fit
by windermereROYAL » 31 Oct 2017 23:37
by Hound » 01 Nov 2017 06:34
biffHound It’s all well and good winning that game and winning it well, and I’m delighted about it
But Stam needs to learn from it again.
And he needs to keep Yann, Bacuna, Barrow and Swift fit
Post match he felt we played better against Boro, so I wouldn't hold your breath.
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