BFTG Wednesday (A)

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by leon » 16 Feb 2020 12:17

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We failed to win that game due to one late mistake. Probably from mental and physical fatigue.
think you missed the point. I don’t think the cup game had much to do with it. It’s a common theme for us against lower table teams who sit very deep and don’t pressure the ball. We lack creativity in midfield and movement up front. We do not counter attack with pace when we get the occasional chance to do that against that type of team

Not sure how you can say we lack creativity in midfield with Swift and Ejaria.

I don't think I've missed the point at all. Our performance against Hull is easily explained by fatigue.

Stoke, Barnsley and Birmingham are really the only disappointing results we've had against more limited teams and two of them were away. Maybe include Cardiff, but that's another away. And we only lost one of them. QPR were high flying when we played then, plus away.


I’d argue most of the teams we’ve played have been limited. The standard this season is pretty average.

3p makes a good point - for a midfield of supposedly creative players we don’t create enough. I think we have on occasion but not consistently. Our movement needs working on from receiving the ball in midfield to upfront.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by WestYorksRoyal » 16 Feb 2020 12:25

It's about movement as a team and creating opportunities for our creative players. Case in point yesterday; no Ejaria assist without the Meite run.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by leon » 16 Feb 2020 12:28

WestYorksRoyal It's about movement as a team and creating opportunities for our creative players. Case in point yesterday; no Ejaria assist without the Meite run.


Well quite.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Snowflake Royal » 16 Feb 2020 12:39

Yes, Seth is spot on about decisions, as is the point about movement. There's certainly room for improvement and without Swift or Eharia or if they don't play well we do unsurprisingly look toothless.

But the argument that we can't breakdown weaker or middling defensive teams just doesn't really hold up when you look at our results under Bowen, especially with our creative dangermen available.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Lower West » 16 Feb 2020 12:54

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3points think you missed the point. I don’t think the cup game had much to do with it. It’s a common theme for us against lower table teams who sit very deep and don’t pressure the ball. We lack creativity in midfield and movement up front. We do not counter attack with pace when we get the occasional chance to do that against that type of team

Not sure how you can say we lack creativity in midfield with Swift and Ejaria.

I don't think I've missed the point at all. Our performance against Hull is easily explained by fatigue.

Stoke, Barnsley and Birmingham are really the only disappointing results we've had against more limited teams and two of them were away. Maybe include Cardiff, but that's another away. And we only lost one of them. QPR were high flying when we played then, plus away.


I’d argue most of the teams we’ve played have been limited. The standard this season is pretty average.



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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Snowball » 16 Feb 2020 13:24

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WestYorksRoyal It's about movement as a team and creating opportunities for our creative players. Case in point yesterday; no Ejaria assist without the Meite run.


Well quite.


True, must be a training ground run

But the pass would have picked out Puscas, who was clever to leave it.

Maybe the pass was to Puscas, meant to be flicked on?

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Snowball » 16 Feb 2020 13:27

WestYorksRoyal It's about movement as a team and creating opportunities for our creative players. Case in point yesterday; no Ejaria assist without the Meite run.



I've watched that on. Peculiar. The pass looks slow and as if defenders "should have" cut it out.

I think, except[t on some breaks, we play a little bit too slowly.

That means more defenders better placed and spaced.

Perhaps if we were a little quicker it would be easier to make a killer pass?

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Snowflake Royal » 16 Feb 2020 13:36

That was Swift's problem last season and Ejaria's this. Too many little touches, playing slow and watching for a big error to exploit or trying to force one where there's no room for it to come off.

There's really no reason for anyone to be trying to take on 3+ players, do 3 step overs or turn inside, outside inside again.

95% of the time it should be make your bit of space and exploit it, or if it doesn't happen move on and release the ball to someone else.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Derbyshire Royal » 16 Feb 2020 15:21

How big was the traveling support? We made loads more noise then the Wednesday 'massive'.

Can't wait to see them at work on Monday.


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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Derbyshire Royal » 16 Feb 2020 16:04

The Wednesday fans that is.......

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Lower West » 16 Feb 2020 16:13

Derbyshire Royal How big was the traveling support? We made loads more noise then the Wednesday 'massive'.

Can't wait to see them at work on Monday.


5 Star coaches.

Seating was unreserved so difficult to tell. As people were spread around.

Fair to say that Wednesday never really got going. Little to lift the crowd.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by URZZZZ » 16 Feb 2020 16:17

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WestYorksRoyal It's about movement as a team and creating opportunities for our creative players. Case in point yesterday; no Ejaria assist without the Meite run.



I've watched that on. Peculiar. The pass looks slow and as if defenders "should have" cut it out.

I think, except[t on some breaks, we play a little bit too slowly.

That means more defenders better placed and spaced.

Perhaps if we were a little quicker it would be easier to make a killer pass?


We had one break from one of their corners, think it was a 3 on 1 situation but the passes from both Ejaria and Olise were poor and it came to nothing

We seem to have a habit of passing into players’ feet rather than into the space in front of them. When the receiver is bursting forward, it kills the momentum generated when they have to constantly check back to control the ball, rather than take it in their stride

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Kitsondinho » 16 Feb 2020 16:40

Derbyshire Royal How big was the traveling support? We made loads more noise then the Wednesday 'massive'.

Can't wait to see them at work on Monday.

Amen to this!!! All the Wednesday massive I work with, am friends with or live next to, have gone to ground today.....strange!!! :lol:


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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 16 Feb 2020 16:40

The ref was quite possibly the smallest adult human ever to have lived. Certainly in my lifetime anyway.

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Old Man Andrews » 16 Feb 2020 16:54

2 world wars, 1 world cup The ref was quite possibly the smallest adult human ever to have lived. Certainly in my lifetime anyway.


He isn't small he's "fun size".

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Singing Defective » 16 Feb 2020 17:08

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I still see negative comments after a 3-0 away win, sometimes I despair. we lose and its Bowen out, we win by 3 goals and its not convincing enough,
F*ck I love football fans !!!


Wasn’t at game, apologies for posting on here: Yeah, but, despite my son loving Monk for deploying his medical team on our behalf previously, they weren’t exactly sh!t hot on home ground. And why the oxf*rd couldn’t we deploy today’s team last Wednesday, when we looked like Aldershot against WBA?


So you're asking why we looked worse against top of the league than compared to against a midtable team in free fall?


That :) and why neither Wendies nor us have any semblance of “home advantage”..

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by 2 world wars, 1 world cup » 16 Feb 2020 17:14

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2 world wars, 1 world cup The ref was quite possibly the smallest adult human ever to have lived. Certainly in my lifetime anyway.


He isn't small he's "fun size".


:)

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by Zammo » 20 Feb 2020 11:29

Just about recovered from Saturday. Top top day.

Good to see so many old faces in The Globe, Sheffield. Drank far too much, won 3nil away, rode a tram, sat with Dellor and Gooding on the way back and ended up on Radio Berkshire. Uuuuuurrrzzzz !

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Re: BFTG Wednesday (A)

by John Smith » 20 Feb 2020 14:26

Zammo Just about recovered from Saturday. Top top day.

Good to see so many old faces in The Globe, Sheffield. Drank far too much, won 3nil away, rode a tram, sat with Dellor and Gooding on the way back and ended up on Radio Berkshire. Uuuuuurrrzzzz !

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