SCIAG wrote:Perhaps it would be more enlightening to compare this season's performances to last season's. Has Swift started making fewer incisive passes? Is Gunter making fewer tackles? Is Joey passing backwards more? That way you're actually using a comparison rather than just looking at numbers and trying to judge if they are high or low.
SCIAG wrote:Central problem here is that you are using a lot of numbers with no context. For example, you say our full backs weren't making "enough" clearances. How many clearances should a full back make? How many does Kyle Walker make? What about a good full back in a struggling Championship side? And what on Earth constitutes "too much" sideways passing - surely this is situational and tactical?
SCIAG wrote:Probably the best illustration of this is the focus you place on a player who only played a single match. Holmes' tendency to pass forwards doesn't necessarily reflect his preference for forward passes, just that he played in a match where Stam had clearly told the team to kick it long. Likewise his lack of clearances or blocks - Bolton barely had an attack. It would be sensible to discard Holmes and Obita from these considerations.
Hound wrote:to be fair, there is some interesting stuff in there, but agree it lacks context without comparing to last season for example.
Some stuff is very telling - ie Aluko 1.84 crosses a game (when Obita put in 10 in a single 45 mins with a 30% success rate). But then I suppose we know Aluko is rubbish anyway without the stats backing it up
Royal1988 wrote:SCIAG wrote:Perhaps it would be more enlightening to compare this season's performances to last season's.
Unfortunately, I do not have the stats for last season, to compare them, so I am unable to do that.
Old Man Andrews wrote:Yay another "what went wrong" thread!
The answer is f*cking everything.
Denver Royal wrote:Stam had one very good season, esp considering where we had been, and then he had one bad season.
Denver Royal wrote:Lower West wrote:Denver Royal wrote:Stam had one very good season, esp considering where we had been, and then he had one bad season.
Can hardly say that the very good season was memorable for the quality of the football. There were enough indifferent / poor performances to suggest that the squad was "fragile".
Nobody said we were quality, although that was higher priority for some, after finishing 17th and 19th, than it was for me. Wasn't shocked at 'indifferent' performances, esp foreign manager in first season in management.
Didnt expect to 'do a Wolves' and dominate. (Wolves supporting mate tells me they had some 'indifferent performances' this season).
But hey, if/when we come that close to PL again, then I might, along with you, view it with more scrutiny. If Clement, more experienced and having arrived much earlier here, in his first season reaches playoff final...I'll be looking for the 'quality'.
Y21 wrote:No plan B.
El Diablo wrote:Too many players whose careers are on the way down, and IMO lack appetite
muirinho wrote: Not as good as they think they are
John Smith wrote:muirinho wrote: Not as good as they think they are
What a really poorly thought out post. How many games did you go to last season?