Rival Watch

[royalp-we]

No one's really failed to understand your point. I disagree with it. Even if you're right, the player given as the sort we should look to sign is bloody awful and would be in line with everything wrong at the club over the last 5 years or so.

What we need are reliable players, who will play at tempo regularly and don't cost a lot.

And we don't have a front line of young players. The majority of them have plenty of experience. It's just Olise who is young and inexperienced.

Our one signing so far is 25.

I agree the policy has been wrong. The players signed beggar belief for the wages and contracts handed out. But comparing Meyler and Edwards with Forestieri and Knockaert like some have is bonkers

You’ve hit the nail on the head in that we need reliable players. Our current crop have shown that they aren’t - and they need a bit of experience round them to push them on. I’m just saying one or two to complement them, not an overhaul of the current policy.

Let’s break it down like you have:

Joao - 26 [Looked good, Not achieved anything, yet]
Meite - 24 [Looks raw at times and frustrating, gets the simple things wrong]
Puscas - 24 [Abundance of promise, Not achieved anything, yet]
Baldock - 31 [Most experienced and at 31, won playoffs in 2008, Doesn’t suit the system, barely played over past few years]
Swift - 25 [Star player, Most consistent midfielder]
Rinomhota - 23 [Hot and Cold, goes missing, promising if deployed right]
Laurent - 25 [Unproven, have my reservations on his presence round the team]
Holsgrove - 20 [Unproven]
Olise - 18 [Abundance of promise, yet to show it]

There’s 1 winners medal amongst them. Now if you compare this lot to most championship teams, the majority of them lack credible championship experience.

If you disagree we could do with a couple of additional players then fairplay, ready yourself for a slog Ian. There’s already young and hungry players in the squad, we haven’t even mentioned East, Nevers etc. Only signing young players will be sleepwalking to disaster once more.

[Snowflake Royal]

No one's really failed to understand your point. I disagree with it. Even if you're right, the player given as the sort we should look to sign is bloody awful and would be in line with everything wrong at the club over the last 5 years or so.

What we need are reliable players, who will play at tempo regularly and don't cost a lot.

And we don't have a front line of young players. The majority of them have plenty of experience. It's just Olise who is young and inexperienced.

Our one signing so far is 25.

I agree the policy has been wrong. The players signed beggar belief for the wages and contracts handed out. But comparing Meyler and Edwards with Forestieri and Knockaert like some have is bonkers

You’ve hit the nail on the head in that we need reliable players. Our current crop have shown that they aren’t - and they need a bit of experience round them to push them on. I’m just saying one or two to complement them, not an overhaul of the current policy.

Let’s break it down like you have:

Joao - 26 [Looked good, Not achieved anything, yet]
Meite - 24 [Looks raw at times and frustrating, gets the simple things wrong]
Puscas - 24 [Abundance of promise, Not achieved anything, yet]
Baldock - 31 [Most experienced and at 31, won playoffs in 2008, Doesn’t suit the system, barely played over past few years]
Swift - 25 [Star player, Most consistent midfielder]
Rinomhota - 23 [Hot and Cold, goes missing, promising if deployed right]
Laurent - 25 [Unproven, have my reservations on his presence round the team]
Holsgrove - 20 [Unproven]
Olise - 18 [Abundance of promise, yet to show it]

There’s 1 winners medal amongst them. Now if you compare this lot to most championship teams, the majority of them lack credible championship experience.

If you disagree we could do with a couple of additional players then fairplay, ready yourself for a slog Ian. There’s already young and hungry players in the squad, we haven’t even mentioned East, Nevers etc. Only signing young players will be sleepwalking to disaster once more.

oxf*rd me, that assessment is a screaming load of crap.

[Old Man Andrews]

It's like watching 2 mentally handicapped people fighting over the last seat on the special bus.

[karbota]

It's like watching 2 mentally handicapped people fighting over the last seat on the special bus.

You and ?.

[SCIAG]

It's like watching 2 mentally handicapped people fighting over the last seat on the special bus.

You and ?.

Amazing, you both walked into that.

[Notts Royal]

No one's really failed to understand your point. I disagree with it. Even if you're right, the player given as the sort we should look to sign is bloody awful and would be in line with everything wrong at the club over the last 5 years or so.

What we need are reliable players, who will play at tempo regularly and don't cost a lot.

And we don't have a front line of young players. The majority of them have plenty of experience. It's just Olise who is young and inexperienced.

Our one signing so far is 25.

I agree the policy has been wrong. The players signed beggar belief for the wages and contracts handed out. But comparing Meyler and Edwards with Forestieri and Knockaert like some have is bonkers

You’ve hit the nail on the head in that we need reliable players. Our current crop have shown that they aren’t - and they need a bit of experience round them to push them on. I’m just saying one or two to complement them, not an overhaul of the current policy.

Let’s break it down like you have:

Joao - 26 [Looked good, Not achieved anything, yet]
Meite - 24 [Looks raw at times and frustrating, gets the simple things wrong]
Puscas - 24 [Abundance of promise, Not achieved anything, yet]
Baldock - 31 [Most experienced and at 31, won playoffs in 2008, Doesn’t suit the system, barely played over past few years]
Swift - 25 [Star player, Most consistent midfielder]
Rinomhota - 23 [Hot and Cold, goes missing, promising if deployed right]
Laurent - 25 [Unproven, have my reservations on his presence round the team]
Holsgrove - 20 [Unproven]
Olise - 18 [Abundance of promise, yet to show it]

There’s 1 winners medal amongst them. Now if you compare this lot to most championship teams, the majority of them lack credible championship experience.

If you disagree we could do with a couple of additional players then fairplay, ready yourself for a slog Ian. There’s already young and hungry players in the squad, we haven’t even mentioned East, Nevers etc. Only signing young players will be sleepwalking to disaster once more.

Well 2 things from glancing at this post:

1) Rino - Hot & Cold
He’s the definition of a consistent 7/10 player. Rarely has a shocker, but never does anything that fancy. We need more of those types I’d say
2) How many winners medals did the 106 team have?

I agree most of our squad is inconsistent, but there is quality there. And I also agree we don’t need a whole overhaul...we’ve had too many signings every summer for the last 7 years. 3-4 is what we need, but experience is important

[NewCorkSeth]

It's like watching 2 mentally handicapped people fighting over the last seat on the special bus.

You and ?.

Amazing, you both walked into that.

[Sutekh]

No one's really failed to understand your point. I disagree with it. Even if you're right, the player given as the sort we should look to sign is bloody awful and would be in line with everything wrong at the club over the last 5 years or so.

What we need are reliable players, who will play at tempo regularly and don't cost a lot.

And we don't have a front line of young players. The majority of them have plenty of experience. It's just Olise who is young and inexperienced.

Our one signing so far is 25.

I agree the policy has been wrong. The players signed beggar belief for the wages and contracts handed out. But comparing Meyler and Edwards with Forestieri and Knockaert like some have is bonkers

You’ve hit the nail on the head in that we need reliable players. Our current crop have shown that they aren’t - and they need a bit of experience round them to push them on. I’m just saying one or two to complement them, not an overhaul of the current policy.

Let’s break it down like you have:

Joao - 26 [Looked good, Not achieved anything, yet]
Meite - 24 [Looks raw at times and frustrating, gets the simple things wrong]
Puscas - 24 [Abundance of promise, Not achieved anything, yet]
Baldock - 31 [Most experienced and at 31, won playoffs in 2008, Doesn’t suit the system, barely played over past few years]
Swift - 25 [Star player, Most consistent midfielder]
Rinomhota - 23 [Hot and Cold, goes missing, promising if deployed right]
Laurent - 25 [Unproven, have my reservations on his presence round the team]
Holsgrove - 20 [Unproven]
Olise - 18 [Abundance of promise, yet to show it]

There’s 1 winners medal amongst them. Now if you compare this lot to most championship teams, the majority of them lack credible championship experience.

If you disagree we could do with a couple of additional players then fairplay, ready yourself for a slog Ian. There’s already young and hungry players in the squad, we haven’t even mentioned East, Nevers etc. Only signing young players will be sleepwalking to disaster once more.

Well 2 things from glancing at this post:

1) Rino - Hot & Cold
He’s the definition of a consistent 7/10 player. Rarely has a shocker, but never does anything that fancy. We need more of those types I’d say
2) How many winners medals did the 106 team have?

I agree most of our squad is inconsistent, but there is quality there. And I also agree we don’t need a whole overhaul...we’ve had too many signings every summer for the last 7 years. 3-4 is what we need, but experience is important

1. Ivar won the Brentford player of the season in 2002
2. Chris Makin was in the Sunderland squad that won the first division in 1999
3. Steve Sidwell helped Arsenal win the FA Youth Cup in 2001
4. Brynjar won Stoke player of the season in 2001
5. Glen Little helped Glentoran to the Irish Cup in 1995
6. John Oster won Grimsby Town supporters young player of the season in 1997

You can also add to that the Reading Player of the Season awards won by Murty (twice), Harps and Kitson.

Presume that is more than the current squad

[Snowflake Royal]

That's a fairly desperate list.

[Simon's Church]

[Hendo]

I assume that is a slightly tongue-in-cheek list as:

Murty
Shorey
Harper
Sidwell

all won promotion with us from Div 2 as well.

[Pepe the Horseman]

[Snowflake Royal]

Yeah, didn't think it was serious.

[Millsy]

Well the way I see it, it's a case of six of one and a dozen of the other.

[Nameless]

I agree the policy has been wrong. The players signed beggar belief for the wages and contracts handed out. But comparing Meyler and Edwards with Forestieri and Knockaert like some have is bonkers

You’ve hit the nail on the head in that we need reliable players. Our current crop have shown that they aren’t - and they need a bit of experience round them to push them on. I’m just saying one or two to complement them, not an overhaul of the current policy.

Let’s break it down like you have:

Joao - 26 [Looked good, Not achieved anything, yet]
Meite - 24 [Looks raw at times and frustrating, gets the simple things wrong]
Puscas - 24 [Abundance of promise, Not achieved anything, yet]
Baldock - 31 [Most experienced and at 31, won playoffs in 2008, Doesn’t suit the system, barely played over past few years]
Swift - 25 [Star player, Most consistent midfielder]
Rinomhota - 23 [Hot and Cold, goes missing, promising if deployed right]
Laurent - 25 [Unproven, have my reservations on his presence round the team]
Holsgrove - 20 [Unproven]
Olise - 18 [Abundance of promise, yet to show it]

There’s 1 winners medal amongst them. Now if you compare this lot to most championship teams, the majority of them lack credible championship experience.

If you disagree we could do with a couple of additional players then fairplay, ready yourself for a slog Ian. There’s already young and hungry players in the squad, we haven’t even mentioned East, Nevers etc. Only signing young players will be sleepwalking to disaster once more.

Well 2 things from glancing at this post:

1) Rino - Hot & Cold
He’s the definition of a consistent 7/10 player. Rarely has a shocker, but never does anything that fancy. We need more of those types I’d say
2) How many winners medals did the 106 team have?

I agree most of our squad is inconsistent, but there is quality there. And I also agree we don’t need a whole overhaul...we’ve had too many signings every summer for the last 7 years. 3-4 is what we need, but experience is important

1. Ivar won the Brentford player of the season in 2002
2. Chris Makin was in the Sunderland squad that won the first division in 1999
3. Steve Sidwell helped Arsenal win the FA Youth Cup in 2001
4. Brynjar won Stoke player of the season in 2001
5. Glen Little helped Glentoran to the Irish Cup in 1995
6. John Oster won Grimsby Town supporters young player of the season in 1997

You can also add to that the Reading Player of the Season awards won by Murty (twice), Harps and Kitson.

Presume that is more than the current squad

JOhn O’Shea has worn more than both squads combined !

[Hendo]

Well 2 things from glancing at this post:

1) Rino - Hot & Cold
He’s the definition of a consistent 7/10 player. Rarely has a shocker, but never does anything that fancy. We need more of those types I’d say
2) How many winners medals did the 106 team have?

I agree most of our squad is inconsistent, but there is quality there. And I also agree we don’t need a whole overhaul...we’ve had too many signings every summer for the last 7 years. 3-4 is what we need, but experience is important

1. Ivar won the Brentford player of the season in 2002
2. Chris Makin was in the Sunderland squad that won the first division in 1999
3. Steve Sidwell helped Arsenal win the FA Youth Cup in 2001
4. Brynjar won Stoke player of the season in 2001
5. Glen Little helped Glentoran to the Irish Cup in 1995
6. John Oster won Grimsby Town supporters young player of the season in 1997

You can also add to that the Reading Player of the Season awards won by Murty (twice), Harps and Kitson.

Presume that is more than the current squad

JOhn O’Shea has worn more than both squads combined !

He has probably won more that most Championship squads put together, tbh.

[Snowflake Royal]

He could probably challenge on the most number of relegations too.

[Nameless]

He could probably challenge on the most number of relegations too.

Suspect lots of players have been relegated twice !
Andy Yiadom has for a start...

[Snowflake Royal]

He could probably challenge on the most number of relegations too.

Suspect lots of players have been relegated twice !
Andy Yiadom has for a start...

Knew he had at least 1.

Hmm, There's quite a few I'd hazard a guess at having zero. Interesting* question.

I'd guess Baldock is the only other in the current squad who might.

[Nameless]

He could probably challenge on the most number of relegations too.

Suspect lots of players have been relegated twice !
Andy Yiadom has for a start...

Knew he had at least 1.

Hmm, There's quite a few I'd hazard a guess at having zero. Interesting* question.

I'd guess Baldock is the only other in the current squad who might.

I thought Morrison might have had one but doesn’t appear so.

Sam Walker has one actual relegation but a string of narrow escapes at a number of clubs.