Injury watch 2021/22

[Snowflake Royal]

My bad, haven`t checked this thread in a while, very happy to keep you entertained.

Tbf, I wouldn't read me zip or hendo either.

[Zip]

James Earnshaw on Twitter day Swift will be “lucky” to be available for Luton. Odd given he was touch and go for yesterday.

[Hound]

Yeah thought he was likely back for Monday before

Tbh take everything ince says on injuries as nonsense tbh. Seems to make it up as he goes

[Royal_jimmy]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

[Hendo]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

Possibly, but professional footballers should know how much they need to stretch before a game/training.

[Whore Jackie]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

Possibly, but professional footballers should know how much they need to stretch before a game/training.

45 minutes before training and 45 minutes after, when Ince was at Inter.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

Possibly, but professional footballers should know how much they need to stretch before a game/training.

Just out of curiosity (as there has been a big media focus this week on staff, or lack of), do we actually have any sports scientists in the first team squad? Or does anyone know how "big" that department is?

[Sutekh]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

Possibly, but professional footballers should know how much they need to stretch before a game/training.

Just out of curiosity (as there has been a big media focus this week on staff, or lack of), do we actually have any sports scientists in the first team squad? Or does anyone know how "big" that department is?

Can’t even check that by referring to the club’s team photo this season

[Whore Jackie]

Josh Bowen, Mark's son, is Head of Sports Science. Matt Hirons is Head Physio, he's been here ages. Academy have similar, guess the whole department is 7–8?

https://www.readingfc.co.uk/club/whos-who

[YorkshireRoyal99]

So, in other words, we've only actually got a Head of Sports Science and Head Physio? Is that really enough to look after a 25-ish man first team squad as well as the academy players as well?

I don't know what other clubs have, it just seems we made a significant cut in our playing staff last season as well, being understaffed, if that's the case, might be a factor for both Ince and Pauno this season on the injury front.

Something else that needs addressing drastically going into next season, if that's the case.

[kevan]

On the other hand 6 or 7 professionals should surely have spotted something as simple as stretching, they have known there was a problem all season

[Nameless]

So, in other words, we've only actually got a Head of Sports Science and Head Physio? Is that really enough to look after a 25-ish man first team squad as well as the academy players as well?

I don't know what other clubs have, it just seems we made a significant cut in our playing staff last season as well, being understaffed, if that's the case, might be a factor for both Ince and Pauno this season on the injury front.

Something else that needs addressing drastically going into next season, if that's the case.

You are only correct if you ignore the bit about there being 6 or 7 in the department....

[YorkshireRoyal99]

So, in other words, we've only actually got a Head of Sports Science and Head Physio? Is that really enough to look after a 25-ish man first team squad as well as the academy players as well?

I don't know what other clubs have, it just seems we made a significant cut in our playing staff last season as well, being understaffed, if that's the case, might be a factor for both Ince and Pauno this season on the injury front.

Something else that needs addressing drastically going into next season, if that's the case.

You are only correct if you ignore the bit about there being 6 or 7 in the department....

Obviously the U23 and U18 staff won't be dealing with the first team affairs though will they.

In terms of the first team squad, we are talking about 2 people to manage a 25 man squad. Unless the U23 and U18 staff do have an input on the first team, which also doesn't really help the situation overall at the club either.

Also, I can only see 3 members of staff with a Sports Science, Medicine or Physiotherapy title as their job roles. Who are the other 3 or 4 people in this role?

[Hound]

Ince admits why we may have so many injuries.

We don't stretch enough. Clearly that's from bad coaching.

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/foot ... m-23814660

Possibly, but professional footballers should know how much they need to stretch before a game/training.

Tbf that’s just Ince speculating. Not saying he isn’t right, but it’s not a fully informed comment about the stretching

Definitely can’t have another season like this one next year with the injuries though. It’s been absolutely ridiculous

[Nameless]

So, in other words, we've only actually got a Head of Sports Science and Head Physio? Is that really enough to look after a 25-ish man first team squad as well as the academy players as well?

I don't know what other clubs have, it just seems we made a significant cut in our playing staff last season as well, being understaffed, if that's the case, might be a factor for both Ince and Pauno this season on the injury front.

Something else that needs addressing drastically going into next season, if that's the case.

You are only correct if you ignore the bit about there being 6 or 7 in the department....

Obviously the U23 and U18 staff won't be dealing with the first team affairs though will they.

In terms of the first team squad, we are talking about 2 people to manage a 25 man squad. Unless the U23 and U18 staff do have an input on the first team, which also doesn't really help the situation overall at the club either.

Also, I can only see 3 members of staff with a Sports Science, Medicine or Physiotherapy title as their job roles. Who are the other 3 or 4 people in this role?

They’ll deploy staff as necessary. If a first teamer needs treatment they’ll get it ahead of an academy player (clinical needs allowing).
We’ve done it with coaching staff this season can’t see an academy physio looking at Swift and saying ‘sorry mate, I know your calf is a bit sore but I only do the kids and what if one of them needs me ?’

[YorkshireRoyal99]

You are only correct if you ignore the bit about there being 6 or 7 in the department....

Obviously the U23 and U18 staff won't be dealing with the first team affairs though will they.

In terms of the first team squad, we are talking about 2 people to manage a 25 man squad. Unless the U23 and U18 staff do have an input on the first team, which also doesn't really help the situation overall at the club either.

Also, I can only see 3 members of staff with a Sports Science, Medicine or Physiotherapy title as their job roles. Who are the other 3 or 4 people in this role?

They’ll deploy staff as necessary. If a first teamer needs treatment they’ll get it ahead of an academy player (clinical needs allowing).
We’ve done it with coaching staff this season can’t see an academy physio looking at Swift and saying ‘sorry mate, I know your calf is a bit sore but I only do the kids and what if one of them needs me ?’

Yeah true but in terms of looking at injury prevention, strength and conditioning, it just seems difficult to see 3 members of staff in total (as far as I can see anyway) manage the first team squad, U23's and U18's as well.

I think we can all agree that it does need to improve and we could probably benefit from potentially doubling the number of staff we have in this area across the first team and academy, so having something such as 6 in total. That's just a complete guess, I don't know how many other clubs employ across the first team and academy.

[Nameless]

Obviously the U23 and U18 staff won't be dealing with the first team affairs though will they.

In terms of the first team squad, we are talking about 2 people to manage a 25 man squad. Unless the U23 and U18 staff do have an input on the first team, which also doesn't really help the situation overall at the club either.

Also, I can only see 3 members of staff with a Sports Science, Medicine or Physiotherapy title as their job roles. Who are the other 3 or 4 people in this role?

They’ll deploy staff as necessary. If a first teamer needs treatment they’ll get it ahead of an academy player (clinical needs allowing).
We’ve done it with coaching staff this season can’t see an academy physio looking at Swift and saying ‘sorry mate, I know your calf is a bit sore but I only do the kids and what if one of them needs me ?’

Yeah true but in terms of looking at injury prevention, strength and conditioning, it just seems difficult to see 3 members of staff in total (as far as I can see anyway) manage the first team squad, U23's and U18's as well.

I think we can all agree that it does need to improve and we could probably benefit from potentially doubling the number of staff we have in this area across the first team and academy, so having something such as 6 in total. That's just a complete guess, I don't know how many other clubs employ across the first team and academy.

Doubling the number of staff to take it to what we have now ?
The listing on the club website is not a complete listing of every member of staff !,,,,,
Obvious example - it lists the kit manager but we have an assistant kit manager
It lists the Ticket office manager but we have ticket office staff too.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

They’ll deploy staff as necessary. If a first teamer needs treatment they’ll get it ahead of an academy player (clinical needs allowing).
We’ve done it with coaching staff this season can’t see an academy physio looking at Swift and saying ‘sorry mate, I know your calf is a bit sore but I only do the kids and what if one of them needs me ?’

Yeah true but in terms of looking at injury prevention, strength and conditioning, it just seems difficult to see 3 members of staff in total (as far as I can see anyway) manage the first team squad, U23's and U18's as well.

I think we can all agree that it does need to improve and we could probably benefit from potentially doubling the number of staff we have in this area across the first team and academy, so having something such as 6 in total. That's just a complete guess, I don't know how many other clubs employ across the first team and academy.

Doubling the number of staff to take it to what we have now ?
The listing on the club website is not a complete listing of every member of staff !,,,,,
Obvious example - it lists the kit manager but we have an assistant kit manager
It lists the Ticket office manager but we have ticket office staff too.

Going back to my original point then, who are they and how many do we have? It just seems like we are guessing.

I only raised the question as we seemed to have significantly cut down our playing staff from last season.

[Nameless]

Yeah true but in terms of looking at injury prevention, strength and conditioning, it just seems difficult to see 3 members of staff in total (as far as I can see anyway) manage the first team squad, U23's and U18's as well.

I think we can all agree that it does need to improve and we could probably benefit from potentially doubling the number of staff we have in this area across the first team and academy, so having something such as 6 in total. That's just a complete guess, I don't know how many other clubs employ across the first team and academy.

Doubling the number of staff to take it to what we have now ?
The listing on the club website is not a complete listing of every member of staff !,,,,,
Obvious example - it lists the kit manager but we have an assistant kit manager
It lists the Ticket office manager but we have ticket office staff too.

Going back to my original point then, who are they and how many do we have? It just seems like we are guessing.

I only raised the question as we seemed to have significantly cut down our playing staff from last season.

The club don’t provide a list of all the staff they employ.
They quite possibly outsource some of the work anyway as need will vary.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Doubling the number of staff to take it to what we have now ?
The listing on the club website is not a complete listing of every member of staff !,,,,,
Obvious example - it lists the kit manager but we have an assistant kit manager
It lists the Ticket office manager but we have ticket office staff too.

Going back to my original point then, who are they and how many do we have? It just seems like we are guessing.

I only raised the question as we seemed to have significantly cut down our playing staff from last season.

The club don’t provide a list of all the staff they employ.
They quite possibly outsource some of the work anyway as need will vary.

Possibly. It just seems as if a potential staffing shortage in that area could be a factor to our injury record this season. Granted, I haven't heard/seen anyone at the club mention anything on it either.