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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 15 Nov 2019 10:03

Old Man Andrews I seem to remember there was a period of time where Westwood couldn't play because it would have meant them paying out a huge amount of money to his former club and it would trigger a new deal for the player too. Since the old manager left he has started playing again so I can only assume he has taken them over what is acceptable in terms of FFP.


Without the sale of the ground they would have missed FFP by about 18m. In 17/18 they were in to lost 37m alone but the sale for the ground to the owner at a cost of 60m, saw a book profit of 38m. This meant they made a profit.

Without this sale they were screwed.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 15 Nov 2019 10:33

Monk doesn’t seem to get very lucky at his jobs, being at Leeds, the nine point deduction at Birmingham last year and now this

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Re: Rival Watch

by John Smith » 15 Nov 2019 10:37

URZZZZ Monk doesn’t seem to get very lucky at his jobs, being at Leeds, the nine point deduction at Birmingham last year and now this

Perhaps he's the common denominator?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 15 Nov 2019 10:50

John Smith
URZZZZ Monk doesn’t seem to get very lucky at his jobs, being at Leeds, the nine point deduction at Birmingham last year and now this

Perhaps he's the common denominator?


Nah, all 3 clubs have/had batshit crazy owners.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Franchise FC » 15 Nov 2019 11:11

John Smith
URZZZZ Monk doesn’t seem to get very lucky at his jobs, being at Leeds, the nine point deduction at Birmingham last year and now this

Perhaps he's the common denominator?

To be fair, he’s no Saggy ‘Arry


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Re: Rival Watch

by genome » 16 Nov 2019 14:21

Cardiff appoint Neil Harris :lol:

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Re: Rival Watch

by royalp-we » 16 Nov 2019 14:45

Cardiff fans are reacting like right bellends.

Almost identical to our fans after Bowen was announced.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Sutekh » 16 Nov 2019 18:20

genome Cardiff appoint Neil Harris :lol:


Seriously? Very strange decision. Still, as with all appointments, give the guy a chance.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Old Man Andrews » 16 Nov 2019 18:23

Says a lot about where Cardiff think they are. Seemingly no money and a huge rebuild. Harris has experience working on a tight budget and built a few competitive Millwall sides in his time there. Might be a sensible appointment.


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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2019 19:50

The point is Cardiff's style of play under Warnock was coming under scrutiny and they've just replaced him with someone who equally plays a horrible style. May as well have kept Warnock

It's a cheap, horrendous appointment IMO

But I have judged other appointments wrong, Potter at Brighton, Cooper at Swansea, Lampard at Chelsea etc so he may well prove the majority wrong

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Re: Rival Watch

by OldBiscuit » 16 Nov 2019 20:35

URZZZZ The point is Cardiff's style of play under Warnock was coming under scrutiny and they've just replaced him with someone who equally plays a horrible style. May as well have kept Warnock

It's a cheap, horrendous appointment IMO

But I have judged other appointments wrong, Potter at Brighton, Cooper at Swansea, Lampard at Chelsea etc so he may well prove the majority wrong



Steady on now! You’re getting a bit carried away here. Cardiff make an appointment and you throw a wobbly.
I don’t really think that it has anything to do with us, and really shouldn’t affect us........or are you a secret Cardiff fan?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 16 Nov 2019 20:43

Seems a pretty uninteresting but fairly solid appointment to me. He did well for Millwall overall

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 16 Nov 2019 20:47

But Warnock was giving them solidity without really doing much this season. Harris is a sideways step IMO and just screams cheap to me. Don’t think he’s a man to take them forward from where they are now


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Re: Rival Watch

by CountryRoyal » 16 Nov 2019 22:03

URZZZZ The point is Cardiff's style of play under Warnock was coming under scrutiny and they've just replaced him with someone who equally plays a horrible style. May as well have kept Warnock

It's a cheap, horrendous appointment IMO

But I have judged other appointments wrong, Potter at Brighton, Cooper at Swansea, Lampard at Chelsea etc so he may well prove the majority wrong


The problem wasn’t with the style per se but the situation with Warnock. He was leaving at the end and everyone kind of gave up, they needed a new man to come in and freshen things up without changing too much on a footballing level.

Seems like a sensible decision.

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Re: Rival Watch

by genome » 16 Nov 2019 23:23

Old Man Andrews Says a lot about where Cardiff think they are. Seemingly no money and a huge rebuild. Harris has experience working on a tight budget and built a few competitive Millwall sides in his time there. Might be a sensible appointment.


They should've gone for Gareth Ainsworth, in my opinion.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Old Man Andrews » 17 Nov 2019 00:04

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Old Man Andrews Says a lot about where Cardiff think they are. Seemingly no money and a huge rebuild. Harris has experience working on a tight budget and built a few competitive Millwall sides in his time there. Might be a sensible appointment.


They should've gone for Gareth Ainsworth, in my opinion.

Would have been a fantastic option.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 17 Nov 2019 01:06

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URZZZZ The point is Cardiff's style of play under Warnock was coming under scrutiny and they've just replaced him with someone who equally plays a horrible style. May as well have kept Warnock

It's a cheap, horrendous appointment IMO

But I have judged other appointments wrong, Potter at Brighton, Cooper at Swansea, Lampard at Chelsea etc so he may well prove the majority wrong


The problem wasn’t with the style per se but the situation with Warnock. He was leaving at the end and everyone kind of gave up, they needed a new man to come in and freshen things up without changing too much on a footballing level.

Seems like a sensible decision.


Could be wrong but I thought the general consensus was the fans were getting bored of Warnock’s hit and chase tactics. When I saw them against Swansea a few weeks ago, they were really poor and the players didn’t even look interested

I just thought they’d try and take things to a different approach. Harris is too similar to Warnock I think. That’s why I think it’s a really poor appointment. Even with promotion history, I don’t think he will take them up or progress them in any way

Which, I guess, is why Cardiff fans aren’t particularly happy. Not necessarily because he’s a bad manager but because they wanted a fresh approach to a style that had become rather stale

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Re: Rival Watch

by CountryRoyal » 17 Nov 2019 01:07

They weren’t bothered about the style when they went up and they won’t be if they start winning games again.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 17 Nov 2019 01:13

CountryRoyal They weren’t bothered about the style when they went up and they won’t be if they start winning games again.


I’m pretty sure our fans were quite bothered about the style when we came two kicks away from the Premier League and were winning frequently. IIRC we had some real low attendances that season

Some fans prefer do style over substance

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Re: Rival Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 17 Nov 2019 12:17

CountryRoyal
URZZZZ The point is Cardiff's style of play under Warnock was coming under scrutiny and they've just replaced him with someone who equally plays a horrible style. May as well have kept Warnock

It's a cheap, horrendous appointment IMO

But I have judged other appointments wrong, Potter at Brighton, Cooper at Swansea, Lampard at Chelsea etc so he may well prove the majority wrong


The problem wasn’t with the style per se but the situation with Warnock. He was leaving at the end and everyone kind of gave up, they needed a new man to come in and freshen things up without changing too much on a footballing level.

Seems like a sensible decision.

Yeah, no complete overhaul needed as a similar approach and he turned a poor Millwall side into one pushing up the top half for a while. With Cardiff's resources obviously the hope is for better.

Seems fine to me.

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