by Dixie Norm » 14 Jan 2022 09:42
by Coppells Lost Coat » 14 Jan 2022 10:09
72 busCoppells Lost CoatHound
well he came on for 30 mins against Derby.
And the original question was ' a few minutes of gameplay'. So yes fits the description pretty well.
And to add - Clarke has done naff all in his cameo appearances to suggest he is the answer to our injury crisis.
Apart from scoring twice in one game.
Clarke 10 Apps 2 Goals
Puskás 21 Apps 0 goals
by Hound » 14 Jan 2022 10:13
Millsy My ‘inside knowledge’ prompting this has NOTHING to do with Pauno as the problem predates him, but undeniably it’s much worse now. Worse than I ever imagined when originally moaning about it so it’s clearly several things going on.
I’m seeing a picture here that marries up a few factors…
Pauno has had bursts of phenomenal team form and Both these bursts have been early on: last season it was at the beginning. This season it’s when he got a bunch of new players in.
Given the alleged concerns that he overtrains his players from Chicago fans (I’ve yet to see this tbh but trust those who have) it’s all fitting together:
It explains decent form when relatively fresh and then mayhem as players get injured, especially coupled with an already unfit-for-purpose setup who weren’t expecting it. It explains players being utterly destroyed end of second half thus 3 late capitulations thus far.
Was it under Bowen where we were the opposite and were scoring many at the end of the game, heroic comebacks and wins, and that was put down to decent fitness?
I think/know our setup has been shite. But highly suspect Pauno’s and his coaches aren’t helping at all.
Is he a one trick pony with a game plan and motivation boost that works well if everyone has infinite fitness levels? But has no plan B, no tactical nous mid game etc etc in that case what do you do? Keep trying to do what you’re good at. Force whomever is left fit to do wonders..until they then get injured. Maybe, but it shouldn’t detract from a problem that predates him. He’s not the only problem here, it’s just highlighting our underlying issues.
Still, I’m sure many will still believe the line that it’s coincidence, impact injuries, no worse than usual etc…
by Coppells Lost Coat » 14 Jan 2022 10:16
ZipHoundCoppells Lost Coat Fatigue is a big factor with getting injuries too. With the injury list piling up players aren't really getting much rotation.
So the cycle continues, the squad just keep playing until some one gets back from injury or they get injured themselves due to not having the rest.
Maybe the training methods have not been adapted to suit our insane injury list. VP doesn't want to risk players in training / push them hard in fear of losing a player. Last thing we need right now is a bloody training injury. Which then means they wont get 'match fit' = play with fatigue = gets injured.
tbf they've just had 3 weeks off, and within 2 games we lost Araruna - but more tellingly Dann (after 5 mins), AH (after 60+40mins) and Azeez . Don't think can blame fatigue for any of those seeming muscle injuries
We lost Tetek too. Five players in two games.
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Jan 2022 11:30
by YorkshireRoyal99 » 14 Jan 2022 12:22
by TiagoIlori » 14 Jan 2022 14:46
by Millsy » 14 Jan 2022 15:11
Snowflake Royal Millsy, could you stop being a tease and either nut up or shut up on your insider information.
You're telling us nothing. It's more like it's just a way for you to boast.
Tell us what the deal is, or stop alluding to it all the time
by Hound » 14 Jan 2022 15:19
TiagoIlori Lucas Joao is travelling with the squad for the game tomorrow despite not even playing for the U23s yet. Think if he gets injured again that’s fully on Pauno.
by Forbury Lion » 14 Jan 2022 16:24
Perhaps it's the manager/coaches and their training styles which are the issue, are they overworking the players bodies in training?, are they not giving the players enough recovery time?, are they not getting them fit enough? or are they ignoring the advice of the medical team?WestYorksRoyal So yes, our medical team does not appear as good as it once was, in fact it seems pretty shit.
by Hound » 14 Jan 2022 18:29
HoundTiagoIlori Lucas Joao is travelling with the squad for the game tomorrow despite not even playing for the U23s yet. Think if he gets injured again that’s fully on Pauno.
tbh it doesn't seem a 'thing' to get games with the u23 to get fit nowadays. Not sure if other teams do it, but can only remember Araruna doing it for about 45m with us recently
by Stranded » 14 Jan 2022 18:34
HoundHoundTiagoIlori Lucas Joao is travelling with the squad for the game tomorrow despite not even playing for the U23s yet. Think if he gets injured again that’s fully on Pauno.
tbh it doesn't seem a 'thing' to get games with the u23 to get fit nowadays. Not sure if other teams do it, but can only remember Araruna doing it for about 45m with us recently
Shows what I know
Morrison back captaining the u23 tonight
by tidus_mi2 » 14 Jan 2022 18:34
by Zip » 14 Jan 2022 18:37
tidus_mi2 Will be good if we can get Morro back asap, need an experienced head in defence with what little options we have back there right now, depending on the length of Dann's injury of course.
by TiagoIlori » 15 Jan 2022 14:55
StrandedHoundHound
tbh it doesn't seem a 'thing' to get games with the u23 to get fit nowadays. Not sure if other teams do it, but can only remember Araruna doing it for about 45m with us recently
Shows what I know
Morrison back captaining the u23 tonight
TBH I think giving Joao minutes in the u23 would be a mistake. He would be a target and if he broke down there then the grief would be off the scale.
Have him on the bench with an eye to 10 or 20 mins feels right.
With Morrison, CB is a better position to make an u23 comeback, plus I believe he has been working with the Academy during recovery.
Both are good news stories.
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