Simon's Church Not convinced by any combination of Mcintyre, Holmes, Dann and Morrison tbh, any one of them alongside a fully fit Liam Moore (c) would do a decent job though.
They didn’t last year
by Hound » 11 May 2022 15:45
Simon's Church Not convinced by any combination of Mcintyre, Holmes, Dann and Morrison tbh, any one of them alongside a fully fit Liam Moore (c) would do a decent job though.
by Snowflake Royal » 11 May 2022 17:39
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please no, he's nowhere near good enough now, he's been great for us and can't help getting old. but we need to let him go.
He's better than Dann. Reckon he'd be fine alongside someone with pace with some midfield protection
What do you base that on? Dann didn't seem to do anything wrong last season but had horrific luck with injuries, before he joined us he was on the back of 7.5 seasons in the Premier League, Morrison meanwhile has never played in the Premier League.
Unless the injuries have set him back massively, which considering his age, is possible, he would otherwise be our best centre back.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 12 May 2022 08:45
by Hendo » 12 May 2022 08:48
YorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
by Simon's Church » 12 May 2022 10:07
HoundSimon's Church Not convinced by any combination of Mcintyre, Holmes, Dann and Morrison tbh, any one of them alongside a fully fit Liam Moore (c) would do a decent job though.
They didn’t last year
by Coppells Lost Coat » 12 May 2022 10:29
HendoYorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
by Hendo » 12 May 2022 10:34
Coppells Lost CoatHendoYorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
They could be Xavi on the ball but if they have a turning circle of a barge and the pace of steam roller they would be awful in defence as a whole. A CB ability should be on how they tackle and stop the opposition. Not if they can Cruyff turn nicely, personally i would rather we concentrate on our midfielders to have that technical ability.
Us playing out from the back this season was painful, slow and laborious not because our cb couldn't pass, it was the lack of options ahead of them and other teams sussed it.
by morganb » 12 May 2022 10:53
by tidus_mi2 » 12 May 2022 11:44
by NathStPaul » 12 May 2022 11:45
by Hound » 12 May 2022 11:48
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 12 May 2022 12:45
Coppells Lost CoatHendoYorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
They could be Xavi on the ball but if they have a turning circle of a barge and the pace of steam roller they would be awful in defence as a whole. A CB ability should be on how they tackle and stop the opposition. Not if they can Cruyff turn nicely, personally i would rather we concentrate on our midfielders to have that technical ability.
Us playing out from the back this season was painful, slow and laborious not because our cb couldn't pass, it was the lack of options ahead of them and other teams sussed it.
by Snowflake Royal » 12 May 2022 12:58
HendoYorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
by Snowflake Royal » 12 May 2022 13:00
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+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
They could be Xavi on the ball but if they have a turning circle of a barge and the pace of steam roller they would be awful in defence as a whole. A CB ability should be on how they tackle and stop the opposition. Not if they can Cruyff turn nicely, personally i would rather we concentrate on our midfielders to have that technical ability.
Us playing out from the back this season was painful, slow and laborious not because our cb couldn't pass, it was the lack of options ahead of them and other teams sussed it.
No one is asking them to Cruyff turn on the ball. I just want them to be able to make a 10 yard pass without it looking like they've never seen a football before.
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 12 May 2022 13:33
Snowflake RoyalHendoYorkshireRoyal99 I care about our CB's being able to play with the ball, I believe it's crucial in the modern game these days and it's where a large proportion of our attacks may start from. If our CB's aren't comfortable on the ball, it could spell trouble for the rest of the team, depending on how we want to play next season. Dann is by far the most comfortable at that out of the lot I'd say.
+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
oxf*rd that. Let em come and get it straight into midfield or over the top into space.
Stop fartarsing about with CBs who you want to be Pirlo and there's not much to press.
Short goal kicks are an abomination
by URZZZZ » 12 May 2022 13:40
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+1, teams are less likely to press highly if they know both CBs (or all defenders for that matter) are decent on the ball. The high press works so well against us, or has done in the past, because they know they're not great on the ball.
oxf*rd that. Let em come and get it straight into midfield or over the top into space.
Stop fartarsing about with CBs who you want to be Pirlo and there's not much to press.
Short goal kicks are an abomination
They don't have to be Pirlo. There won't be much to press if our defenders aren't good on the ball and are not capable. It's all about beating the initial press, working overloads etc. That's partly why defenders get brought into the game to play.
by Hound » 12 May 2022 13:47
URZZZZYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal oxf*rd that. Let em come and get it straight into midfield or over the top into space.
Stop fartarsing about with CBs who you want to be Pirlo and there's not much to press.
Short goal kicks are an abomination
They don't have to be Pirlo. There won't be much to press if our defenders aren't good on the ball and are not capable. It's all about beating the initial press, working overloads etc. That's partly why defenders get brought into the game to play.
Then again, you could also argue our best teams haven’t had ball playing defenders in the slightest. Pearce, Gorkss, Sonko etc etc
Appreciate the game has somewhat evolved since then but really don’t think it’s that important. A good manager will choose a style based on the personnel and not the other way around
by URZZZZ » 12 May 2022 13:50
HoundURZZZZYorkshireRoyal99
They don't have to be Pirlo. There won't be much to press if our defenders aren't good on the ball and are not capable. It's all about beating the initial press, working overloads etc. That's partly why defenders get brought into the game to play.
Then again, you could also argue our best teams haven’t had ball playing defenders in the slightest. Pearce, Gorkss, Sonko etc etc
Appreciate the game has somewhat evolved since then but really don’t think it’s that important. A good manager will choose a style based on the personnel and not the other way around
Have to take into account all the personnel in the team, not just the CBs. Not sure kicking long, having big brutes at the back works too well if you have the midfield of Swift, Ejaria and co
Mind you in saying that, the passing from the back didn’t exactly work with that bunch either
by Coppells Lost Coat » 12 May 2022 13:55
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 12 May 2022 14:01
URZZZZYorkshireRoyal99Snowflake Royal oxf*rd that. Let em come and get it straight into midfield or over the top into space.
Stop fartarsing about with CBs who you want to be Pirlo and there's not much to press.
Short goal kicks are an abomination
They don't have to be Pirlo. There won't be much to press if our defenders aren't good on the ball and are not capable. It's all about beating the initial press, working overloads etc. That's partly why defenders get brought into the game to play.
Then again, you could also argue our best teams haven’t had ball playing defenders in the slightest. Pearce, Gorkss, Sonko etc etc
Appreciate the game has somewhat evolved since then but really don’t think it’s that important. A good manager will choose a style based on the personnel and not the other way around
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