Not enough goals

[SouthDownsRoyal]

and therefore we wont go up

Simple as that.

[SLAMMED]

6th best team in the league for goals?

[Wycombe Royal]

[SouthDownsRoyal]

Come back after the season is over and see.

I'll revive this thread after the last game.

[Super Royals]

and therefore we wont go up

Simple as that.

The goals aren't the problem - it's the games they come in, we'll hit 3 or 4 one game and then the next game we only score 1

[SLAMMED]

Fuck off newbie.

[Pseud O'Nym]

6th best team in the league for goals?

22nd for clean sheets. Too many goals at the wrong end, though it's improved since Leigertwood arrived.

[super darren caskey]

This is a stupid thread! We are doing just fine.Im happy

[Super Royals]

Fuck off newbie.

[leww_rfc]

and therefore we wont go up

Simple as that.

The goals aren't the problem - it's the games they come in, we'll hit 3 or 4 one game and then the next game we only score 1

Oxf*rd off newbie

[Snowball]

6th best team in the league for goals?

22nd for clean sheets. Too many goals at the wrong end, though it's improved since Leigertwood arrived.

INCORRECT

and we have joint second-best goal-difference

[Svlad Cjelli]

Thing is when we win we win emphatically - e.g. 4-0 at Burnley, 3-0 at Donny and so on. I'd prefer that we'd won those two 1-0 and scored one more goal in the many games we drew.

So it's not the number of goals being scored or conceded - it's the distribution of goals.

[Ian Royal]

Thing is when we win we win emphatically - e.g. 4-0 at Burnley, 3-0 at Donny and so on. I'd prefer that we'd won those two 1-0 and scored one more goal in the many games we drew.

So it's not the number of goals being scored or conceded - it's the distribution of goals.

Which is a sign our problem is confidence and composure... when we get going we're as good, or better than most, but we struggle with the initial breaking down and lose our way if things don't go right.

It's our nature that when we've got a team beaten, we keep going - hence half our league wins have been by three goal winning margins. The team is shy in the goalscorers dept at the moment. Hunt, Kebe and Church have a certain amount of pedigree, as does Harte depending on set piece taking. But we need at least one of them to start heading towards double figures whilst Long continues to move towards 15+

[TedBundy89]

Perhaps there might be a thing such as "we can't win every game".

Why do we have to go up this season?

[Snowball]

Relatively, we play a tighter game, conceding less, hence we don't have to score bucketloads.

That's why our sixth-best attack and very good defence leaves us second-best GD after QPR.

When McDermott let the brakes off we scored more but conceded more, 4-3, 1-1, 3-3, 1-3

The fact that we seem able to shut down other teams (our latest-minute for conceding a goal is 73rd I think)
is due to that caution and/or us going for the winner or killer goal and other teams settling for what they've got.

Don't look at goals scored OR goals conceded but the combination

Leeds, for example, have conceded 45 goals, Watford 39

[Wimb]

Relatively, we play a tighter game, conceding less, hence we don't have to score bucketloads.

That's why our sixth-best attack and very good defence leaves us second-best GD after QPR.

When McDermott let the brakes off we scored more but conceded more, 4-3, 1-1, 3-3, 1-3

The fact that we seem able to shut down other teams (our latest-minute for conceding a goal is 73rd I think)
is due to that caution and/or us going for the winner or killer goal and other teams settling for what they've got.

Don't look at goals scored OR goals conceded but the combination

Leeds, for example, have conceded 45 goals, Watford 39

A good point Snowy, but to propose a counter argument and expand on Svad and others have been saying, 19 times in 30 games we've scored 1 goal or less now. Obviously you sometimes only need 1 goal to win a game but it's not ideal as the defensive 'strength' isn't quite as strong as may appear

While it may seem our defence is tight, we usually concede at least one goal, having conceded in two thirds of our games (10 clean sheets, of which 2 were cup games and 3 were in 0-0 draws) and it helps show why we are 8th and not in the top 3 in The Championship.

By my rough calculations, 24 of our 46 total goals (league and cup) have come in 7 games against Northampton, Barnsley, Donny (twice), Norwich, Bristol City and Burnley, so over 50% of our goals come in around 25% of our games. That stat lends weight to the idea that we don't have the killer instinct we need to be comfortable and to regularly WIN games.

Quite simply if you're conceding at least 1 goal in two thirds of your matches and only scoring an average of 1 goal in the same ratio then you're either going to find wins hard to come by or have an extreme run of 1-0 wins, and to me that shows exactly WHY we're drawing so often.

God that's hurt my brain slightly, I don't know how you stat so much

[Percy's Rocket]

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Why do we have to go up this season?

Because with the new 4 season parachute payments the relegated premier clubs are going to get much harder to overtake

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Perhaps there might be a thing such as "we can't win every game".

Why do we have to go up this season?

Because it is football, that is the point of the game, to move up each season until you reach the pinacle of the pyramid, when we cant go up, then I will look at the highest position, am not always one for positivity, but realism seems appropriate at the minute, getting up could do us a power of good, The Prem seems less good than when we were last there, and there are not really any stand out teams at this level, so we should have a better chance of advancing to being the yo yo club people said would make them happy.

Trouble is following relegation, folk seem to want us to stay down. So just a yo club really.

Much prefer us to be where Blackpool are and causing upsets.

[Snowball]

24 of Reading's goals (58.5%) came in 26% of games.There is nothing significant in the stats.

Look at the other clubsWatford have had six 3's and a 4 = 22 goals out of 52 (43% 26% of games)
Leeds have had five 3's and three 4s = 27 goals (52% in 8/28 = 28.6% of their games)
Cardiff have had 2 x 3 and 4 x 4 = 22/45 goals (49%) in 6/27 = 22% of their games

Columns are Blanks-1-2-3-4-5-6 goals, Played/Goals/Goals per game

Goals
4 04 10 6 1 0 1 26-52 2.00 Watford
3 09 08 5 3 0 0 28-52 1.86 Leeds United
7 04 07 6 2 0 0 26-44 1.69 Queens Park Rangers
6 07 08 2 4 0 0 27-45 1.67 Cardiff City
3 12 07 2 3 0 0 27-44 1.63 Norwich City
5 06 08 6 0 0 0 25-40 1.60 Doncaster Rovers
6 11 03 4 3 0 0 27-41 1.52 Reading
8 07 04 4 3 0 0 27-41 1.52 Burnley
7 08 09 2 1 1 0 28-41 1.46 Leicester City

So of the challengers QPR (TOP), Burnley (11), Leicester (10) have had more blanks, Cardiff (2nd) the same

Norwich (3rd) have had TWELVE 1-goal games, Reading 11, Leeds 9, Leicester 8



There is one way you can portray Reading as struggling and that's to combine blanks and single goals
BUT the correlation between those totals (RFC = 17) and position isn't great, just 0.51 or 51%

The c orrelation between GD and position for these same clubs is 75%

17 Reading 8th (GD 13)
16 Forest 6th (GD 13)
15 Burnley 11th (GD 6)
15 Leicester 10th (GD -5)
15 Norwich 3rd (GD 9)
13 Cardiff 2nd (GD 12)
12 Leeds 5th GD 7)
11 QPR top (GD 27)
11 Doncaster 15th (GD-3)
08 Watford 7th (GD 13)

[Wimb]

There is one way you can portray Reading as struggling and that's to combine blanks and single goals
BUT the correlation between those totals (RFC = 17) and position isn't great, just 0.51 or 51%

Isn't that what I just did

Bit confused as to what you mean by our position is 51%?

My entire point was that if you're scoring 1 goal or less two thirds of the time then you're going to find it hard to consistently win games, especially when you concede in two thirds of games.