by leon » 28 Oct 2017 17:37
by JR » 28 Oct 2017 17:37
windermereROYAL Slumped in my seat for the entire game, not a single thing made me stand up. says it all really, awful and woeful start too finish, McShane full back, WTF?
Sadly the clock must be ticking for Stam, and I`m sure he knows it, Not a clean sheet at home yet, for a world class defender as coach that is unacceptable.
Tuesday must be his last chance.
by JR » 28 Oct 2017 17:41
genome Less than 3 points on Tuesday and I am done.
by Oilroyal » 28 Oct 2017 17:43
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How is the penalty and the clash of heads Stam's fault?
Could be argued that McShane should have partnered Moore but that would be harsh on Stam. At the end of the day nothing is going right atm
I actually think he did ok at RB. Gunter starting at LB and Blackett on the bench says more about Stam's opinion of Blackett I would say.
I thought most of the time we were ok - the first 10 minutes was the most positive start we've seen in ages. Same in the 2nd half. Both goals were hammer blows - the penalty was against the flow and unlucky (ie it wasn't the result of lots pressure play building up). The second was a shambles - Blackett could (at a stretch) got to it before the Boro player who then crossed it in. Mannone /(McShane was blaming Gunter afterwards).McShane / Gunter confused
If we lose on Tuesday I think Stam's days are numbered - rightly or wrongly.
by Hound » 28 Oct 2017 17:45
by RG7Fan » 28 Oct 2017 17:48
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Could be argued that McShane should have partnered Moore but that would be harsh on Stam. At the end of the day nothing is going right atm
I actually think he did ok at RB. Gunter starting at LB and Blackett on the bench says more about Stam's opinion of Blackett I would say.
I thought most of the time we were ok - the first 10 minutes was the most positive start we've seen in ages. Same in the 2nd half. Both goals were hammer blows - the penalty was against the flow and unlucky (ie it wasn't the result of lots pressure play building up). The second was a shambles - Blackett could (at a stretch) got to it before the Boro player who then crossed it in. Mannone /(McShane was blaming Gunter afterwards).McShane / Gunter confused
If we lose on Tuesday I think Stam's days are numbered - rightly or wrongly.
McShane and Gunter confused? That’s odd as they’re usually half decent in their rightful positions. Oh, wait a minute.
I would like nothing more than for Stam to sort this mess out, but the writing was on the wall pre-season and blatant after our first game of the season against QPR.
by genome » 28 Oct 2017 17:48
JRgenome Less than 3 points on Tuesday and I am done.
You lot are driving me nuts this evening.
Yes we can express our frustration about poor individual performances or concern about Stam appearing to grasp at straws with some of his formation / tactical decisions, but a lot of the hob nob rhetoric is nonsense.
What does "I am done" even mean?!!
by Oilroyal » 28 Oct 2017 17:50
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I actually think he did ok at RB. Gunter starting at LB and Blackett on the bench says more about Stam's opinion of Blackett I would say.
I thought most of the time we were ok - the first 10 minutes was the most positive start we've seen in ages. Same in the 2nd half. Both goals were hammer blows - the penalty was against the flow and unlucky (ie it wasn't the result of lots pressure play building up). The second was a shambles - Blackett could (at a stretch) got to it before the Boro player who then crossed it in. Mannone / (McShane was blaming Gunter afterwards).
If we lose on Tuesday I think Stam's days are numbered - rightly or wrongly.
McShane and Gunter confused? That’s odd as they’re usually half decent in their rightful positions. Oh, wait a minute.
I would like nothing more than for Stam to sort this mess out, but the writing was on the wall pre-season and blatant after our first game of the season against QPR.
But they were in their right positions when the Boro scored their second ...
by JR » 28 Oct 2017 17:52
genomeJRgenome Less than 3 points on Tuesday and I am done.
You lot are driving me nuts this evening.
Yes we can express our frustration about poor individual performances or concern about Stam appearing to grasp at straws with some of his formation / tactical decisions, but a lot of the hob nob rhetoric is nonsense.
What does "I am done" even mean?!!
It means I think Stam should probably go. Relax!
I empathise with you, and if you read the boards last season I'm normally in your position defending the club against all the hyperbole and overreaction that supporters tend to throw out. So I'm not one to just throw statements out there and I don't say it lightly.
But I think his position is starting to become untenable - it's the performances more than the results for me. I think we have been found out and Stam is too stubborn to adapt.
by RG7Fan » 28 Oct 2017 17:56
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McShane and Gunter confused? That’s odd as they’re usually half decent in their rightful positions. Oh, wait a minute.
I would like nothing more than for Stam to sort this mess out, but the writing was on the wall pre-season and blatant after our first game of the season against QPR.
But they were in their right positions when the Boro scored their second ...
and we played well for the first 10 minutes ... the mind boggles!
by West Stand Man » 28 Oct 2017 17:58
double d I walked out after 70 minites. Utter rubbish from reading and stam. Good bye and good riddince. Worst football I have ever seen in 27 years of supporting reading no wonder why I decided to support another team. Terrible manager and terrible football. The club should refund fans for these performances
Frankly good riddance to you Double D - you're not the sort of fan we need.
We were not terrible today - we were a low confidence team that had good spells but were hit by suckerpunches
I would also be delighted if Blackett never put on a Reading shirt ever again. How someone that talentless could have made United's first team is baffling.
But Tuesday is massive - football is such a confidence game and we need something to boost us or we will slide in to a relegation battle.
by Oilroyal » 28 Oct 2017 17:58
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But they were in their right positions when the Boro scored their second ...
and we played well for the first 10 minutes ... the mind boggles!
I actually think Gunter is a better left back than right back - just think he is very negative on the right when going forward (or not as the case may be).
For the second goal both McShane and Gunter were either side of Assomba (from memory), and Mannone probably could have come out and stopped it getting through. It didn't really have anything to do with whether they were in their right positions or not - they're both defenders and should be able to sort that kind of thing. But of course no-one is 100% all of the time - just one of those things.
JRdouble d I walked out after 70 minites. Utter rubbish from reading and stam. Good bye and good riddince. Worst football I have ever seen in 27 years of supporting reading no wonder why I decided to support another team. Terrible manager and terrible football. The club should refund fans for these performances
Frankly good riddance to you Double D - you're not the sort of fan we need.
We were not terrible today - we were a low confidence team that had good spells but were hit by suckerpunches.
We are not being thrashed - today was only the second time we have lost by more than one goal - but football is a game of fine margins and at the moment most of them are going against us.
I applaud Stam for picking Sam Smith today and thought the lad did very well - actually made lots of good runs that weren't noticed by the midfielders.
A few things did concern me - Kelly looks a poor player at the moment, failing with straightforward passes and Swift is just frustratingly laxidasical.
I would also be delighted if Blackett never put on a Reading shirt ever again. How someone that talentless could have made United's first team is baffling.
But Tuesday is massive - football is such a confidence game and we need something to boost us or we will slide in to a relegation battle.
JRgenome Less than 3 points on Tuesday and I am done.
You lot are driving me nuts this evening.
Yes we can express our frustration about poor individual performances or concern about Stam appearing to grasp at straws with some of his formation / tactical decisions, but a lot of the hob nob rhetoric is nonsense.
What does "I am done" even mean?!!
by bobby1413 » 28 Oct 2017 18:05
by genome » 28 Oct 2017 18:10
bobby1413 Some people need their head or eyes examined. That really was not a bad performance.
by RG7Fan » 28 Oct 2017 18:11
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and we played well for the first 10 minutes ... the mind boggles!
I actually think Gunter is a better left back than right back - just think he is very negative on the right when going forward (or not as the case may be).
For the second goal both McShane and Gunter were either side of Assomba (from memory), and Mannone probably could have come out and stopped it getting through. It didn't really have anything to do with whether they were in their right positions or not - they're both defenders and should be able to sort that kind of thing. But of course no-one is 100% all of the time - just one of those things.
we're in a bad way RG ... no two ways about it.
by RG7Fan » 28 Oct 2017 18:13
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Oct 2017 18:18
Hound Ian, can see your point but it goes deeper than that. Smith played well and caused problems but we inexplicably barely passed to the guy. He ran the channels, harassed, won a few headers ad generally put himself about. The service to him was abysmal, he could barely have done any more
by Oilroyal » 28 Oct 2017 18:28
bobby1413 Some people need their head or eyes examined. That really was not a bad performance. Same issues with strikers and shots but the team ethic and performance as a whole was good.
Seriously, not sure whether half of you are spoilt or blind.
I'd imagine Boro will be posting or saying that we played well but just (once again) lacked anything in terms of striking.
To sack Stam because of this is deluded and short sighted.
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