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Tablewatch

by Sutekh » 22 Oct 2022 17:26

After today’s games

Championship
Team P W D L F A GD Points

1 Queens Park Rangers 16 9 3 4 25 17 +8 30
2 Blackburn Rovers 17 10 0 7 22 18 +4 30
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3 Burnley 16 7 8 1 29 15 +14 29
4 Sheffield United 16 7 5 4 26 16 +10 26
5 Millwall 16 8 2 6 22 19 +3 26
6 Norwich City 16 7 4 5 23 18 +5 25
………………………………………………………………………………………………….
7 Reading 16 8 1 7 19 23 -4 25
8 Luton Town 15 6 6 3 20 14 +6 24
9 Swansea City 15 7 3 5 20 22 -2 24
10 Preston North End 17 5 7 5 11 14 -3 22
11 Rotherham United 15 5 6 4 18 17 +1 21
12 Bristol City 17 6 3 8 25 26 -1 21
13 Sunderland 16 5 5 6 21 20 +1 20
14 Birmingham City 16 5 5 6 16 15 +1 20
15 Watford 15 5 5 5 19 20 -1 20
16 Hull City 16 6 2 8 20 31 -11 20
17 Stoke City 16 5 4 7 17 20 -3 19
18 Blackpool 16 5 4 7 21 25 -4 19
19 Wigan Athletic 16 5 4 7 17 24 -7 19
20 Cardiff City 15 5 3 7 12 17 -5 18
21 Middlesbrough 16 4 5 7 19 21 -2 17
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22 Coventry City 13 4 4 5 12 14 -2 16
23 West Bromwich Albion 16 2 8 6 20 22 -2 14
24 Huddersfield Town 15 3 3 9 16 22 -6 12

Next games (to World Cup) - 3rd (a), 8th (a), 10th (h), 15th (a), 16th (a)

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Re: Tablewatch

by Hound » 22 Oct 2022 19:36

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Re: Tablewatch

by PieEater » 22 Oct 2022 19:41

So 9 points above relegation. Cool 8)

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Re: Tablewatch

by Brogue » 22 Oct 2022 19:47

Halfway to safety.

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Re: Tablewatch

by Royal_jimmy » 22 Oct 2022 20:13

PieEater So 9 points above relegation. Cool 8)


Feels underwhelming we're only 9 points above the relegation places considering we've won half our games


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Re: Tablewatch

by Royal_jimmy » 22 Oct 2022 20:14

I think 52 points might be needed for safety this year

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Re: Tablewatch

by Stranded » 22 Oct 2022 20:40

Royal_jimmy
PieEater So 9 points above relegation. Cool 8)


Feels underwhelming we're only 9 points above the relegation places considering we've won half our games


Nature of the league this season. We've lost more games than WBA.

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by Sutekh » 22 Oct 2022 21:30

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PieEater So 9 points above relegation. Cool 8)


Feels underwhelming we're only 9 points above the relegation places considering we've won half our games


Nature of the league this season. We've lost more games than WBA.


So have second place Blackburn !

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Re: Tablewatch

by Royal_jimmy » 22 Oct 2022 22:07

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PieEater So 9 points above relegation. Cool 8)


Feels underwhelming we're only 9 points above the relegation places considering we've won half our games


Nature of the league this season. We've lost more games than WBA.


Yup.

Does anyone have the league table after 16 games in 2012/13? When Leicester finished 6th with 68 points but Peterborough went down with 54


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Re: Tablewatch

by Snowflake Royal » 23 Oct 2022 10:32

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Feels underwhelming we're only 9 points above the relegation places considering we've won half our games


Nature of the league this season. We've lost more games than WBA.


Yup.

Does anyone have the league table after 16 games in 2012/13? When Leicester finished 6th with 68 points but Peterborough went down with 54
https://www.soccerstats.com/statsbymonth.asp?league=england2

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Re: Tablewatch

by Sutekh » 23 Oct 2022 15:27

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Nature of the league this season. We've lost more games than WBA.


Yup.

Does anyone have the league table after 16 games in 2012/13? When Leicester finished 6th with 68 points but Peterborough went down with 54
https://www.soccerstats.com/statsbymonth.asp?league=england2


From what I can make out, after 19 games in the Championship in season 2012/13 the table looked like this….

    Club - P - Pts
  1. Cardiff - 19 - 38
  2. Crystal Palace - 19 - 37
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  3. Middlesbrough - 19 - 33
  4. Leicester - 19 - 33
  5. Millwall - 19 - 32
  6. Hull City - 19 - 32
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  7. Brighton - 19 - 31
  8. Watford - 19 - 30
  9. Nottm Forest - 19 - 29
  10. Huddersfield - 19 - 28
  11. Blackburn - 19 - 28
  12. Charlton - 19 - 27
  13. Derby - 19 - 27
  14. Burnley - 19 - 27
  15. Leeds Utd - 19 - 26
  16. Bolton - 19 - 25
  17. Blackpool - 19 - 25
  18. Wolves - 19 - 22
  19. Birmingham - 19 - 21
  20. Barnsley - 19 - 17
  21. Ipswich - 19 - 17
    =======================
  22. Sheff Weds - 19 - 15
  23. Bristol City - 19 - 13
  24. Peterborough - 19 - 13

Promoted at end of season
PO Winners at end of season
Relegated at end of season

Barnsley finished in 21st place that season on 55 points 1 point clear of relegation.
Millwall totally collapsed from the play off places and finally finished 20th on 56 points
Blackburn, Sheff W and Huddersfield finished 17th, 18th and 19th all in 58 points
Middlesbrough also tumbled down and finished 16th on 59 points with Blackpool
Ipswich recovered quite well and amassed 60 points in 14th

At the top, Leicester got the final play off position on goal difference from Bolton. Both clubs had 68 points.
Hull finished 2nd with 79 points, Cardiff won the title with 87. Watford finished 3rd on 77 points.

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Re: Tablewatch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Oct 2022 08:55

8 points between 14th and the PO places shows a really tight league that season, the points gap was 13 last season, 17 the season before that and in 2019/20 it was 14. We could see something similar this season where the gap is less than 10 points between those 9 teams.

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Re: Tablewatch

by Sutekh » 18 Dec 2022 09:45

Sutekh After today’s games

Championship
Team P W D L F A GD Points

1 Queens Park Rangers 16 9 3 4 25 17 +8 30
2 Blackburn Rovers 17 10 0 7 22 18 +4 30
—————————————————————————————
3 Burnley 16 7 8 1 29 15 +14 29
4 Sheffield United 16 7 5 4 26 16 +10 26
5 Millwall 16 8 2 6 22 19 +3 26
6 Norwich City 16 7 4 5 23 18 +5 25
………………………………………………………………………………………………….
7 Reading 16 8 1 7 19 23 -4 25
8 Luton Town 15 6 6 3 20 14 +6 24
9 Swansea City 15 7 3 5 20 22 -2 24
10 Preston North End 17 5 7 5 11 14 -3 22
11 Rotherham United 15 5 6 4 18 17 +1 21
12 Bristol City 17 6 3 8 25 26 -1 21
13 Sunderland 16 5 5 6 21 20 +1 20
14 Birmingham City 16 5 5 6 16 15 +1 20
15 Watford 15 5 5 5 19 20 -1 20
16 Hull City 16 6 2 8 20 31 -11 20
17 Stoke City 16 5 4 7 17 20 -3 19
18 Blackpool 16 5 4 7 21 25 -4 19
19 Wigan Athletic 16 5 4 7 17 24 -7 19
20 Cardiff City 15 5 3 7 12 17 -5 18
21 Middlesbrough 16 4 5 7 19 21 -2 17
—————————————————————————————
22 Coventry City 13 4 4 5 12 14 -2 16
23 West Bromwich Albion 16 2 8 6 20 22 -2 14
24 Huddersfield Town 15 3 3 9 16 22 -6 12

Next games (to World Cup) - 3rd (a), 8th (a), 10th (h), 15th (a), 16th (a)


32 points now which means Reading have averaged a point a game from their last 7 matches. If that can be maintained for the rest of the season the club should survive.

Next 3 games though are home to Swansea (on the telly :( ), a Friday night :( visit to Norwich and a trip to the Black Country “revival” that is WBA but at least that one is a straight 3pm kick off unfettered by TV. 3 points from that lot would have to be seen as a real success.


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Re: Tablewatch

by windermereROYAL » 18 Dec 2022 10:09

We probably need just 5 wins from 23 games to be safe, that will give us 47pts, add 4 or 5 draws and that should be plenty

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by Franchise FC » 18 Dec 2022 10:40

windermereROYAL We probably need just 5 wins from 23 games to be safe, that will give us 47pts, add 4 or 5 draws and that should be plenty

It feels like there’s quite some concertina effect going on so I’m not so sure that 52 will be enough this year
Be very pleased if I’m wrong

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Re: Tablewatch

by 72 bus » 18 Dec 2022 19:01

Two points off the playoffs at this stage of the season and with a full squad back for the first time in two seasons and the bed wetter's are still worried about being relegated.

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by Franchise FC » 18 Dec 2022 20:31

72 bus Two points off the playoffs at this stage of the season and with a full squad back for the first time in two seasons and the bed wetter's are still worried about being relegated.

8 points clear of the bottom three in a much closer division than historically normal and with a very real possibility of losing a few players in January.
I could bury my head in the sand and just hope it all goes away

Whilst not causing a mattress issue, I reserve the right to maintain that anything above the bottom three will be. success

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Re: Tablewatch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 18 Dec 2022 21:26

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windermereROYAL We probably need just 5 wins from 23 games to be safe, that will give us 47pts, add 4 or 5 draws and that should be plenty

It feels like there’s quite some concertina effect going on so I’m not so sure that 52 will be enough this year
Be very pleased if I’m wrong


I don't think anyone in the bottom 3 come game 46 will have more than 50 points, so it should be enough.

Half a dozen more wins takes us there and I'm pretty confident we can get that. I think we will win 8 of our remaining 23 games, coupled together with 3/4 draws and that will be enough I think.

I don't think either of Rotherham or Huddersfield will get over 45 points and then it's going to be one from Blackpool, Wigan, Cardiff or Hull for me. Think Stoke and Bristol City will just about clamber away from any real danger.

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Re: Tablewatch

by SouthDownsRoyal » 28 Dec 2022 15:18

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Re: Tablewatch

by Sutekh » 30 Dec 2022 21:41

Now 10th, eleven points clear of Huddersfield in 22nd and a 12 goal deficit away from the play offs.

1 Burnley 25 15 8 2 26 53
2 Sheffield United 25 15 5 5 21 50
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3 Blackburn Rovers 25 13 0 12 -1 39
4 Sunderland 25 10 7 8 9 37
5 Watford 25 10 7 8 2 37
6 Middlesbrough 25 10 6 9 6 36
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7 Norwich City 25 10 6 9 4 36
8 Luton Town 24 9 9 6 4 36
9 Millwall 24 10 6 8 3 36
10 Reading 25 11 3 11 -6 36
11 West Bromwich Albion 25 9 8 8 7 35
12 Swansea City 25 9 8 8 1 35
13 Queens Park Rangers 25 10 5 10 -3 35
14 Coventry City 24 9 7 8 1 34
15 Preston North End 25 9 7 9 -3 34
16 Birmingham City 25 8 8 9 0 32
17 Stoke City 25 8 6 11 -5 30
18 Hull City 25 8 6 11 -13 30
19 Bristol City 25 7 7 11 -3 28
20 Cardiff City 25 7 7 11 -8 28
21 Rotherham United 25 6 9 10 -8 27
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22 Huddersfield Town 24 7 4 13 -7 25
23 Blackpool 25 6 7 12 -10 25
24 Wigan Athletic 25 6 6 13 -17 24

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