Next Manager

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Next?

Gareth Ainsworth
28
14%
Mark Hughes
12
6%
Chris Hughton
93
46%
John O’Shea
3
1%
Alan Pardew
4
2%
Phil Parkinson
21
10%
Gary Rowett
7
3%
Other (please specify)
11
5%
Someone unknown from the continent
6
3%
Ian Royal
17
8%
 
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Re: Next Manager

by Hound » 09 Oct 2019 12:13

Karanka would be a good shout actually

I'm assuming Hughton wouldn't come, but Hughes and Karanka would be my next two choices out of the possibles

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Re: Next Manager

by SCIAG » 09 Oct 2019 12:15

Stranded Given our last 3 appointments have been men with little to no experience of managing at our level (or at all) - I think we can safely assume they are going to go with someone with extensive experience of the English game at this level or above.

We won't be taking a "gamble" on someone like Ainsworth this time.

Could just as easily argue that we haven't appointed an experienced manager for a long time so won't be doing it now.

After all, an experienced manager who is currently unemployed is probably either going to be too good for us (Hughes, Hughton, Allegri), or will have a record of failure at this level (everyone else).

Karanka and Rowett probably the best realistic shouts but good argument for just taking another punt. Could be another Stam.

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Re: Next Manager

by Lower West » 09 Oct 2019 12:23

genome He failed because he wasn't flexible enough. Not because he "didn't know the league".


Lack of experience and tactical nouse. Rather than play a fixed formation. A good manager uses the players available in a system they are comfortable with. Then build forward from there. Stam has was happy for Stacey and Cooper to leave. Both would have served us well.

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Re: Next Manager

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Oct 2019 12:24

No to Rowett. This club needs stability, and history shows that when he does well he jumps at the first chance when he gets a marginally better offer.

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Re: Next Manager

by Stranded » 09 Oct 2019 12:25

SCIAG
Stranded Given our last 3 appointments have been men with little to no experience of managing at our level (or at all) - I think we can safely assume they are going to go with someone with extensive experience of the English game at this level or above.

We won't be taking a "gamble" on someone like Ainsworth this time.

Could just as easily argue that we haven't appointed an experienced manager for a long time so won't be doing it now.

After all, an experienced manager who is currently unemployed is probably either going to be too good for us (Hughes, Hughton, Allegri), or will have a record of failure at this level (everyone else).

Karanka and Rowett probably the best realistic shouts but good argument for just taking another punt. Could be another Stam.


Guess it all depends on how quickly you want to move mid-season. It seems the club want the new man in place before they make any announcement - that suggests it will most likely be a realistic shout or a push for a "bigger" name rather than someone leftfield or in a job at a lower league club.


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Re: Next Manager

by Old Man Andrews » 09 Oct 2019 12:25

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genome He failed because he wasn't flexible enough. Not because he "didn't know the league".


Lack of experience and tactical nouse. Rather than play a fixed formation. A good manager uses the players available in a system they are comfortable with. Then build forward from there. Stam has was happy for Stacey and Cooper to leave. Both would have served us well.

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Re: Next Manager

by genome » 09 Oct 2019 12:30

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genome He failed because he wasn't flexible enough. Not because he "didn't know the league".


Lack of experience and tactical nouse. Rather than play a fixed formation. A good manager uses the players available in a system they are comfortable with. Then build forward from there. Stam has was happy for Stacey and Cooper to leave. Both would have served us well.


Lack of experience as a manager =/= lack of experience in a specific league.

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Re: Next Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Oct 2019 12:34

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Stranded Given our last 3 appointments have been men with little to no experience of managing at our level (or at all) - I think we can safely assume they are going to go with someone with extensive experience of the English game at this level or above.

We won't be taking a "gamble" on someone like Ainsworth this time.

Could just as easily argue that we haven't appointed an experienced manager for a long time so won't be doing it now.

After all, an experienced manager who is currently unemployed is probably either going to be too good for us (Hughes, Hughton, Allegri), or will have a record of failure at this level (everyone else).

Karanka and Rowett probably the best realistic shouts but good argument for just taking another punt. Could be another Stam.

We don't want another shit manager.

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Re: Next Manager

by royalp-we » 09 Oct 2019 13:12

Would be happy with most of the names mentioned. Hughton or Hughes would be great. Just please don’t go anywhere near Miguel Cardoso - just a Gomes mk2.


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Re: Next Manager

by Notts Royal » 09 Oct 2019 13:23

It’s becoming boring supporting this club isn’t it - watching the same old mistakes being made, same poor recruitment every summer, same churn of staff

The fact we’re sacking yet another manager is proof that we’re making the wrong decisions in the first place

The personality has to fit. I’d say probably Hughton would be the best fit

What has to change first & foremost is the owners expectations. You can’t expect promotion within 1 season after 5 seasons of turmoil. It’s at least a 3 year project (sounding like Rodgers here!). Yes Gomes looks out of his depth but set some blooming achievable targets for Pete’s sake

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Re: Next Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Oct 2019 13:26

Notts Royal It’s becoming boring supporting this club isn’t it - watching the same old mistakes being made, same poor recruitment every summer, same churn of staff

The fact we’re sacking yet another manager is proof that we’re making the wrong decisions in the first place

The personality has to fit. I’d say probably Hughton would be the best fit

What has to change first & foremost is the owners expectations. You can’t expect promotion within 1 season after 5 seasons of turmoil. It’s at least a 3 year project (sounding like Rodgers here!). Yes Gomes looks out of his depth but set some blooming achievable targets for Pete’s sake

Presumably there are minimum expectations and those are don't be in a relegation fight in October /November / December after being appointed in December - March.

Sadly most of our managers have failed at that basic second hurdle.

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Re: Next Manager

by Sutekh » 09 Oct 2019 13:30

The Chronicle saying that is is reported that talks are underway with Mr Hughes

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/spor ... g-reports/

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Re: Next Manager

by John Madejski's Wallet » 09 Oct 2019 13:31

Hughes is UTTERDOGSHIT

What a shambles


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Re: Next Manager

by Hound » 09 Oct 2019 13:34

Im genuinely confused why an experienced manager with a half decent record over a long period of time seems to be stirring up such poor feeling

I know he is a bit of a cock. Don't think anyone can deny that. But otherwise not really sure why the hatred

tbf likewise why quite so much fawning from some about a dodgy manager who was basically placed here out of panic and a whim of an agent. I know he is a handsome chap with a lovely smile and nice way with words, but other than that not a huge amount going for him

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Re: Next Manager

by genome » 09 Oct 2019 13:37

Me too. Baffling

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Re: Next Manager

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Oct 2019 13:39

Hound Im genuinely confused why an experienced manager with a half decent record over a long period of time seems to be stirring up such poor feeling

I know he is a bit of a cock. Don't think anyone can deny that. But otherwise not really sure why the hatred

He's a dick, as you say. Other than that, I agree with you. It seems people want an experienced manager with no blemish on their CV. We're not a club who can get that. We either give a promising younger manager a chance, as Ipswich did with Paul Hurst, or accept one with a more mixed record.

In terms of personality, I'd see Hughton as a better fit and overall I'd say his record is better. But I doubt we'd convince him to come here, so Hughes looks like a rational choice.

And, as I've alluded to elsewhere, the players probably deserve a manager who can be a bit of a dick at times. They need a kick up the bum.

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Re: Next Manager

by Hound » 09 Oct 2019 13:41

yes, I've not really considered Hughton as I think there is little chance of him coming. I'd certainly prefer him, but again comes with some caveats. The main one being is that he is again a cracking chap. Always liked him. I'm not sure that's what we need. Also just that bit older at 60. Would hope Hughes still has plenty of desire and ambition at 55

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Re: Next Manager

by royalp-we » 09 Oct 2019 13:45

Cut it out guys, far too sensible for HNA?

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Re: Next Manager

by Sutekh » 09 Oct 2019 13:51

I notice that in addition to Mark Bowen Mr Hughes’ seems also to have worked a lot with former Reading assistant and caretaker manager Eddie Niedzwiecki.

Wondering if Eddie may also be part of any managerial change.

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Re: Next Manager

by Stranded » 09 Oct 2019 13:52

John Madejski's Wallet Hughes is UTTERDOGSHIT

What a shambles


He really, really isn't. He had a terrible time at Soton at the start of last season but had kept them up the season before. He has a Premier League win ratio of 38% in over 500 games - which equates to an average PL season of around 46 to 48 points which for the clubs he's managed up there is pretty decent record.

If he translates his record to us over the course of the next 35 games, we'll be comfortably safe and only a small increase in his win % to say 42% would likely see us in the top half.

He is a solid manager coming off the back of a bad job - that is the only reason why he is available. I understand the reticence but lets not pretend he's worse than he actually is. Some of his teams have played decent football too but he is pragmatic enough to find a system that suits the players he has rather than fit the players to a system.

I'm strangely warming to the probability without being a massive supporter of it as a move. I think I like the fact he seems to be a bit of an arse as this squad seems to need a right old kick up the backside.

Not sure those who are not Gunter fans are going to be too happy as he will likely find his way back to the 1st team fold now.
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