CONFIMRED - Jaap Stam

[TBM]

Brian did have managerial experience.

Albeit at conference level (were Woking conference at the time? CBA to check) but point still stands.

Slough Town

In that case Stam has experience too, managing the Ajax B team

Does he actually manage or is he just a coach?

Assistant Manager - but as said, clutching at straws if you class McD managing Slough as experience

[Hoop Blah]

It's the fcuking Daily Mail. They probably read about the odds dropping on Twitter and printed the story to try and be the first paper to 'have' it.

You seriously are deluded if you think they have an inside scoop and don't print unfounded bollocks for the sake of it.

For football they're one of the more reliable papers!

They were also the paper to break the news of the Zingarivich deal when it was still supposed to be under wraps so they presumably have some decent source around these parts.

[Maneki Neko]

It was reported (maybe falsely) that Stam was out due to not having any budget to spend. Him coming in might mean there is some money to spend...wishful thinking?
Hopefully some players that have caught Jaap's eye...

Hes been told he can keep all money from outgoing players for rebuilding

Sauce?

Same one that confirmed hes coming.

[Denver Royal]

If it is Stam, the more I think about it the more optimistic I am. Assistant coach at Ajax, 70 caps for Netherlands, and was also a scout for Man Yoo (in South America). Hoping his connections/network would lead to a player or three for us. Stam may or may not pan out here, but I'm ok with the thinking/strategy.

[From Despair To Where?]

So take your pick from this lot, then. http://www.flashscore.ae/team/jong-ajax/GncWwxTm/

Sam Hendriks and Ashraf Al Mahdioui, please, for starters.

Leroy Owusu, if only because I've convinced myself he doesn't really exist and has been created on the internet by some Ex Reading forward random name generator.

[Sutekh]

As long as he is willing to listen and learn from those around him and doesn't come in with a "billy big b****x knows best" attitude he could do reasonably well.

I think that the assistant manager appointment could well be the making or breaking of his time here. Any ideas on that front anyone?

[genome]

I'll take him and Lloyd Lita, Brynjar Kitson and Kevin Obinna Chukwunyelu.

[wingnut]

Brian did have managerial experience.

Albeit at conference level (were Woking conference at the time? CBA to check) but point still stands.

Slough Town

In that case Stam has experience too, managing the Ajax B team

And Woking - and just checked, they were in the conference at the time.

[TBM]

Brian did have managerial experience.

Albeit at conference level (were Woking conference at the time? CBA to check) but point still stands.

Slough Town

In that case Stam has experience too, managing the Ajax B team

And Woking - and just checked, they were in the conference at the time.

I get what you're saying but being manager of a semi professional team 12 years prior to taking the Reading job doesn't mean he had experience....

When people (on here) say they want a manager with experience, they mean with experience in this division, similar or higher.

[wingnut]

Fair enough. Although (IMO) being manager of a British semi-pro team is *slightly* different to being coach of a club's B team. In the latter case, there would be very little genuine man-management required; it would purely be picking a side for the next game. How relevant either would be to managing a side in the second tier is, as you say, moot.

[SCIAG]

Ajax II play in the Dutch second division. They're very different to our U21s, they have a formally registered squad. It's not just picking the players who aren't in the first team this week.

[Eaststandman]

If its to be Jaap Staam, then so be it and I wish him all the luck in the world, (like he would care) but I'm disturbed to think that in spite of all his pedigree in football our mysterious Thai owners concluded that he is the best choice for managing a chumpionship side and is it not ironic that he sort of comes from the 'never-never-lands' where fairy tales do come true for the little boys who never grow up and remain the lost boys forever?

[royalp-we]

Speaking to Dutch website http://www.ajaxshowtime.com today, Tevreden said: "I know nothing.

"I do my job thoroughly and so take the time to appoint a new coach."

GetReading have picked the above article up and have headlined it as "Brian Tevreden denies Jaap Stam appointment". He's apparently 'quashed the speculation'

I imagine the club and Stam are negotiating and Brian T isn't allowed to say too much yet, I guess we just need to be patient on this. It does piss me off how many fans trusts the views GetReading spray out as if they are clubs. Twitter meltdown to ensue following headlines like that lol.

[Nameless]

The Avram Grant connection must have legs.
Grant as Dof F and Dutch Brian as assistant perhaps ?

[Ian Royal]

Pros
We've got a manager
He has experience playing at the highest level
He has experience playing in England
He comes from a good coaching environment
He's a name
He has plenty of time to prepare for the season

Cons
He's got no management experience
He's got no coaching experience in England
He's got no experience of the Championship
The search for a replacement obviously wasn't too exhaustive seeing as he was appointed inside 7 working days of the vacancy appearing and was rumoured to have had the job for almost a week before that
He's had no time to see the players in an actual match environment
We're still light on coaching and behind the scenes staff

I wish him all the best and hope he does well. He just has to be given a chance and time almost no matter how badly he does given how much upheaval we've had in the last four years. Short of being in the relegation zone all season he pretty much has to still be here in October 2017.

I don't think this in any way lessons the poor nature of the decision to get rid of McDermott and I see very little on paper to suggest Stam is in any way better. That doesn't mean he won't do well. But he's here. It's still the owners I'm pissed off at, not him. He now gets rated on how he does.

[Ian Royal]

It's the fcuking Daily Mail. They probably read about the odds dropping on Twitter and printed the story to try and be the first paper to 'have' it.

You seriously are deluded if you think they have an inside scoop and don't print unfounded bollocks for the sake of it.

I think the Daily Malice have slightly different (higher) standards when it comes to reporting on sport.

[Ian Royal]

Slough Town

In that case Stam has experience too, managing the Ajax B team

And Woking - and just checked, they were in the conference at the time.

I get what you're saying but being manager of a semi professional team 12 years prior to taking the Reading job doesn't mean he had experience....

When people (on here) say they want a manager with experience, they mean with experience in this division, similar or higher.

Name an inexperienced manager to do well here, who hadn't been coaching / playing here for at least the preceding year first.

Experience is no guarantee of success, but it does provide a pretty good indication of ability if there's a a couple of years and/or clubs for it.

I have no problem with Stam being appointed. Good luck to him. I just don't see why on earth anyone with a brain would want him over the previous incumbent - McDermott.

[Ian Royal]

Terrific, never played in the Chump, no idea about the players or teams in this league, absolutely no experience of managing a football club at any level, but the owners have heard of him because he played for Man U who sell a lot of shirts in Thailand so he must be good.

Skybet have us 7/1 for promotion, they really need to go and have a lie down.

Terrific - absolutely - great news.

Adkins, Clarke - they knew the league - done them the world of good at Reading.

Someone has got to start somewhere - thought that was the Reading way you lot wanted!!

There are some negatives - there are a whole load of positives too and I for one am delighted with this news...

How did Clarke know the Championship exactly? Other than having heard of it.

[Maneki Neko]

Terrific, never played in the Chump, no idea about the players or teams in this league, absolutely no experience of managing a football club at any level, but the owners have heard of him because he played for Man U who sell a lot of shirts in Thailand so he must be good.

Skybet have us 7/1 for promotion, they really need to go and have a lie down.

Terrific - absolutely - great news.

Adkins, Clarke - they knew the league - done them the world of good at Reading.
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Think u may be oversimplifying the factors involved in success/failure here.

Agreed though, welcome to jaap. Hope he gets some backing and does well

[royalp-we]

The Avram Grant connection must have legs.
Grant as Dof F and Dutch Brian as assistant perhaps ?

Why must it? Maybe he is happy coaching Ghana? I imagine there's a nicer work/life balance being an international manager anyway

Although, tis an appointment i'd welcome.