double d Pope - Outside chance but been my favourite British keeper to watch this season. I think he HAS to go to WC. Looks tall, imposing and doing very well in a solid Burnley team..
by Sanguine » 15 Mar 2018 12:50
double d I think Kane will be the one to carry us! If he is on form then we will get to the Semi's.
We also need to sort out goalkeeping situation out because at the moment it seems that none of our goalkeepers actually WANT to go to the wc.
Hart - Been abysmal for 3 years.
Forster - Terrible season and rightly dropped
Heaton - Decent but Injured still and not fit
Butland - Decent in a terrible side but dear god against Messi etc would get murdered
Pickford - Good but very young an inexperienced and unsure if he would be able to handle that
Pope - Outside chance but been my favourite British keeper to watch this season. I think he HAS to go to WC. Looks tall, imposing and doing very well in a solid Burnley team.
Angus Gunn. No.
Sanguinedouble d I think Kane will be the one to carry us! If he is on form then we will get to the Semi's.
We also need to sort out goalkeeping situation out because at the moment it seems that none of our goalkeepers actually WANT to go to the wc.
Hart - Been abysmal for 3 years.
Forster - Terrible season and rightly dropped
Heaton - Decent but Injured still and not fit
Butland - Decent in a terrible side but dear god against Messi etc would get murdered
Pickford - Good but very young an inexperienced and unsure if he would be able to handle that
Pope - Outside chance but been my favourite British keeper to watch this season. I think he HAS to go to WC. Looks tall, imposing and doing very well in a solid Burnley team.
Angus Gunn. No.
Butland for me, with Pickford on his tail. Hart has had enough chances, and has been awful for Torino and West Ham. Forster is bizarre - should have been Hart's replacement, and for a decade, but has lost all form. Can't say I've noticed Heaton enough to comment. Pickford the better shot-stopper but Butland the better all-round keeper. Flip a coin really.
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2018 13:33
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2018 14:10
by BR0B0T » 15 Mar 2018 16:21
by bcubed » 15 Mar 2018 16:38
BR0B0T Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, Nick Pope, Jordan Pickford, Jack Butland
Defenders
Ryan Bertrand, Joe Gomez, Harry Maguire, Alfie Mawson, Danny Rose, John Stones, James Tarkowski, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker
Midfielders
Dele Alli, Lewis Cook, Eric Dier, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana, Jesse Lingard, Jake Livermore, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jack Wilshere, Ashley Young
Forwards
Marcus Rashford, Jamie Vardy, Danny Welbeck, Raheem Sterling
completely whelming
by BR0B0T » 15 Mar 2018 16:46
by Hoop Blah » 16 Mar 2018 08:44
bcubed The lack of regular starters is worrying
by bcubed » 16 Mar 2018 09:11
Hoop Blahbcubed The lack of regular starters is worrying
Regular for England, or regular for their clubs?
by Hoop Blah » 16 Mar 2018 09:17
bcubed I meant for their clubs, although with squad rotation these days it's more difficult to say how many games is regular
by Hoop Blah » 19 Mar 2018 09:24
Hoop Blah I caught a bit of the Sunday Supplement on Sky yesterday and they were bemoaning the lack of established star names and big game players etc in the England squad (which is fair comment to an extent) but is just typical of our thirst for celebrity and named performers over an effective team.
What I found a bit odd was, at the same time as belittling the claims of Pope and Tarkowski to a place in the squad (despite them both being consistent performers in the Premier League this season), they also criticised Southgate for not being bolder and bringing more of the young players who'd been part of the successful age group sides over the last few years.
Southgate has already introduced 5 or 6 of them into his squad (both previously and in this one) and did exactly that in adding Lewis Cook to this one. One name they threw in was Sancho, obviously not bothered by the fact he hasn't played for about 6 weeks!
I'm all for keeping expectations low but it seems some of the press pack are already lining up to have a pop at England...
by Hoop Blah » 19 Mar 2018 11:38
Old Man Andrews Good news doesn't sell though. The media cannot wait for Southgate to fail this summer, he's about as easy and soft of a target you'll ever find.
I don't rate Southgate in the slightest for what its worth but I am prepared to give him a tournament before I judge him.
by Sanguine » 19 Mar 2018 15:56
Sanguine Not sure Southgate has let himself down at all yet. Two defeats - one poor performance in Germany, but a draw or even a win in France wouldn't have been a disgrace. Outside of that we've conceded just 5 times in 11 games, got decent draws with Germany and Brazil in last November's friendlies, and as you say Southgate has introduced a number of new faces to the squad (and quickly binned the old boys' culture that had seen the likes of Rooney stick around for longer than he should have).
He's doing a lot of good things - best thing that could happen (and it won't) is that he gets space to try, and even fail, in Russia. I'd sooner take the likes of say, Maguire over Cahill (based on form) and we lose in the second round than take players on reputation and go out at the same stage. Fwiw I think Southgate is one of the only managers around with the strength of mind to do that.
by Hoop Blah » 20 Mar 2018 10:12
Old Man Andrews My argument is he shouldn't have been given the job in the first place. He is dangerously under qualified, seriously lacks experience at club level and failed at club level.
That being said he is in charge now so there is no point in being negative about him or England at this stage. I think the quarter finals are very achieveable for England this summer.
by Sanguine » 20 Mar 2018 10:37
Old Man AndrewsSanguine Not sure Southgate has let himself down at all yet. Two defeats - one poor performance in Germany, but a draw or even a win in France wouldn't have been a disgrace. Outside of that we've conceded just 5 times in 11 games, got decent draws with Germany and Brazil in last November's friendlies, and as you say Southgate has introduced a number of new faces to the squad (and quickly binned the old boys' culture that had seen the likes of Rooney stick around for longer than he should have).
He's doing a lot of good things - best thing that could happen (and it won't) is that he gets space to try, and even fail, in Russia. I'd sooner take the likes of say, Maguire over Cahill (based on form) and we lose in the second round than take players on reputation and go out at the same stage. Fwiw I think Southgate is one of the only managers around with the strength of mind to do that.
My argument is he shouldn't have been given the job in the first place. He is dangerously under qualified, seriously lacks experience at club level and failed at club level.
That being said he is in charge now so there is no point in being negative about him or England at this stage. I think the quarter finals are very achieveable for England this summer.
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