Opposition fans back from the game

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by WestYorksRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 10:30

We're already reaching the point where predictions of falling away are inaccurate simply because of points on the board.

If we go at 1.4 points per game for the remainder of the season, solid mid table form, we'd end on 75 points, which is typically a play-off spot. So we'd need lower table form to miss out, and we're clearly better than that.

The longer this start goes on, the more important it becomes. And I'm expected a minimum of 6 points from our next 3, if not 9.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by leon » 28 Oct 2020 10:34

Hendo
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Or Psucas to miss a few sitters?


Doing brilliantly but clearly some are suffering negativity withdrawal symptoms.

Swift's return will present our in form strikers with even more chances to convert and Puscas is pretty good at scoring goals when given the chances. Meite too misses sitters but scores great goals at other times.


Mine, and probably Leon's, comment was certainly tongue in cheek :)

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Snowball » 28 Oct 2020 10:38

WestYorksRoyal We're already reaching the point where predictions of falling away are inaccurate simply because of points on the board.

If we go at 1.4 points per game for the remainder of the season, solid mid table form, we'd end on 75 points, which is typically a play-off spot. So we'd need lower table form to miss out, and we're clearly better than that.

The longer this start goes on, the more important it becomes. And I'm expected a minimum of 6 points from our next 3, if not 9

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Preston ought to be tough.

They've won their last three away, drew the one before that
undefeated away. 3 goals against, 8 goals for. Serious challenge!

Won 2-4 at Brentford

They are top of the table for Away Games. Above RDG on goals scored

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by CountryRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 10:40

Going back to Blackburn - did anyone see their really racist post in the match thread about us?

One user posted a porn pic of a white girl with like 5 black dicks on her face with the caption “now I know how she feels” or something similar.

Was deleted shortly after.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Hound » 28 Oct 2020 10:43

CountryRoyal Going back to Blackburn - did anyone see their really racist post in the match thread about us?

One user posted a porn pic of a white girl with like 5 black dicks on her face with the caption “now I know how she feels” or something similar.

Was deleted shortly after.


no sadly not surprised though


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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Old Man Andrews » 28 Oct 2020 10:45

CountryRoyal Going back to Blackburn - did anyone see their really racist post in the match thread about us?

One user posted a porn pic of a white girl with like 5 black dicks on her face with the caption “now I know how she feels” or something similar.

Was deleted shortly after.

Didn't happen though did it? Maybe that image is in your immagination and suits your way of thinking.......

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by windermereROYAL » 28 Oct 2020 10:46

We did have 8 black players in our starting line up, that must be some kind of record.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Old Man Andrews » 28 Oct 2020 10:47

windermereROYAL We did have 8 black players in our starting line up, that must be some kind of record.

Why is it relevant to anything? If you're counting the amount of black players we have and it is something that concerns you I would suggest you have an issue with it.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by CountryRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 10:48

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CountryRoyal Going back to Blackburn - did anyone see their really racist post in the match thread about us?

One user posted a porn pic of a white girl with like 5 black dicks on her face with the caption “now I know how she feels” or something similar.

Was deleted shortly after.

Didn't happen though did it? Maybe that image is in your immagination and suits your way of thinking.......


You really are tedious. Think it’s bye bye for you now.


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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by windermereROYAL » 28 Oct 2020 10:48

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windermereROYAL We did have 8 black players in our starting line up, that must be some kind of record.

Why is it relevant to anything? If you're counting the amount of black players we have and it is something that concerns you I would suggest you have an issue with it.


Not at all.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by windermereROYAL » 28 Oct 2020 10:50

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WestYorksRoyal We're already reaching the point where predictions of falling away are inaccurate simply because of points on the board.

If we go at 1.4 points per game for the remainder of the season, solid mid table form, we'd end on 75 points, which is typically a play-off spot. So we'd need lower table form to miss out, and we're clearly better than that.

The longer this start goes on, the more important it becomes. And I'm expected a minimum of 6 points from our next 3, if not 9

.


Preston ought to be tough.

They've won their last three away, drew the one before that
undefeated away. 3 goals against, 8 goals for. Serious challenge!

Won 2-4 at Brentford

They are top of the table for Away Games. Above RDG on goals scored


We`ve scored 8 and conceded 3 too.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by tidus_mi2 » 28 Oct 2020 10:53

Speaking of xG, as I said, I like it but look at the xG table and it's all over the place, I think with xG you can only gauge whether a team creates/concedes high quality chances, which are both low for us but we have a quality keeper to save those high quality chances and clinical finishers to put away our chances.

here is the table:


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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by WoodleyRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 10:56

and what happened before xg became a thing? did teams not go up? i don't even know how it works, as i've never looked into it. But surely you win games on a football pitch and not an excel spreadsheet :?:


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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Chameleon » 28 Oct 2020 11:02

xG can be good, but needs context. For example if a team often goes behind in a game they will take more shots than the average team trying to equal, and if a team sits back a lot after going ahead they won't take many shots, which will result in a lower xG (e.g. Us).

It also more takes into account location than quality of opportunities, iirc Meite's first goal had an xG of ~0.30 despite it being an open goal.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Old Man Andrews » 28 Oct 2020 11:03

Those who invest time and effort into xG are likely virgins. It is a proven fact.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by TiagoIlori » 28 Oct 2020 11:03

Normally in the long run xG reflects well how the team is doing, with some notable exceptions. Think everyone knows we need to be better going forward and I’m scared to see what happens when teams play for a single point. Having said all this, we have time to improve and I’m sure Paunovic is looking at ways how to as we speak.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by WoodleyRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 11:04

Old Man Andrews Those who invest time and effort into xG are likely virgins. It is a proven fact.

actual lol, and fully agreed

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by SpaghettiHoop » 28 Oct 2020 11:09

tidus_mi2 Speaking of xG, as I said, I like it but look at the xG table and it's all over the place, I think with xG you can only gauge whether a team creates/concedes high quality chances, which are both low for us but we have a quality keeper to save those high quality chances and clinical finishers to put away our chances.

here is the table:


I think the table shows that the expected goals concept is useless and there is no correlation between expected and actual goals.

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by Snowball » 28 Oct 2020 11:10

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WestYorksRoyal We're already reaching the point where predictions of falling away are inaccurate simply because of points on the board.

If we go at 1.4 points per game for the remainder of the season, solid mid table form, we'd end on 75 points, which is typically a play-off spot. So we'd need lower table form to miss out, and we're clearly better than that.

The longer this start goes on, the more important it becomes. And I'm expected a minimum of 6 points from our next 3, if not 9

.


Preston ought to be tough.

They've won their last three away, drew the one before that
undefeated away. 3 goals against, 8 goals for. Serious challenge!

Won 2-4 at Brentford

They are top of the table for Away Games. Above RDG on goals scored


We`ve scored 8 and conceded 3 too.



OK IDENTICAL

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Re: Opposition fans back from the game

by WoodleyRoyal » 28 Oct 2020 11:11

so humour me here, are 'expected goals' supposed to predict the amounts of goals you are going to score before the game has even kicked off?

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