Rival Watch

[Old Man Andrews]

Yes, wasn’t unhappy to see Grabban score there

Nice goal as well

Very good goal. Was very happy it stood as well as it would have been so easy to give a cheap foul just for there being pressure on the goalkeeper. Charlton v Boro on Saturday is now box office stuff.

If Boro lose does Woodgate go?

[John Smith]

If Boro lose does Woodgate go?

I don't think it's quite that stage yet, but that being said, that squad should be nowhere near where they are and with 10 games to go I'm sure someone else could save them. I think he probably should have gone a while back but they may as well stick with him now as they didn't look terrible last night.

I would love it, love it if Boro and Stoke did go though.

[WestYorksRoyal]

If Boro lose does Woodgate go?

I don't think it's quite that stage yet, but that being said, that squad should be nowhere near where they are and with 10 games to go I'm sure someone else could save them. I think he probably should have gone a while back but they may as well stick with him now as they didn't look terrible last night.

I would love it, love it if Boro and Stoke did go though.

Gibson is known as a patient owner and has publicly said this season is not Woodgate's fault. Like us and Stoke, there have been issues that go way beyond the manager to the extent that simply changing manager again and again is not a sustainable solution. I expect Woodgate to stay.

[URZZZZ]

In relegation zone with 38 points from 36....thank God there have been so many poor teams in the last 2 seasons. It was 16/17 that Blackburn went down with 52 points. Wouldn't be surprised if it's around that mark this season.

You may be right - there are currently still 20 games to be played against each other for the sides placed 16th and below. So there will be lots of sides taking points of each other.

Wigan feature in 7 of those games, so on there current form you can see them pushing up to mid-table comfort.

Stoke's next 5 games see them play no-one higher in the league that us - whilst their final 5 feature 4 sides going for either automatic promotion or the play-offs - so if they don't pick up 9 or 10 points in that run, they may well be in trouble.

Boro's run-in looks very mid-table but they really need to find a win from somewhere to arrest their slide - lose at Charlton this weekend and I think that may be them gone as confidence will be shot.

I think the loser of Boro Charlton will go, so a draw is most likely inevitable

From what I saw yesterday, Boro looked quite good though and better than their position suggests. I think it helped having Gestede up there though who I always thought was a half decent striker deserving of more game time

[Hound]

In relegation zone with 38 points from 36....thank God there have been so many poor teams in the last 2 seasons. It was 16/17 that Blackburn went down with 52 points. Wouldn't be surprised if it's around that mark this season.

You may be right - there are currently still 20 games to be played against each other for the sides placed 16th and below. So there will be lots of sides taking points of each other.

Wigan feature in 7 of those games, so on there current form you can see them pushing up to mid-table comfort.

Stoke's next 5 games see them play no-one higher in the league that us - whilst their final 5 feature 4 sides going for either automatic promotion or the play-offs - so if they don't pick up 9 or 10 points in that run, they may well be in trouble.

Boro's run-in looks very mid-table but they really need to find a win from somewhere to arrest their slide - lose at Charlton this weekend and I think that may be them gone as confidence will be shot.

I think the loser of Boro Charlton will go, so a draw is most likely inevitable

From what I saw yesterday, Boro looked quite good though and better than their position suggests. I think it helped having Gestede up there though who I always thought was a half decent striker deserving of more game time

Depends whether Boro can stop the rot. had they won yesterday I'd be pretty sure they'd stay up - however conceding a goal like that and failing to win again will be very painful for them.

Also depends largely on whether Barnsley's poor effort against us was the norm or a blip on an otherwise good run. Its very interesting this year - there are no downright poor teams imo like there has been recently (ie Ipswich, Bolton, Burton and even us for a couple of years), they are all relatively capable

[Sutekh]

You may be right - there are currently still 20 games to be played against each other for the sides placed 16th and below. So there will be lots of sides taking points of each other.

Wigan feature in 7 of those games, so on there current form you can see them pushing up to mid-table comfort.

Stoke's next 5 games see them play no-one higher in the league that us - whilst their final 5 feature 4 sides going for either automatic promotion or the play-offs - so if they don't pick up 9 or 10 points in that run, they may well be in trouble.

Boro's run-in looks very mid-table but they really need to find a win from somewhere to arrest their slide - lose at Charlton this weekend and I think that may be them gone as confidence will be shot.

I think the loser of Boro Charlton will go, so a draw is most likely inevitable

From what I saw yesterday, Boro looked quite good though and better than their position suggests. I think it helped having Gestede up there though who I always thought was a half decent striker deserving of more game time

Depends whether Boro can stop the rot. had they won yesterday I'd be pretty sure they'd stay up - however conceding a goal like that and failing to win again will be very painful for them.

Also depends largely on whether Barnsley's poor effort against us was the norm or a blip on an otherwise good run. Its very interesting this year - there are no downright poor teams imo like there has been recently (ie Ipswich, Bolton, Burton and even us for a couple of years), they are all relatively capable

Agreed. Luton look useful at home and then there’s certain clubs fearing point deductions which, if there are any, will presumably be revealed by the end of this month

[Brum Royal]

Is Robbie Keane the assistant manager/coach at Boro? Thought I saw him on the bench last night

[Old Man Andrews]

Is Robbie Keane the assistant manager/coach at Boro? Thought I saw him on the bench last night

Yep he's one of the assistants I believe.

[Stranded]

I think the loser of Boro Charlton will go, so a draw is most likely inevitable

From what I saw yesterday, Boro looked quite good though and better than their position suggests. I think it helped having Gestede up there though who I always thought was a half decent striker deserving of more game time

Depends whether Boro can stop the rot. had they won yesterday I'd be pretty sure they'd stay up - however conceding a goal like that and failing to win again will be very painful for them.

Also depends largely on whether Barnsley's poor effort against us was the norm or a blip on an otherwise good run. Its very interesting this year - there are no downright poor teams imo like there has been recently (ie Ipswich, Bolton, Burton and even us for a couple of years), they are all relatively capable

Agreed. Luton look useful at home and then there’s certain clubs fearing point deductions which, if there are any, will presumably be revealed by the end of this month

Luton are Ok at home but only taken 2 more points from the same number of home games as us - picked the same number of points as us over the past 8 home games to - though taken 7pts from the last 3 games.

Where Luton really need to improve if they have any chance is away. Just 9 points from 18 away games - 3 wins and 15 defeats - they have Wigan, Swansea, Leeds, Huddersfield and Hull away. They will drop some points at home so will need to find more than the 1 away win their season's form suggests they are likely to get.

With regards to the point deductions - Brum were hit with theirs on the 22nd March last year, so you would expect that Derby, Wednesday and Brum again can expect to hear around the same time else it may carry over to the next year - which if so, imagine the Boro chairman will sue anyone who moves if Boro drop.

[WestYorksRoyal]

We're completely safe from points deduction, right?

[Hendo]

We're completely safe from points deduction, right?

I think its getting to a point where it would be too late for it to apply this season. Guess it could apply at the start of next season if one was coming, which I don't think it is, ftr.

[Nameless]

We're completely safe from points deduction, right?

Probably impossible to say for sure but there's been no real suggestion we're at risk and it would have taken a cockup of monumental proportions by Nigel Howe for us to miss the FFP targets. Other clubs seem to have quite different issues

[Stranded]

We're completely safe from points deduction, right?

As we haven't been charged with anything then yes we are.

If we are charged, then no we're not but the likelihood at the moment seems small and as mentioned if we were, we would likely be looking at the deduction being applied next year given Weds were charged in November, Derby and Brum in January and they are still waiting to hear if they are to be punished.

[NewCorkSeth]

Leeds fans are so tribal they are celebrating the fact Blackburn are charging them 40 quid for away tickets.

[Snowflake Royal]

Leeds fans are so thick they are celebrating the fact Blackburn are ripping them off for 40 quid for away tickets.

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[Old Man Andrews]

Leeds fans are so tribal they are celebrating the fact Blackburn are charging them 40 quid for away tickets.

That's the issue with going down to their level. If you start playing them at their own game their thick supporters will wear it as a badge of honour. Clubs like us should continue with our sensible pricing and be the example for others imo.

[tidus_mi2]

Jesus, Millwall are slaughtering Forest right now.

[NewCorkSeth]

Leeds fans are so tribal they are celebrating the fact Blackburn are charging them 40 quid for away tickets.

That's the issue with going down to their level. If you start playing them at their own game their thick supporters will wear it as a badge of honour. Clubs like us should continue with our sensible pricing and be the example for others imo.

I think you're right. As nice as it would be to see all clubs charge Leeds for being pricks about their pricing I think it is better to stick to our very fair pricing structure.

It just amazes me that so many Leeds fans are so brainwashed by their club that they genuinely think that them selling out a 7k allocation at 40 quid a ticket is something other clubs should want to aspire too.

[NewCorkSeth]

Leeds fans are so thick they are celebrating the fact Blackburn are ripping them off for 40 quid for away tickets.

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Lol.

[NewCorkSeth]

Jesus, Millwall are slaughtering Forest right now.

Gaz is doing a superb job at Millwall.