SCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
Definitely strayed offside during the build up.
by Zip » 28 Feb 2021 10:17
SCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
by Royals and Racers » 28 Feb 2021 10:24
SCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
by Stranded » 28 Feb 2021 11:38
Royals and RacersSCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
I thought exactly the same at the time, but can`t find a replay to confirm.
Edit just seen it on ifollow highlights- he was in an offside position when the ball was kicked but it came off a Royals player, so not sure how that effects it ?
by Franchise FC » 28 Feb 2021 11:56
StrandedRoyals and RacersSCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
I thought exactly the same at the time, but can`t find a replay to confirm.
Edit just seen it on ifollow highlights- he was in an offside position when the ball was kicked but it came off a Royals player, so not sure how that effects it ?
If he was offside when the ball was kicked by a teammate then it coming off a defender now has no impact and he is off.
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Feb 2021 12:00
by SCIAG » 28 Feb 2021 12:12
StrandedRoyals and RacersSCIAG Was the exceptional goal that Rotherham scored at the start of the second half offside? It looked good to me, but the angle wasn’t great.
I thought exactly the same at the time, but can`t find a replay to confirm.
Edit just seen it on ifollow highlights- he was in an offside position when the ball was kicked but it came off a Royals player, so not sure how that effects it ?
If he was offside when the ball was kicked by a teammate then it coming off a defender now has no impact and he is off.
by Nameless » 28 Feb 2021 12:15
ZipRoyals and RacersNameless
A freeze frame showing someone ‘just’ offside is IMHO far from ‘getting away with one’. Decisions should be made in real time, by eye. The game is fast descending into farce because people think it is a suitable sport to break down to millimetres and fractions of seconds.
What !!!! it shows the assistant wasn`t doing his job properly. We have had others that have gone against us, so it does even out over time but Morrison was offside.
100% agreed. If he’s offside by small margins he is still offside. Junior is very sharp on such things and called it straight away. I was surprised the Rotherham commentary team didn’t question it.
by Royals and Racers » 28 Feb 2021 12:22
NamelessZipRoyals and Racers What !!!! it shows the assistant wasn`t doing his job properly. We have had others that have gone against us, so it does even out over time but Morrison was offside.
100% agreed. If he’s offside by small margins he is still offside. Junior is very sharp on such things and called it straight away. I was surprised the Rotherham commentary team didn’t question it.
There is a huge difference between being offside in w y which it is reasonable for. Human to detect in real,time and being offside in a way which requires freeze frames, millimetre perfect poitioning of lines and analysing to individual frames. Someone claiming Morrison was definitely offside based on still image not taken in line with the last defender doesn’t equate to a linesman failing to do his job. We’ve made officiating almost impossible by imposing crazy levels of ‘accuracy’ which are unnecessary. Of course if someone is fractionally offside they are technically offside but my belief is allowing officials to call things by eye and allowing a sensible degree of tolerance makes for a better game. Offside should be about preventing a player gain8ng an unfair advantage and your toe being a millimetre beyond a defender does not do that.
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Feb 2021 14:30
NamelessZipRoyals and Racers What !!!! it shows the assistant wasn`t doing his job properly. We have had others that have gone against us, so it does even out over time but Morrison was offside.
100% agreed. If he’s offside by small margins he is still offside. Junior is very sharp on such things and called it straight away. I was surprised the Rotherham commentary team didn’t question it.
There is a huge difference between being offside in w y which it is reasonable for. Human to detect in real,time and being offside in a way which requires freeze frames, millimetre perfect poitioning of lines and analysing to individual frames. Someone claiming Morrison was definitely offside based on still image not taken in line with the last defender doesn’t equate to a linesman failing to do his job. We’ve made officiating almost impossible by imposing crazy levels of ‘accuracy’ which are unnecessary. Of course if someone is fractionally offside they are technically offside but my belief is allowing officials to call things by eye and allowing a sensible degree of tolerance makes for a better game. Offside should be about preventing a player gain8ng an unfair advantage and your toe being a millimetre beyond a defender does not do that.
by bcubed » 28 Feb 2021 15:14
NamelessZipRoyals and Racers What !!!! it shows the assistant wasn`t doing his job properly. We have had others that have gone against us, so it does even out over time but Morrison was offside.
100% agreed. If he’s offside by small margins he is still offside. Junior is very sharp on such things and called it straight away. I was surprised the Rotherham commentary team didn’t question it.
There is a huge difference between being offside in w y which it is reasonable for. Human to detect in real,time and being offside in a way which requires freeze frames, millimetre perfect poitioning of lines and analysing to individual frames. Someone claiming Morrison was definitely offside based on still image not taken in line with the last defender doesn’t equate to a linesman failing to do his job. We’ve made officiating almost impossible by imposing crazy levels of ‘accuracy’ which are unnecessary. Of course if someone is fractionally offside they are technically offside but my belief is allowing officials to call things by eye and allowing a sensible degree of tolerance makes for a better game. Offside should be about preventing a player gain8ng an unfair advantage and your toe being a millimetre beyond a defender does not do that.
by Snowflake Royal » 28 Feb 2021 16:32
bcubedNamelessZip
100% agreed. If he’s offside by small margins he is still offside. Junior is very sharp on such things and called it straight away. I was surprised the Rotherham commentary team didn’t question it.
There is a huge difference between being offside in w y which it is reasonable for. Human to detect in real,time and being offside in a way which requires freeze frames, millimetre perfect poitioning of lines and analysing to individual frames. Someone claiming Morrison was definitely offside based on still image not taken in line with the last defender doesn’t equate to a linesman failing to do his job. We’ve made officiating almost impossible by imposing crazy levels of ‘accuracy’ which are unnecessary. Of course if someone is fractionally offside they are technically offside but my belief is allowing officials to call things by eye and allowing a sensible degree of tolerance makes for a better game. Offside should be about preventing a player gain8ng an unfair advantage and your toe being a millimetre beyond a defender does not do that.
Totally agree with the sentiment although really not sure of the answer.
Certainly the balance needs changing. We want to see more goals so why not give benefit of the doubt to the attacker? Perhaps it should require a clear gap between the attacking player and the last defender before it counts as offside?
by bcubed » 28 Feb 2021 16:49
Snowflake RoyalbcubedNameless
There is a huge difference between being offside in w y which it is reasonable for. Human to detect in real,time and being offside in a way which requires freeze frames, millimetre perfect poitioning of lines and analysing to individual frames. Someone claiming Morrison was definitely offside based on still image not taken in line with the last defender doesn’t equate to a linesman failing to do his job. We’ve made officiating almost impossible by imposing crazy levels of ‘accuracy’ which are unnecessary. Of course if someone is fractionally offside they are technically offside but my belief is allowing officials to call things by eye and allowing a sensible degree of tolerance makes for a better game. Offside should be about preventing a player gain8ng an unfair advantage and your toe being a millimetre beyond a defender does not do that.
Totally agree with the sentiment although really not sure of the answer.
Certainly the balance needs changing. We want to see more goals so why not give benefit of the doubt to the attacker? Perhaps it should require a clear gap between the attacking player and the last defender before it counts as offside?
Won't work with vAR because you'll continue to get mm decisions on whether it's a clear gap and that gives the attacker the ability to stretch a toe out backwards to stay inside and gain about3 / 4 ft on now
by Franchise FC » 28 Feb 2021 20:26
by Franchise FC » 28 Feb 2021 20:30
by URZZZZ » 01 Mar 2021 09:38
ZipURZZZZSnowflake Royal Me. It doesn't show signs of any lessons being learnt or significant improvements.
Lessons being learnt from what? We last dropped points from a winning position against Millwall where the general consensus was that his subs were too “attacking”, I.e bringing off a defensive “RB” for a more attacking one. Surely, in terms of bringing on more defensive players off the bench this time and us holding on, it worked to an extent?
Result was the main thing anyway. With wins comes momentum , which brings about better decisions on/off the pitch by both the team and the staff. Our team as a whole didn’t win anywhere near enough games 1-0 for a long period so it’s a pleasing change we can grind out these victories that have been so lacking for so long and are indicative of a promotion winning team
Can’t afford to waste this win though over the next few games
Apart from not bringing on Puscas for Joao the subs were better yesterday. TMac was excellent when he came on and was very unlucky to be dropped in the first place.
Pauno is still very reluctant to make changes when things are not going well though.
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