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Re: Ex Players

by NewCorkSeth » 21 Jul 2019 15:22

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Snowflake Royal Say no to players 'who can play' x. Specialists please. Midfielders in midfield, defenders in defence.

Unless you buy Thierry Henry from Juventus. Hes allowed to switch from winger to striker.

Converting a player to a new position isn't the same as making do with them out of position.

How do you know I wasnt suggesting converting Hector to the DM role?

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Re: Ex Players

by Sutekh » 21 Jul 2019 16:47

Nick Bignall now on the books of Bracknell Town

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jul 2019 17:54

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NewCorkSeth Unless you buy Thierry Henry from Juventus. Hes allowed to switch from winger to striker.

Converting a player to a new position isn't the same as making do with them out of position.

How do you know I wasnt suggesting converting Hector to the DM role?

Because it would be crazy to buy a player just to convert them?

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Re: Ex Players

by NewCorkSeth » 21 Jul 2019 17:55

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Snowflake Royal Converting a player to a new position isn't the same as making do with them out of position.

How do you know I wasnt suggesting converting Hector to the DM role?

Because it would be crazy to buy a player just to convert them?

Tell that to Arsene Wenger..

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jul 2019 17:59

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NewCorkSeth How do you know I wasnt suggesting converting Hector to the DM role?

Because it would be crazy to buy a player just to convert them?

Tell that to Arsene Wenger..

I'm sure Wenger didn't sign Henry with the express plan of converting him to a striker. I'm also sure Henry was much younger and less fully formed as a player. You're just being daft now.


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Re: Ex Players

by NewCorkSeth » 21 Jul 2019 18:02

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Snowflake Royal Because it would be crazy to buy a player just to convert them?

Tell that to Arsene Wenger..

I'm sure Wenger didn't sign Henry with the express plan of converting him to a striker. I'm also sure Henry was much younger and less fully formed as a player. You're just being daft now.

He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jul 2019 18:06

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NewCorkSeth Tell that to Arsene Wenger..

I'm sure Wenger didn't sign Henry with the express plan of converting him to a striker. I'm also sure Henry was much younger and less fully formed as a player. You're just being daft now.

He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

In any case, one exceptional exception proves nothing.

Midfielders in midfield. Attackers in attack. Defenders in defence.

I can't believe people still haven't learnt that square pegs don't fit in round holes.

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Re: Ex Players

by WestYorksRoyal » 21 Jul 2019 18:26

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Snowflake Royal I'm sure Wenger didn't sign Henry with the express plan of converting him to a striker. I'm also sure Henry was much younger and less fully formed as a player. You're just being daft now.

He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

In any case, one exceptional exception proves nothing.

Midfielders in midfield. Attackers in attack. Defenders in defence.

I can't believe people still haven't learnt that square pegs don't fit in round holes.
It's really quite common for a perceptive manager or coach to see traits in a player which may make them well suited to a different position. Aaron Wan-Bissaka was a winger who got moved to RB as a recent example.

In Hector's case, he was a decent CB who was good on the ball. It made sense to try him as a DM, as City did with Stones.

I'd still sign him as a CB, but versatility is very useful across a long season with injuries etc., so it would be a major positive to know he can do a job further up if need be.

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 21 Jul 2019 18:28

We don't need someone who can 'do a job'. We need actual midfielders.


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Re: Ex Players

by The Enfield Royal71 » 23 Jul 2019 11:23

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Snowflake Royal I'm sure Wenger didn't sign Henry with the express plan of converting him to a striker. I'm also sure Henry was much younger and less fully formed as a player. You're just being daft now.

He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

In any case, one exceptional exception proves nothing.

Midfielders in midfield. Attackers in attack. Defenders in defence.

I can't believe people still haven't learnt that square pegs don't fit in round holes.


I think that as a professional football player you should have some versatility and be able to play in a few positions

Rashford, Son and Hazard are great examples of strikers and wingers. Kane would make an incredible CAM behind a front 2 if anybody wanted to play that way.

A solid CB should be able play CDM and vice versa, a la fabinho or milner .

There are numerous players who went from gk > striker and vice versa.

Heck, even Greg Halford played upfront for a bit and was a better striker then cb.

I reckon Kitson would have made a half decent cb.

Obviously most times it doesn't work out like putting Kante anywhere else apart from CDM.

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Re: Ex Players

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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Jul 2019 11:37

The Enfield Royal71 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-kitson-pulis-attack-2093630.amp

Well Kitson really doesn't come across well out of that and it's him telling the story!

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Re: Ex Players

by Coppells Lost Coat » 23 Jul 2019 12:02

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The Enfield Royal71 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-kitson-pulis-attack-2093630.amp

Well Kitson really doesn't come across well out of that and it's him telling the story!


Quite refreshing to read that.
Footballers and managers always try and portray they are the good ones in the stories.
Nothing new about Pulis, he is well known for being a bully and one dimensional. I think Kitson done another story how he was thrown into the reserves for refusing to go in hard on players the week after the Ramsey incident.


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Re: Ex Players

by 3points » 23 Jul 2019 12:13

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NewCorkSeth He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

In any case, one exceptional exception proves nothing.

Midfielders in midfield. Attackers in attack. Defenders in defence.

I can't believe people still haven't learnt that square pegs don't fit in round holes.


I think that as a professional football player you should have some versatility and be able to play in a few positions

Rashford, Son and Hazard are great examples of strikers and wingers. Kane would make an incredible CAM behind a front 2 if anybody wanted to play that way.

A solid CB should be able play CDM and vice versa, a la fabinho or milner .

There are numerous players who went from gk > striker and vice versa.

Heck, even Greg Halford played upfront for a bit and was a better striker then cb.

I reckon Kitson would have made a half decent cb.

Obviously most times it doesn't work out like putting Kante anywhere else apart from CDM.

Yann would have been a good centre half too

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Re: Ex Players

by sandman » 24 Jul 2019 20:03

Kalifa Cisse joins the backroom staff at Bristol City.

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/cisse-returns-to-ashton-gate/

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Re: Ex Players

by From Despair To Where? » 24 Jul 2019 20:39

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NewCorkSeth He was 22 had made 120something league apps and was certainly bought by his former manager to play as a striker. You need to bone up on the greatest ever premier league striker.

In any case, one exceptional exception proves nothing.

Midfielders in midfield. Attackers in attack. Defenders in defence.

I can't believe people still haven't learnt that square pegs don't fit in round holes.
It's really quite common for a perceptive manager or coach to see traits in a player which may make them well suited to a different position. Aaron Wan-Bissaka was a winger who got moved to RB as a recent example.

In Hector's case, he was a decent CB who was good on the ball. It made sense to try him as a DM, as City did with Stones.

I'd still sign him as a CB, but versatility is very useful across a long season with injuries etc., so it would be a major positive to know he can do a job further up if need be.


Van Persie, Bale and Kompany are other examples of players who switched position.

And closer to home, Yiadom and Obita both started out as wingers.

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Re: Ex Players

by Mid Sussex Royal » 25 Jul 2019 12:23

Gravenbirch played for Bury last night :)

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Re: Ex Players

by John Smith » 29 Jul 2019 10:29

Eagerly awaiting the time when I can talk about both Sam Walker and Joao Viginia being ex-players in this thread. Total dross the pair of them.

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Re: Ex Players

by windermereROYAL » 29 Jul 2019 10:41

Judging a young keeper on 45 minutes in a pre-season friendly, I despair sometimes.

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Re: Ex Players

by John Smith » 29 Jul 2019 10:57

windermereROYAL Judging a young keeper on 45 minutes in a pre-season friendly, I despair sometimes.

I despair with why are signing young keepers as first choice for 46 games of hard graft in an unforgiving league.

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