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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 10 Nov 2022 09:24

Hendo Nathan Jones could be heading to Saints.


Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.

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Re: Rival Watch

by URZZZZ » 10 Nov 2022 10:05

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Hendo Nathan Jones could be heading to Saints.


Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.


Presuming you mean Luton!

Richardson gone from Wigan too - seems harsh but they’re on a really poor run of form and will give a new manager an opportunity to work with the players during the break

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 Nov 2022 10:08

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Hendo Nathan Jones could be heading to Saints.


Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.


Presuming you mean Luton!

Richardson gone from Wigan too - seems harsh but they’re on a really poor run of form and will give a new manager an opportunity to work with the players during the break


Had he not just signed a new 2 year deal only a matter of 2 weeks ago?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 10 Nov 2022 10:16

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Hendo Nathan Jones could be heading to Saints.


Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.


Presuming you mean Luton!



Yes, lol. Been a long day already!

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 10 Nov 2022 10:23

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Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.


Presuming you mean Luton!

Richardson gone from Wigan too - seems harsh but they’re on a really poor run of form and will give a new manager an opportunity to work with the players during the break


Had he not just signed a new 2 year deal only a matter of 2 weeks ago?


He did - likely more money in his pocket then.


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Re: Rival Watch

by donh99 » 10 Nov 2022 15:07

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Confimred. Will be interesting to see what happens to Hull now.


Presuming you mean Luton!

Richardson gone from Wigan too - seems harsh but they’re on a really poor run of form and will give a new manager an opportunity to work with the players during the break


Had he not just signed a new 2 year deal only a matter of 2 weeks ago?


3 year deal 26th Oct.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hendo » 16 Nov 2022 17:20

Rob Edwards moves up the M1 replacing Nathan Jones as Luton boss.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 16 Nov 2022 21:32

Hendo Rob Edwards moves up the M1 replacing Nathan Jones as Luton boss.


Interesting* move. Wonder if the short lived Watford connection will work against him if things start slowly. Luton feels like a better fit for him.

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 17 Nov 2022 09:03

Seems like a decent move for both parties there and I think he will do well personally. It's a decent set up at Luton with a club who are looking to progress, be interesting to see how he gets on and what the expectations are for him, some big boots to fill.


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Re: Rival Watch

by paultheroyal » 17 Nov 2022 11:10

YorkshireRoyal99 Seems like a decent move for both parties there and I think he will do well personally. It's a decent set up at Luton with a club who are looking to progress, be interesting to see how he gets on and what the expectations are for him, some big boots to fill.


At five foot seven inches and shoe size 6 - not that big.

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Re: Rival Watch

by SpaghettiHoop » 18 Nov 2022 09:23

Just seen on BBC website
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 18 Nov 2022 09:32

SpaghettiHoop Just seen on BBC website
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?


No FFP losses are "only" 26.5m for the current period, helped by a near 16m profit made 4 years ago. Next year will be very tricky for them though unless they manage to bring in a decent wedge from sales.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 18 Nov 2022 10:58

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SpaghettiHoop Just seen on BBC website
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?


No FFP losses are "only" 26.5m for the current period, helped by a near 16m profit made 4 years ago. Next year will be very tricky for them though unless they manage to bring in a decent wedge from sales.


Not sure they’ve a huge lot to sell

It’s not like us this year where we’ve just had to cut right back - they surely need to make a huge profit this season and that isn’t happening

They used to sell very well - but think they reinvested a lot of that on pretty average players on high wages


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Re: Rival Watch

by Weymouth Royal » 18 Nov 2022 12:05

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SpaghettiHoop Just seen on BBC website
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?


No FFP losses are "only" 26.5m for the current period, helped by a near 16m profit made 4 years ago. Next year will be very tricky for them though unless they manage to bring in a decent wedge from sales.


Bristol City were panicking behind the scenes last summer, so next season will most definitely be interesting for them. Lots of cutting back to do, but they don't have a great deal of quality to sell. Definitely worth having some popcorn at the ready.

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Re: Rival Watch

by skipper » 18 Nov 2022 12:06

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SpaghettiHoop Just seen on BBC website
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?


No FFP losses are "only" 26.5m for the current period, helped by a near 16m profit made 4 years ago. Next year will be very tricky for them though unless they manage to bring in a decent wedge from sales.


Not sure they’ve a huge lot to sell

It’s not like us this year where we’ve just had to cut right back - they surely need to make a huge profit this season and that isn’t happening

They used to sell very well - but think they reinvested a lot of that on pretty average players on high wages


A bit like us a few years ago. With any luck they'll bounce back like we did, just as slowly...

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 18 Nov 2022 12:23

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63669051
Points deduction?


No FFP losses are "only" 26.5m for the current period, helped by a near 16m profit made 4 years ago. Next year will be very tricky for them though unless they manage to bring in a decent wedge from sales.


Not sure they’ve a huge lot to sell

It’s not like us this year where we’ve just had to cut right back - they surely need to make a huge profit this season and that isn’t happening

They used to sell very well - but think they reinvested a lot of that on pretty average players on high wages


Seems their wages has gone down by about £5m, but there are still players like Wells that are earning in excess of £20k a week according to some reports which he doesn't justify.

We were in a better position as we've had players that could have been sold over the years. Literally if we sold Moore and Swift when interest was high, we could have pocketed £10-15m for both of them and how different the situation would have looked then. Hindsight is 20-20 I suppose.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 18 Nov 2022 12:40

Not 100% site where Stranded has his info from (not saying it’s wrong) but basically they’ll be miles over the 39m loss when they do the accounts this time next year won’t they? It’ll be 10m loss, 38m, 26m, then this years undoubted loss for the 4 years or something like that won’t it?

Can’t see how they can escape a big punishment

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 18 Nov 2022 13:38

Hound Not 100% site where Stranded has his info from (not saying it’s wrong) but basically they’ll be miles over the 39m loss when they do the accounts this time next year won’t they? It’ll be 10m loss, 38m, 26m, then this years undoubted loss for the 4 years or something like that won’t it?

Can’t see how they can escape a big punishment


You'd think so, although I think 2 of these 4 years are averaged. I don't know if it's the £10m and £38m loss or the £38m and £26m loss etc. I don't really think it would matter though; they will have to make a profit (probably substantially) next year in order to avoid punishment.

They'll probably point to Covid ruining the transfer market as a reason, something their CEO keeps alluding to, which might soften their punishment. But it may end up being a 6-9 points deduction next season I'd imagine if this trend keeps going.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 18 Nov 2022 13:40

Hound Not 100% site where Stranded has his info from (not saying it’s wrong) but basically they’ll be miles over the 39m loss when they do the accounts this time next year won’t they? It’ll be 10m loss, 38m, 26m, then this years undoubted loss for the 4 years or something like that won’t it?

Can’t see how they can escape a big punishment


The figures I quoted have came directly from the accounts published yesterday. Kieran Maguire has done his usual excellent job of taking the key points out of those on Twitter, so worth a look before that gets switched off.

The FFP loss is 26.8m for the 4 year period, with years 2 and 3 averaged. Year 1 is a 15.8m profit. That drops out for the next calulation period, so they start the next period at nearly -43m, so to get back in line with the current rules, they will need to make around a 4m or yes, they will breach by a mile.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Nameless » 18 Nov 2022 14:52

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Hound Not 100% site where Stranded has his info from (not saying it’s wrong) but basically they’ll be miles over the 39m loss when they do the accounts this time next year won’t they? It’ll be 10m loss, 38m, 26m, then this years undoubted loss for the 4 years or something like that won’t it?

Can’t see how they can escape a big punishment


The figures I quoted have came directly from the accounts published yesterday. Kieran Maguire has done his usual excellent job of taking the key points out of those on Twitter, so worth a look before that gets switched off.

The FFP loss is 26.8m for the 4 year period, with years 2 and 3 averaged. Year 1 is a 15.8m profit. That drops out for the next calulation period, so they start the next period at nearly -43m, so to get back in line with the current rules, they will need to make around a 4m or yes, they will breach by a mile.


Given they are part of a multi sport set up all owned by the same bloke I’m sure they will find a way to move costs around.

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