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Re: Ex Players

by Hendo » 01 Dec 2020 16:40

SWLR
morganb Defender Gabriel Osho finally has a new club - Luton Town. The centre-back was released by Royals at the end of last season

https://mobile.twitter.com/jonathanl50/ ... 6471672832


Pleased for him. No doubt another one for Luton to sell to the Premier League for big bucks... we shall see. Look forward to him scoring against us :cry:


And loaned out to Yeovil.

I can't help thinking that he might've been better off taking a reduced wage/same wage to stay with us, but each to their own.

Apparently the loan ends the week that they're due to play us in the cup, so may still feature.

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Re: Ex Players

by NewCorkSeth » 01 Dec 2020 17:47

Old Man Andrews He was never really a good fit there.

Think someone like Nigel Adkins would do a really good job for Sunderland. Promotion specialist and experience of working under a tight budget.

Adkins would be a coup for them. Sunderland have a decent academy dont they? Give Adkins some time at the helm and he would get them up.

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Re: Ex Players

by tidus_mi2 » 01 Dec 2020 18:51

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Old Man Andrews He was never really a good fit there.

Think someone like Nigel Adkins would do a really good job for Sunderland. Promotion specialist and experience of working under a tight budget.

Adkins would be a coup for them. Sunderland have a decent academy dont they? Give Adkins some time at the helm and he would get them up.

He's settled down South so it would be a big move to go to Sunderland.

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Re: Ex Players

by ayjaydee » 05 Dec 2020 16:16

G Mac scores for Wycombe, good signing for them

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Re: Ex Players

by Hound » 05 Dec 2020 16:17

Yeah pleased for him. Plus I hate Preston


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Re: Ex Players

by bcubed » 05 Dec 2020 16:38

Decent strike too

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 15 Dec 2020 10:00

As some may have guessed, sounds like Adkins didn’t want Drenthe

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.getr ... 380700.amp

Quite liked Adkins, made some good signings here and blooded some youngsters through, not sure it would have been too bad a thing I’d we’d stuck with him

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Re: Ex Players

by tidus_mi2 » 15 Dec 2020 10:07

URZZZZ As some may have guessed, sounds like Adkins didn’t want Drenthe

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.getr ... 380700.amp

Quite liked Adkins, made some good signings here and blooded some youngsters through, not sure it would have been too bad a thing I’d we’d stuck with him

Makes me like Adkins even more and on the same token, dislike AZ even more. He did a great job in difficult circumstances and was really sacked as a kneejerk reaction to the terrible 6-1 defeat to Brum.

I supported the sacking at the time as results had been on a downward trend but in hindsight, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, I do feel he was poorly treated, would honestly welcome him back if we had a change of manager in the future.

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 15 Dec 2020 12:06

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URZZZZ As some may have guessed, sounds like Adkins didn’t want Drenthe

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.getr ... 380700.amp

Quite liked Adkins, made some good signings here and blooded some youngsters through, not sure it would have been too bad a thing I’d we’d stuck with him

Makes me like Adkins even more and on the same token, dislike AZ even more. He did a great job in difficult circumstances and was really sacked as a kneejerk reaction to the terrible 6-1 defeat to Brum.

I supported the sacking at the time as results had been on a downward trend but in hindsight, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, I do feel he was poorly treated, would honestly welcome him back if we had a change of manager in the future.


Agreed, I'm pretty sure there was a consensus that it'd be better moving on from Adkins at the time, but obviously very few actually know what goes on behind the scenes

Although I do think he is exaggerating the "team full of youngsters" part, given his team had regular inclusions such as Federici, Gunter, Kelly, Pearce, Norwood, Williams, McCleary, Mackie, Murray, Kanu etc


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Re: Ex Players

by Snowflake Royal » 15 Dec 2020 12:12

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URZZZZ As some may have guessed, sounds like Adkins didn’t want Drenthe

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.getr ... 380700.amp

Quite liked Adkins, made some good signings here and blooded some youngsters through, not sure it would have been too bad a thing I’d we’d stuck with him

Makes me like Adkins even more and on the same token, dislike AZ even more. He did a great job in difficult circumstances and was really sacked as a kneejerk reaction to the terrible 6-1 defeat to Brum.

I supported the sacking at the time as results had been on a downward trend but in hindsight, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, I do feel he was poorly treated, would honestly welcome him back if we had a change of manager in the future.


Agreed, I'm pretty sure there was a consensus that it'd be better moving on from Adkins at the time, but obviously very few actually know what goes on behind the scenes

Although I do think he is exaggerating the "team full of youngsters" part, given his team had regular inclusions such as Federici, Gunter, Kelly, Pearce, Norwood, Williams, McCleary, Mackie, Murray, Kanu etc

Quite a few of these players were young back then.... Kanu,Pearce, Karacan, Morrison, McCarthy, Hector, Taylor, Kuhl, Cummings, all early 20s or less

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Re: Ex Players

by muirinho » 15 Dec 2020 12:39

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tidus_mi2 Makes me like Adkins even more and on the same token, dislike AZ even more. He did a great job in difficult circumstances and was really sacked as a kneejerk reaction to the terrible 6-1 defeat to Brum.

I supported the sacking at the time as results had been on a downward trend but in hindsight, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, I do feel he was poorly treated, would honestly welcome him back if we had a change of manager in the future.


Agreed, I'm pretty sure there was a consensus that it'd be better moving on from Adkins at the time, but obviously very few actually know what goes on behind the scenes

Although I do think he is exaggerating the "team full of youngsters" part, given his team had regular inclusions such as Federici, Gunter, Kelly, Pearce, Norwood, Williams, McCleary, Mackie, Murray, Kanu etc

Quite a few of these players were young back then.... Kanu,Pearce, Karacan, Morrison, McCarthy, Hector, Taylor, Kuhl, Cummings, all early 20s or less


Agree definitely, it was on average a pretty young team. Of the players mentioned in the first post, Norwood would only have been 23, most of the others would have been mid 20s. Kelly was older, yes, but Adkins preferred Gunter anyway (who was 24/25 during Adkins reign). Federici didn't play that much under Adkins either, wasn't he injured?
The older players - Mackie, Sharp and Murray were in on loan anyway - I think it's fair to say Adkins would have gone for younger strikers if he'd had money for transfers (and freedom to make his own choices!). And clearly there wasn't anybody good enough coming through from the Academy in that role, we don't seem to produce many strikers from the Academy

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Re: Ex Players

by Vision » 15 Dec 2020 12:56

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Agreed, I'm pretty sure there was a consensus that it'd be better moving on from Adkins at the time, but obviously very few actually know what goes on behind the scenes

Although I do think he is exaggerating the "team full of youngsters" part, given his team had regular inclusions such as Federici, Gunter, Kelly, Pearce, Norwood, Williams, McCleary, Mackie, Murray, Kanu etc

Quite a few of these players were young back then.... Kanu,Pearce, Karacan, Morrison, McCarthy, Hector, Taylor, Kuhl, Cummings, all early 20s or less


Agree definitely, it was on average a pretty young team. Of the players mentioned in the first post, Norwood would only have been 23, most of the others would have been mid 20s. Kelly was older, yes, but Adkins preferred Gunter anyway (who was 24/25 during Adkins reign). Federici didn't play that much under Adkins either, wasn't he injured?
The older players - Mackie, Sharp and Murray were in on loan anyway - I think it's fair to say Adkins would have gone for younger strikers if he'd had money for transfers (and freedom to make his own choices!). And clearly there wasn't anybody good enough coming through from the Academy in that role, we don't seem to produce many strikers from the Academy


He signed Simon Cox didn't he ?

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Re: Ex Players

by muirinho » 15 Dec 2020 13:27

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Snowflake Royal Quite a few of these players were young back then.... Kanu,Pearce, Karacan, Morrison, McCarthy, Hector, Taylor, Kuhl, Cummings, all early 20s or less


Agree definitely, it was on average a pretty young team. Of the players mentioned in the first post, Norwood would only have been 23, most of the others would have been mid 20s. Kelly was older, yes, but Adkins preferred Gunter anyway (who was 24/25 during Adkins reign). Federici didn't play that much under Adkins either, wasn't he injured?
The older players - Mackie, Sharp and Murray were in on loan anyway - I think it's fair to say Adkins would have gone for younger strikers if he'd had money for transfers (and freedom to make his own choices!). And clearly there wasn't anybody good enough coming through from the Academy in that role, we don't seem to produce many strikers from the Academy


He signed Simon Cox didn't he ?


That's true I'd forgotten him. Sorry Simon. "Interesting" or "Coincidence" that all the older players he brought in were strikers


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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 16 Dec 2020 00:56

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Agree definitely, it was on average a pretty young team. Of the players mentioned in the first post, Norwood would only have been 23, most of the others would have been mid 20s. Kelly was older, yes, but Adkins preferred Gunter anyway (who was 24/25 during Adkins reign). Federici didn't play that much under Adkins either, wasn't he injured?
The older players - Mackie, Sharp and Murray were in on loan anyway - I think it's fair to say Adkins would have gone for younger strikers if he'd had money for transfers (and freedom to make his own choices!). And clearly there wasn't anybody good enough coming through from the Academy in that role, we don't seem to produce many strikers from the Academy


He signed Simon Cox didn't he ?


That's true I'd forgotten him. Sorry Simon. "Interesting" or "Coincidence" that all the older players he brought in were strikers


I think Wayne Bridge and Anton Ferdinand may have something to say about that!

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 16 Dec 2020 01:02

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tidus_mi2 Makes me like Adkins even more and on the same token, dislike AZ even more. He did a great job in difficult circumstances and was really sacked as a kneejerk reaction to the terrible 6-1 defeat to Brum.

I supported the sacking at the time as results had been on a downward trend but in hindsight, knowing what was going on behind the scenes, I do feel he was poorly treated, would honestly welcome him back if we had a change of manager in the future.


Agreed, I'm pretty sure there was a consensus that it'd be better moving on from Adkins at the time, but obviously very few actually know what goes on behind the scenes

Although I do think he is exaggerating the "team full of youngsters" part, given his team had regular inclusions such as Federici, Gunter, Kelly, Pearce, Norwood, Williams, McCleary, Mackie, Murray, Kanu etc

Quite a few of these players were young back then.... Kanu,Pearce, Karacan, Morrison, McCarthy, Hector, Taylor, Kuhl, Cummings, all early 20s or less


Point taken but he refers to “kids” in his interview there, not sure many of them are tbh

Kuhl was, but he rarely played once we’d got our midfield options back (and ended up 5/6th choice pretty quickly)

Hector and Cooper were and I guess between them they featured a fair bit

Just think that whilst I value Adkins’ role and work with the squad, there was a slight exaggeration on the amount of academy guys we actually ended up playing, especially towards the end of his tenure here. Am surprised, however, that he hasn’t been snatched up by anyone in his 18 months out of work

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Re: Ex Players

by Simmops » 16 Dec 2020 13:49

Lewis Garannan scores on his return

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Re: Ex Players

by The Cube » 16 Dec 2020 17:56

Royalwaster Greg Halford story:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55333833


"...the former Sunderland, Cardiff, Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth and Colchester defender..."

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Re: Ex Players

by Pepe the Horseman » 16 Dec 2020 18:31

Clip going round of that Barcelonaesque goal we scored at Hull after Steve Clarke left. Had no recollection at all of Andrew Taylor playing for us, and had to Google to find out who he was.

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Re: Ex Players

by URZZZZ » 24 Dec 2020 12:03

Roy Beerens has retired at the age of 33

Underrated player, another one of a growing list who spent some of his time here being used in the wrong way but was clearly a fairly decent player

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